What does the American Conservative stand for anymore?

[Patine]

I think the meaning of "American Conservative" is changing. Based off of what I've read the vast majority of people who watch Fox News are retirement age. In other words, there are younger conservatives, but their likes and dislikes/lifestyles/points of view are very different than their baby boomer counterparts.

On the (younger) left you have the "social justice" people, reading and writing Buzzfeed articles, Tumblr blogs, etc.

The younger conservatives, likewise as mostly just countering the younger liberals/progressives, as the older left isn't even on their radar.

The younger left has "safe spaces" dedicated on college campuses and their humanities university lectures and the younger right has the same thing with Milo Yiannopoulos and Trump rallies except they use a different word for it other than "safe space".

If you say anything that the younger liberals deem to be racist/sexist/homophobic/transphobic/whatever, they will say you "triggered" them. Likewise, when a younger liberal mention being triggered, the younger conservatives will mock them for it. Trump particularly pisses off younger liberals, which is why younger conservatives enjoy him a lot more than Romney and McCain who were just generic GOPs and didn't say nearly as much over the top anti-social justice stuff as Trump does.

The MRA vs Feminism thing, for example, is a borderline non-factor with the older generation R's and D's. Same cannot be said for the under 35 crowd.

As the baby boomers die off politicians and mainstream news outlets will have to adjust to stay relevant to what the newer generation cares about.

It's too bad the people with brains in their heads, who think about issues and think before voting, and question their ideological leadership, and have practical, rational, workable ideas with any semblance of a future vision that's not a candy-coated, Willie-Wonka, fairy-tale, LSD-infused fantasy vision of highly unattainable proportions and complete lack of perspective, on both the Left- and Right-Wing of the Political Spectrum in the U.S., are dying out or becoming highly unpopular. The results going forward can, almost certainly, be nothing less than catastrophic.

 

[Berzerker]

converts are always the most zealous in any faith, why is that?

new found knowledge is exciting

 

[Hrothbern]

An article on Australian conservatives

"Modern conservatives don’t fear social change, they just oppose it when it undermines their friends"

Modern conservatives don’t fear technology, they oppose new technologies that harm their friends. Put simply: renewable energy is a threat to the mining industry, but robot trucks and trains will boost the profits of the mining industry.
Modern conservatives don’t fear social change. They oppose social change that undermines the power of institutions that they like, such as the church, and they embrace social change like the gig economy because it undermines the power of institutions they fear, like the unions.

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...st-oppose-it-when-it-undermines-their-friends

 

[Senethro]

https://twitter.com/NatAbortionFed/status/1144011714427596800?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

The American conservative stands for selective enforcement of unjust laws.

 

[Patine]

https://twitter.com/NatAbortionFed/status/1144011714427596800?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

The American conservative stands for selective enforcement of unjust laws.

Doesn't every political party, faction, and coalition who ever been in governance of a nation or otherwise in a position to enforce laws on their own term? How is this at all unique to any cohesive group whose ever held power meaningfully anywhere in the world and in history?

 

[Old Hippy]

https://twitter.com/NatAbortionFed/status/1144011714427596800?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

The American conservative stands for selective enforcement of unjust laws.

it would seem a pity that the unjust laws were not changed before Trump was elected... was that just an oversight?... just saying

 

[Broken_Erika]

it would seem a pity that the unjust laws were not changed before Trump was elected... was that just an oversight?... just saying

With the way the senate and house of representatives have been for the past decade, it's a miracle they got anything done. This is what happens when you only have two real parties for a country as large and diverse as the US....

 

[Berzerker]

2 parties? just one, the corporate party

 

[FriendlyFire]

2 parties? just one, the corporate party

That ship already sailed with Citizens United, Then came deregulation of Banks, Now Massive tax cuts
Republicans must shoulder the majority of the blame for opening the flood gates. God knows how much pain it will take to put the genie back into the bottle again.

 

[Broken_Erika]

Sorry dude. But the genie only goes one way. Out.

 

[FriendlyFire]

Sorry dude. But the genie only goes one way. Out.

An economic collapse and long recession will be necessary and painful lesson
Trump supporters need to personal feel the pain of urinating on the electrical fence again

 

[Hrothbern]

An economic collapse and long recession will be necessary and painful lesson
Trump supporters need to personal feel the pain of urinating on the electrical fence again

If those supporters, pain or not, are going to give their support to Trump in 2020...

he will continue to build walls around the US.

Meanwhile he is prepping to add Vietnam to his trade trophy list: https://www.theguardian.com/busines...ew-tariffs-and-suggests-vietnam-could-be-next

Back to the second half of the 19th century, when (higher) tariff walls were erected to deal with the imports of the superior efficiency and low prices of the UK manufacturing

 

[Patine]

An economic collapse and long recession will be necessary and painful lesson
Trump supporters need to personal feel the pain of urinating on the electrical fence again

Jumps and spikes in commodity prices from Trump's inexplicable, out-of-the-blue, and "pissing match" trade wars may grant that wish. And, may actually end up costing Trump re-election to boot, as all current statistics and odd of him winning against each Democratic primary opponent and against the Democrats as a whole are ALL predicated on a "good economy" going into the polls in 2020.

 

[Berzerker]

Back to the second half of the 19th century, when (higher) tariff walls were erected to deal with the imports of the superior efficiency and low prices of the UK manufacturing

South Carolinians weren't too happy about that

 

[Hrothbern]

South Carolinians weren't too happy about that

Was that about international trading tariffs ?

Or about national tariffs between states ?

AFAIK the US had at that time not yet a Single Market for the states.

 

[Estebonrober]

2 parties? just one, the corporate party

If only republicans who voted for Trump would realize they've been duped into voting for a different even worse form of that corporate party.

 

[Patine]

If only republicans who voted for Trump would realize they've been duped into voting for a different even worse form of that corporate party.

They lauded and praised him because he wasn't a career politician and "from the swamp." But he was, in fact, one of the ultra-wealthy, filthy rich, elite and tiny caste of Plutocrats who OWN the swamp and call all the shots therein through outright bribery, especially now that it's been made legal by the betrayal by the Supreme Court to the people, nation, and spirit of the Constitution called "Citizens' United."

 

[Broken_Erika]

He's everything they've always dreamed of, everything they've always wanted.....

 

[Berzerker]

Was that about international trading tariffs ?

Or about national tariffs between states ?

AFAIK the US had at that time not yet a Single Market for the states.

Federal tariffs favoring northern industry over southern ag production. Europe wanted southern crops and the south wanted European manufacturing and the north wanted to cut out Europe. SC threatened to secede back in the 1820s over tariffs, thats why Europe was more sympathetic to the South in spite of slavery.

 

[MagisterCultuum]

Of course, one of the first things that the Confederacy did was impose their own protectionist tariffs.