What is that violet-white civ on the mini map down there?

Menzies said:
Can you give a better reason for why they ended up with exactly the purple and cream you'd get off of wikipedia's "Venetian Flag"? The odds of hitting exactly those colours are slim to nil, we're taking lottery level odds here.
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Unless there happens to be some other flag out there, dubious or not, with the same colour combination. It would be vanishingly unlikely to pick them randomly, but if there already happens to be the same colour combination out there somewhere for some other civ/nation, then it's plausible.
 
The nagging feeling that bugs me is that cyan/gold (basically reverse Inca) are so obviously the most appropriate colours to use for Venice, and they're not taken by any other Civ. If Venice are in -as I still think they are - why would they use purple and white instead? The logical explanation is that they've also added someone else for whom blue and yellow is obvious - say Ukraine - but that means two more European Civs, not one, and also no Native American Civ. Which doesn't sound terribly likely either.

I would have expected the Sioux to be dark red/burgundy and white, as per this image, were it not for the fact that that's very close to England's colour scheme. Reverse England I find unlikely considering that there are already 3 Civs in BNW with white or cream as the main colour. I guess purple and white is possible, but it doesn't make me think 'Sioux' (although my memories of Civ II are faint at this point).
 
Everyone should remember that having the most appropriate colors is not necessarily a priority for the devs. They made China green instead of the iconic imperial and Chinese cultural colors of yellow and red, so there's that.


SamBC said:
Unless there happens to be some other flag out there, dubious or not, with the same colour combination. It would be vanishingly unlikely to pick them randomly, but if there already happens to be the same colour combination out there somewhere for some other civ/nation, then it's plausible.
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Except there isn't. Someone listed all the flags that use purple in another thread (or maybe this one) - including non-nations, like the city of Kyoto (or was it Tokyo?) - and none of them would've fit for any civs. Venice is the only one that fit.



All in all, granted, this could just be a lottery-level coincidence, but I think the odds are too ridiculous for that, so I'll just bank on Venice for now.
 
You guys sure this is not Rome?
 
nunor said:
Sure, that's a way of viewing it... I prefer to think the developers put a little more effort in selecting colors for a civ.
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Why exactly does Spain have those colors? How about the Iroquois? Venice is pretty close, they put the effort into checking wikipedia and choosing it based on that. They could have randomly picked colors as they apparently have done in the past.
 
are you guys sure that isn't just the default purpley color in paint or photoshop or whatever program they may have used? this idea alone should bring in to question the idea that is "confirmed" to be venice...
 
I just find this getting redundant. In the end, with the color patterns Fireaxis has used in the past for civs, we will never know until it is announced. We need to settle down with our theories and just wait it out.
 
SammyKhalifa said:
Well, just think of how many Civs would be either red or blue if they went strictly by flag/traditional civ colors.
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That's the point - we shouldn't automatically assume a Venice civ has to have red or gold as its colors.
 
Louis XXIV said:
Why exactly does Spain have those colors? How about the Iroquois? Venice is pretty close, they put the effort into checking wikipedia and choosing it based on that. They could have randomly picked colors as they apparently have done in the past.
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Pretty close colours?! They're exactly the same within error caused by compression. To put it bluntly, I don't see any other way that they would have come up with a colour combination that would be such a perfect match to those by mere chance.
 
SamBC said:
Unless there happens to be some other flag out there, dubious or not, with the same colour combination. It would be vanishingly unlikely to pick them randomly, but if there already happens to be the same colour combination out there somewhere for some other civ/nation, then it's plausible.
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May I just repeat, this isn't just similar colours, they are the same colours. As in, they look as though they were taken straight off the flag. Every flag and pretty much any version of one is going to have slightly different colours, this on the other hand is an exact match within compression error. Unless you can find another flag or coat of arms that has those exact colours, and I assure you, with 274,941,996,890,625 possible combinations it's very unlikely.
 
DeutschDachs said:
Ah i thought you were for Italy? I figured venice would be second best. Apologies if I was mistaken!
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I was also strongly against Italy, I just thought that they were going to be included due to Venice being removed, and them usually going for more general civilizations.
 
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