What is the Nature of God?

[Birdjaguar]

No just simply "our" brains as a whole are more complex in scope by the nature of our imagination, sorry if it came out badly.

Think your taking the system as simply defined by our brains as they are now, and not the scope they are capable of. We are and always have been more than the sum of the parts, given creative thought as a variable.

Not a problem, I just didn't get your meaning. Are our brains independent of the world around us? How dependent are we on our sensory inputs to utilize our brains to "full" capacity?

Can we separate the scope and imagination of our unrealized capacity from the world we live in?

 

[King Flevance]

God is a being that everything in our deminsion must be a part of to exist. He is outside of this deminsion himself though but oversees all deminsions. As in order for the deminsion to exist, it must be part of him. God is the properties of existance itself. By being so, he has complete control over existance itself, as this means he has control of himself as we all do.

 

[aussieboy]

God is one, but in three persons. He was there before time, exists outside of space and time, and will continue to do so unto the ages of ages. One person is the Father, the creator of the Earth, who is recognized as God by all three Abrahamaic religions. The second person is the Son, a historical figure named Jesus, son of Joseph, who is the Messiah, or Christ, and lived and died for the salvation of a sinful mankind. While on this earth, he was mortal in all respects except the sin of all mortals, and so had no predilection to do any wrong. While the person, Jesus, lived from 4 BC to 33 AD, he has existed in spirit along with the Father and the Holy Spirit for all time, since they are one in the same God, and are thus inseparable in essence. The third Person is the Holy Sptrit. He is the revealer of the Word of God, and is the inspiration for the writers of Scripture, the Apostles, and countless pious and faithful men and women.

Together, they are the penultimate presence, and transcend all human concepts, such as space, time and the laws of nature. He is omnipresent, omnipotent, and omnibenvolent. He is a just God, and a loving God. He loves all humankind unconditionally, despite our blatant failings, like an old craftsman who is attached to his creation, in spite of its flaws. His motives are unintelligible to mortals, who can only speculate and make close guesses.

 

[Quasar1011]

And I also don't think He can operate outside the universe, but that is a question of definitions; there is nothing "outside" the universe.

That's pretty cool! I didn't even know there was an "outside the universe".

I will skip the tons of biblical references to God's operations outside the universe. Let's go to the big bang. If the universe truly had a beginning, as the evidence suggests, what caused it to begin? Whatever or Whomever caused it to begin would be operating outside the universe. Not only that, but the causative Agent would have at least one more dimension of time than does the universe.

God is one, but in three persons. He was there before time, exists outside of space and time, and will continue to do so unto the ages of ages.

What he said.

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

No, I want to here Biblical references to God operating outside the universe. Because, at least the way I define "universe", there is no "outside", logically speaking, and I believe God cannot do the logically impossible.

 

[King Flevance]

God is the properties of existance itself. By being so, he has complete control over existance itself, as this means he has control of himself as we all do.

I do, our "logic" only applies to what we know. For all we know being "outside" of the universe is totally logical.

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

I do, our "logic" only applies to what we know. For all we know being "outside" of the universe is totally logical.

right. two thousand years ago, "Logic" said the world was flat and that the moon was a perfect sphere, and that humans could not fly. We have pbviously proved these wrong.

 

[punkbass2000]

The natuer of God is indescribable.

 

[Cannae]

I persomly belive that god is a it, does not have any awareness of what it is doing and I think rather him being a creater I think that it is the process of createion itself.In other words i think it is the big bang meaning that we are all are a part of god.I think that it is not correct to jump to conculsions of how god looks like a man because we relly have no proof of his exsitance so this is why I belive this.

 

[Sidhe]

Not a problem, I just didn't get your meaning. Are our brains independent of the world around us? How dependent are we on our sensory inputs to utilize our brains to "full" capacity?

Our brains are to some extent independant because we can imagine things that bear no relation to the Earth or it's material worth.

Can we separate the scope and imagination of our unrealized capacity from the world we live in?

Philosophers believe we can, if not then progress beyond the moment we exist in is somewhat impossible, since conception beyond what we know is somewhat impossible, imagination frees us of such constraint fortunately. Of course I would have to prove free will exists, but it is like most philosophy, merely hypothesis.

we are always ahead of the sum we call the material world, each moment thoughts holisticaly are progressive beyond the current sum of existence. I like to think of it as the material constantly trying to catch up, as new ideas are layed down.

 

[Narz]

The natuer of God is indescribable.

yeah, lock this thread!

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

yeah, lock this thread!

Hey now, some people think it is describable.

Like you, I think you could describe the nature of God as you understand it pretty easily, right?

 

[Narz]

Hey now, some people think it is describable.

Like you, I think you could describe the nature of God as you understand it pretty easily, right?

God is describable. God is everything or God is nothing. God is a tree, God is a bumblebee, God is a traffic jam, God is a man planting a flower and a man shooting up his co-workers. God is me, God is you, God is classical hero, God is Curt Sibling, God is highly offended by this, God is bemused by this. God is reading this right now under the guise of all of you. God is doing a million other things as well. God is my cat Scruffers sittin' in my lap. God is the sum total of all experiences and understandings. It takes all kinds and all kinds are God. God is more than the sum of His/Her parts. God loves You!

 

[Bozo Erectus]

God is describable. God is everything or God is nothing. God is a tree, God is a bumblebee, God is a traffic jam, God is a man planting a flower and a man shooting up his co-workers. God is me, God is you, God is classical hero, God is Curt Sibling, God is highly offended by this, God is bemused by this. God is reading this right now under the guise of all of you. God is doing a million other things as well. God is my cat Scruffers sittin' in my lap. God is the sum total of all experiences and understandings. It takes all kinds and all kinds are God. God is more than the sum of His/Her parts. God loves You!

Narz, throw in my human beatbox sounds and we can hit the road, performing in hospitals for handicapped kids I'll start packing my baggy clothes and dew rags.

 

[Narz]

Narz, throw in my human beatbox sounds and we can hit the road, performing in hospitals for handicapped kids I'll start packing my baggy clothes and dew rags.

Sounds like a plan. Let's bring BirdJaguar along too, he can help us strengthen our rhymin' skillz.

 

[Bozo Erectus]

Of course!