what reasons do the 3 major religious books give on...

[Lonkut]

homosexuality, masterbation, pre-marital sex, sado-maso and other "filthy" sexual acts?
What reasons do the 3 major religious books (Talmud, Qu'ran, Bibble) give that make homosexuality, masterbation, pre-marital sex such bad things?
Keep it intelligent plz.

 

[Masquerouge]

Mostly because reproduction was back then paramount to a society's survival, and faithful heterosexual couples were the best way to do it.

 

[Xanikk999]

Agree with the above poster. It should be obvious most things written in the bible were cultural and made sense at the time it was written by its various authors, but not today.

 

[Nylan]

Violation of the holy covenant and sanctity of marriage and the law of chastity.

I believe marriadge is meant to be a sacred, holy union full of fidelity, loyalty, and love.

 

[PrincepsAmerica]

Mostly because reproduction was back then paramount to a society's survival, and faithful heterosexual couples were the best way to do it.

See but that doesn't answer the OP's (poorly worded) question though.

He was asking for the reasons given in the text, not a biased atheist's stab in the dark at historical sociology.

 

[Bill3000]

He was asking for the reasons given in the text, not a biased atheist's stab in the dark at historical sociology.

While it was biased, sociology is probably ultimately the only effective answer. We're talking about interpretations of vague texts, after all - sociology is one of the few ways to quantify those interpretations.

 

[Che Guava]

If you're going for the '3 major religions' by numbers of adherents, I think you'll have ditch the talmud for the Hindu vedas...

 

[Lonkut]

well i gues I meant the Abrahamic texts.

 

[Che Guava]

ok then, politely withdrawn

 

[GenMarshall]

He was asking for the reasons given in the text, not a biased atheist's stab in the dark at historical sociology.

Around these parts, thats what what normaly the reason that atheists give, is just a stab in the dark (OT, to be honest, I never heard that statement "Stab in the dark") at historcal sociology that has no theological backing.

If you want to know the reasons given in the text, you have to look into it in a theological way.

well i gues I meant the Abrahamic texts.

There are only two Abrahamic text. Judaism has the Torah (Which is known as the Old Testiment in the Christian tradition), Christianity has both the Old and the New Testiment as the Bible, and Islam has the Koran.

 

[Shadylookin]

because god said so. There is no justification as to why these things are wrong only that they are so.

however masturbation and other non-vaginal intercourse was never banned in the bible(to my knowledge) it is just a very loose interpretation of the story of Onan. and SM is never expressly forbidden either. It's safe to say that most of these things are "naughty" because it's a cultural thing.

the koran expressly states that women are mens tillage and that they can go into them any way they please. So non-vaginal intercourse is expressly permitted in Islam.

 

[Erik Mesoy]

Short post for now, I'll find references later if I find the time.

Christianity says nothing on masturbation, sado-maso or other fetishes that I'm aware of; there are general rules against letting this or anything else take up too much of your life, of course.
this verse is the most frequently brought up regarding homosexuality. Pick your own translation, as there is a great deal of disagreement over the correct one. Since the modern concept of sexual orientation is newer than the New Testament, there is very little way to be sure. Try this, too.
Pre-marital and extra-marital sex is still right out because it's infidelity; even if your spouse agrees to it, it's still an "image" of infidelity because marriage is an "image" of the relationship of God to his people, and God will not allow you to worship any other gods.

 

[Elrohir]

homosexuality, masterbation, pre-marital sex, sado-maso and other "filthy" sexual acts?
What reasons do the 3 major religious books (Talmud, Qu'ran, Bibble) give that make homosexuality, masterbation, pre-marital sex such bad things?
Keep it intelligent plz.

To echo Erik (On some points) the Bible doesn't actually say anything about masturbation. It's traditionally thought to be sinful because of a story in the Old Testament about Onan, but if you actually read it it doesn't talk about masturbation at all. So that's a conscience thing. S&M isn't talked about, because they didn't have it. So again, that's a conscience thing. Basically, you need to ask yourself: Is this honoring and enjoyable to both partners? I personally wouldn't want to take part in something that involved degrading or hurting, or being degraded or hurt by my partner, but I won't claim that my personal likes and dislikes dictate universal morality. Be careful if someone says that something like that is inherently a sin (Although it certainly could be, like if one partner is forced into it) and be sure to ask for Scriptural cites if you're really interested.

On homosexuality and pre-marital sex, quite simply, those go against God's model for human society, and aren't good for us. That's the Christian view, plain and simple.

(On a side note, if I recall correctly, in Islam masturbation is viewed as not a good thing, but acceptable if doing so keeps you from more serious sin. Any Muslims here that know differently can, of course, correct me if I'm wrong. )

 

[Lonkut]

Wow Abraham was crazy but even crazier were the people who listened to his crap. Man the wrong people died and continue to die in the name of religion. Jeez.

 

[Bill3000]

9η ουκ οιδατε οτι αδικοι βασιλειαν θεου ου κληρονομησουσιν μη πλανασθε ουτε πορνοι ουτε ειδωλολατραι ουτε μοιχοι ουτε μαλακοι ουτε αρσενοκοιται

The original Greek text describes the second of the two behaviors as malakoi arsenokoitai. Malakoi means soft. It translated in both Matthew 11:8 and Luke 7:25 as "soft" (KJV) or as "fine" (NIV) in references to clothing. The meaning of arsenokoitai has been lost.

Comedy gold. The very word that is often translated to "homosexual" doesn't even have a known real meaning?

 

[GenMarshall]

Comedy gold. The very word that is often translated to "homosexual" doesn't even have a known real meaning?

I suspect the Wrath of MobBoss would come in .

 

[Elrohir]

Comedy gold. The very word that is often translated to "homosexual" doesn't even have a known real meaning?

Not exactly....

 

[Che Guava]

Not exactly....

Not to nit-pick, but where on that page does it say that the word was independently translated as such, and not just in the context of scripture?

 

[Elrohir]

Not to nit-pick, but where on that page does it say that the word was independently translated as such, and not just in the context of scripture?

What do you mean? The Apostle Paul basically made the word up, so it can't be translated outside of context. The word is made up of two words - arrhen, which translates as "male", or "a male", and koite, which, in this context, would mean "cohabition" or "sexual intercourse". So arsenokoites means "a male who cohabits with men", or something along those lines.

If you don't want to follow Biblical law, that's your choice. But saying it doesn't really say what it actually does say is ludicrous.

 

[GenMarshall]

Good find Elrohir