What supplements do you take?

Narz said:
The main attraction for me is low-risk, middling-reward. Lets say some study says that garlic may have some small effect on cancer prevention and bacterial infections.
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A herbal Pascal’s wager. I’m much more risk-averse, so I see it as: am I deficient in X? If not, then I see no reason to tinker with it.

I’m also probably not the person to trust with anything more than superficial judgments; I’d make a terrible doctor, air traffic controller, or really any sort of high-stress position.
 
amadeus said:
A herbal Pascal’s wager. I’m much more risk-averse, so I see it as: am I deficient in X? If not, then I see no reason to tinker with it.

I’m also probably not the person to trust with anything more than superficial judgments; I’d make a terrible doctor, air traffic controller, or really any sort of high-stress position.
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But you sound loudly honest though!
 
It's also a good way to accidentally overdose!
 
yung.carl.jung said:
when you actively avoid sugar for a few months you literally cannot live a normal life anymore. I had a phase where I didn't drink alcohol/soda/juice and did not eat sweets/cake/ice cream, any dessert. no processed dishes, no ketchup, nada.

after just weeks of this I noticed how my palate was getting intensely sensitive. after a month or two I got a noticeable pain in my gums when drinking a single sip of coca cola, or even rum mixed with cola. I could not do any social drinking unless I drank straight hard liquor or just beer. I could not visit my grandparents because they insist I eat their cake/cookies/sweets "one won't hurt!" my *** :D you have to entirely avoid any fast food chains when eating with friends, as well as most processed foods, it's cray cray. our tolerance for sugar has gone up so much, not stuffing yourself with sugar feels like a deficiency.

the problem in my diet, I reckon, is mostly fat, which I find almost as hard to cut out. I'm not a big sweet-tooth. not putting butter in my sauces as a finisher, not drizzling some olive oil, avoiding deep-fried foods.. it hurts me deep inside :D
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I'm with you on the sugar in processed foods, but don't fear the fat so much :p out species didn't develop munching on sugar cane, but did eating fat animals and fatty fruits. Olive oil is tasty :p Also sugar in fruit doesn't have a quick uptake so you don't have to forego all sweet things. I love autumn, going for the sweetest grapes still on the vines...

Sofista said:
Um, I can find a 45% hazelnut one just walking to the nearest supermarket - the things one discovers while avoiding vegetables! :D

Agree on gianduia though, it really is awesome.
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Lucky you living in hazelnut country!

The_J said:
Protein powder and creatin after workout.
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The food industry thanks you for helping make a valuable product off its waste. :p
 
Here's the deal. There's a shortage of science. We need people to lead science and try things out and follow hunches. There's also a lot of science of supplements they just aren't conclusive, but they make strong statements of chemical levels. Your big universities are busy curing alzheimers, they don't want grant money to find out if ashwagandha actually does anything, they want microscopes and oversampling software to look at proteins on the molecular level.

Also there is something to be said for reinforcing your efforts to change. If you take a supplement but you need to exercise to see the final form of the benefit, you know spending $60 a month on that one, and anothrer $60 on another, etc, is wasted if you don't act in conjunction. And when you take the supplement you are putting yourself in the mental space to act on those needs. As humans we are complicated, both chemically and behaviorally, and it's a total cop out to go "there's no conclusive studies therefore there's no point or benefit" especially while your life is, uh, "suboptimal" to put it politely.
 
aimeeandbeatles said:
It's also a good way to accidentally overdose!
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I take very little that can cause OD, vitamin D in small amounts.

The deadliest thing i take in is sugar.

Hygro said:
Your big universities are busy curing alzheimers
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Lol, hope you're not betting on it.

Hygro said:
Also there is something to be said for reinforcing your efforts to change. If you take a supplement but you need to exercise to see the final form of the benefit, you know spending $60 a month on that one, and anothrer $60 on another, etc, is wasted if you don't act in conjunction. And when you take the supplement you are putting yourself in the mental space to act on those needs.
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This is a good point.

Hygro said:
As humans we are complicated, both chemically and behaviorally, and it's a total cop out to go "there's no conclusive studies therefore there's no point or benefit" especially while your life is, uh, "suboptimal" to put it politely.
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Not to mention some supplements have a ton of research on them. Creatine for instance.

Also if you're always waiting for things to be proven you're gonna be waiting a long time. Most of the time in life there aren't conclusive answers, you have to take best guesses. Look at the human diet for instance, so much research & still hundreds of different ideas of optimum.
 
Narz said:
Lol, hope you're not betting on it.
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Actualy just this year scientists discovered a treatment that regenerated neurons and effectively cured parkinsonism in mice, though I've not heard anything since. There's a few similarities with PD and Alzheimer's (they're both neurodegenerative diseases that involve proteopathies), there might be some applicability.
 
haroon said:
But you sound loudly honest though!
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I’m aware of my limitations and vocal about them. If 100% of people were like me, civilized society would come to a screeching halt. :lol:

Narz said:
I'd rather not wait til I'm deficient, thats like getting a tutor only when your grades drop below failing
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Isn’t that when most people get tutors? Generally, when I failed at something I am inherently crap at I just tend to give up on it.

Hygro said:
As humans we are complicated, both chemically and behaviorally, and it's a total cop out to go "there's no conclusive studies therefore there's no point or benefit" especially while your life is, uh, "suboptimal" to put it politely.
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It’s not a cop-out, it’s deference to the scientific method, performing risk-benefit analysis, and managing the finite resources of time and money.

While ultimately a personal choice, I don’t see the benefits at this time. I do, however, see a number of risks that are unnecessary undertakings.
 
haroon said:
IIRC you made similar thread to this years ago..
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Ma meds ? More pharmaceuticals than supplements....

I do supplement with 12mg/ml nicotine, helps with attention and BMs :)
 
A recent blood test showed a vitamin d deficiency so now I'm on a multivitamin with a high vitamin d supplement under doctor's orders. I was taken by surprise with the blood test because I've never had vitamin d deficiency before, I drink a lot of milk and get a good amount of sunshine (and have the biker's tan to prove it). I did start using sunscreen while outside, so maybe that did it? There's been no change to my tanlines while using the sunscreen so idk.
 
hobbsyoyo said:
A recent blood test showed a vitamin d deficiency so now I'm on a multivitamin with a high vitamin d supplement under doctor's orders. I was taken by surprise with the blood test because I've never had vitamin d deficiency before, I drink a lot of milk and get a good amount of sunshine (and have the biker's tan to prove it). I did start using sunscreen while outside, so maybe that did it? There's been no change to my tanlines while using the sunscreen so idk.
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How is your thyroid function with the tumors? Vitamin D is sometimes one of the first things to go when thyroid function is compromised.
 
Synsensa said:
How is your thyroid function with the tumors? Vitamin D is sometimes one of the first things to go when thyroid function is compromised.
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Good. Or at least I assume that the doctor screened for thyroid function but I'll follow up.
The_J said:
You also need calcium to absorb vitamin D from your food. Maybe there's an issue :dunno:?
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Maybe but I drink about a gallon (3.78 L) of milk a week.
 
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