Whats with some southerners being attached to the confederate flag?

[Xanikk999]

I live in northern Virginia which is considered part of the south, but culturally its really not so as a result i don't see many of those people that always show off confederate flag prints on their clothes, hats, or cars.

Considering nobody alive today has any real connection to the events of the american civil war i find it silly that many southerners are still attached to the confederate logo.

The C.S.A was founded over disagreements on slavery plain and simple. States rights had almost nothing to do with it despite what they may of taught you in schools decades ago if you were taught in the south.

The decade leading up to the civil war and leading up to Lincoln's inauguration and the following cessation of southern states from the Union was ultimately over the intense disagreements on how to handle slavery in new states and whether to abolish it in old ones. I still haven't seen any convincing arguments that it was over a different issue and not slavery. The south was economically tied to slave owning practices and could not and would not give up slavery. As a result rising abolitionist sentiment was just too much for them to bear.

Basically what im trying to say is if you really adore the Confederate states of America and what they stood for. Understand that they stood for the continuation of enslavement and to keep the status quo of the south.

This is why i judge someones character if they walk around wearing red neck confederate logos on their clothing or have a confederate flag on the back of their pick up truck. I really doubt these people are rational thinkers.

 

[sophie]

They're trying to prove they've always been loyal for when the South inevitably rises again.

 

[amadeus]

They want to create a regional sense of pride and identity.

 

[Xanikk999]

Well duh but i was hoping someone would disagree with me and i could discuss this.

 

[Ajidica]

The C.S.A was founded over disagreements on slavery plain and simple. States rights had almost nothing to do with it despite what they may of taught you in schools decades ago if you were taught in the south.

When I went to school in the south it was taught to me as 'The War of Northern Aggression'. Make of that what you will.

Basically what im trying to say is if you really adore the Confederate states of America and what they stood for. Understand that they stood for the continuation of enslavement and to keep the status quo of the south.

People like Dommy consider the 'states rights' and 'evulh big guvmnt' rhetoric to be convincing, yet convienantly are blind to the realities.

This is why i judge someones character if they walk around wearing red neck confederate logos on their clothing or have a confederate flag on the back of their pick up truck. I really doubt these people are rational thinkers.

Most are just hicks or rednecks who are trying to pretend they have a glorious heritage.
And what Amadeus said.

 

[Xanikk999]

Do you want people to think you're dumb as a bag of bricks and a stereotypical racist of the south?

I certainly would'nt but i guess some people don't care.

 

[Luckymoose]

tl;dr

It's because people like to differentiate. It's no different than the Mexicans in the SW getting to dance around with their flags. They don't live in Mexico either.

 

[JohnRM]

Ultimately, the majority of the popularity of the flag is based on a meaning its detractors give it. Most people who use it wouldn't care so much if you didn't care so much.

 

[Ajidica]

tl;dr

It's because people like to differentiate. It's no different than the Mexicans in the SW getting to dance around with their flags. They don't live in Mexico either.

Yeah, but Mexico still exists and wasn't founded to protect the right to enslave others.

 

[Luckymoose]

Yeah, but Mexico still exists and wasn't founded to protect the right to enslave others.

Living in Mexico is worse than living in slavery.

 

[Mango Elephant]

Because our food is better than Yankees, so we must be proud of our superior food.

 

[Xanikk999]

Ultimately, the majority of the popularity of the flag is based on a meaning its detractors give it. Most people who use it wouldn't care so much if you didn't care so much.

So they like getting a rise out of people? It may be fun to piss people off but pick and choose your battles.

Its like if you wear a shirt emblazoned with profanities and crude sexual remarks. You may feel different from the crowd but it makes people think unkindly of you. I dont want to go out and public and get people to think im some nut case so i wouldnt wear a shirt like that, and i certainly wouldnt wear a confederate flag emblem on my shirt around a neighborhood of minorities.

It really is no different then skin heads with swastika tattoos.

 

[Ajidica]

Not all southern food is that great.
I swear your guys food mantra is "Food! Lets see if we can deep fry it or add more butter!"
The north isn't much better though.

 

[Mango Elephant]

So they like getting a rise out of people? It may be fun to piss people off but pick and choose your battles.

Its like if you wear a shirt emblazoned with profanities and crude sexual remarks. You may feel different from the crowd but it makes people think unkindly of you. I dont want to go out and public and get people to think im some nut case so i wouldnt wear a shirt like that, and i certainly wouldnt wear a confederate flag emblem on my shirt around a neighborhood of minorities.

It really is no different then skin heads with swastika tattoos.

So the Confederate flag = swastika. How?

 

[Ajidica]

Slavery and Nazism are both vile institutions that should be relegated to the trash-heap of history.

 

[Cutlass]

So the Confederate flag = swastika. How?

It's pretty much the same. It's a symbol that one group wants to seriously hurt another group, and thinks it is entitled to do so.

 

[Luckymoose]

Slavery and Nazism are both vile institutions that should be relegated to the trash-heap of history.

Nazism != CSA

 

[Xanikk999]

So the Confederate flag = swastika. How?

They both resembled battles fought for detestable reasons.

In the case of the confederacy, the right to form their own nation and continue enslaving millions of blacks against their will.

 

[JohnRM]

Not all southern food is that great.
I swear your guys food mantra is "Food! Lets see if we can deep fry it or add more butter!"
The north isn't much better though.

I must have a little South in me.

 

[kulade]

All of the south is basically a cesspool of trolls. They don't wave the confederate flag because "blargle-blargle-ar-history" or any of that crap, the do it to troll antsy northerners who indignantly pretend to be insulted by it. If it didn't invoke such a response they wouldn't get any lulz in waving it; the south is basically America's rebellious teenage child who wears a Che shirt to school to cause controversy and get attention. That's all it is, nothing more.