Which Civ would you prefere instead of HRE?

Which civ would you prefer nstead of HRE?

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Israel, no contest. That's assuming Ethiopia and a SE Asian civ will be in (we already know the latter will).
 
If Ethiopia and a South-Asian civ are included, I don't need to replace the Holy Roman Empire with anything.
If you really want me to name something, I think another North-East Afican civ would be nice. The Berbers or the Moors. Otherwise maybe a 'Polynesian Civ' (I don't know which though).
 
I said which one would you prefer instead of the Holy Roman Empire. Just curious to see what were the ones which people wanted instead of the HRE.
 
I'm not too bothered that HRE are in, although I will be bitterly dissapointed if Ethiopia are snubbed.

Assuming that Ethiopia are included, I would prefer to see either Kongo, Brazil, Dacia or Poland, with Kongo being my first choice. But like I said, I'm not really too bothered, aslong as Ethiopia is in.
 
I'm not bothered about it either, and I'm basically assuming that Ethiopia is a given. All other things being equal, if it came down to a choice between Israel and HRE, I'd pick Israel.
 
HRE wouldn't have been my first choice, personally i find Hittites, Ethiopia or Israel to be a better choice.What i find more wrong is Charlemagne as leader, Barbarossa would have been a lot better leader.
BTW i don't understand all this whining about HRE it's just a civ, there are things a lot more important like features.
 
I don't know about hittites. With Sumeria and Babylon in the expansion, Ottoman has a new leader and persia is likely to get a new leader, Hittites don't seem like the best option to me.
 
Hittites were the first to forge Iron weapons and in their age were really a powerful civ.
If they are not in BtS they will be the only MUST BE IN civ which hasn't made an appearance.
 
I don't care much about the Hittites. We already have so many civs from that region. If they really want to be in the game, they shouldn't have wasted their time forging iron weapons, but started a petition.

I would rather have Ethiopia and a South-Asian civ than the Hittites.
 
I think, it was long time overdue to implement the HRE.

Now there still are Prussia and Austria-Hungary missing, then the important European nations are in the game.
 
TheLastOne36 said:
then take Sumeria out.
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Sumer was the FIRST civilization. They contributed more to advance the cause of civilization than any other, except perhaps the Greeks. I offer the following for consideration (from Wikipedia admittedly, but these statements are easily verified):


"Examples of Sumerian technology include: the wheel, cuneiform, arithmetic and geometry, irrigation systems, sumerian boats, lunisolar calendar, bronze, leather, saws, chisels, hammers, braces, bits, nails, pins, rings, hoes, axes, knives, lancepoints, arrowheads, swords, glue, daggers, waterskins, bags, harnesses, armor, quivers, scabbards, boots, sandal (footwear), harpoons, and beer."

"Sumerians invented picture-hieroglyphs that developed into later cuneiform, and their language vies with Ancient Egyptian for credit as the oldest known written human language."

"Most authorities credit the Sumerians with the invention of the wheel, initially in the form of the potter's wheel. The new concept quickly led to wheeled vehicles and mill wheels. The Sumerians' cuneiform writing system is the oldest there is evidence of (with the possible exception of the highly controversial Old European Script), pre-dating Egyptian hieroglyphics by at least seventy-five years. The Sumerians were among the first astronomers, mapping the stars into sets of constellations, many of which constellations survived in the zodiac and in the constellations known to the ancient Greeks."

"They invented and developed arithmetic using several different number systems including a Mixed radix system with an alternating base 10 and base 6. This sexagesimal system became the standard number system in Sumer and Babylonia. Using this sexagesimal system they invented the clock with its 60 seconds, 60 minutes, and 12 hours, and the 12 month calendar which is still in use. They may have invented military formations and introduced the basic divisions between infantry, cavalry and archers. They developed the first known codified legal and administrative systems, complete with courts, jails, and government records. The first true city states arose in Sumer, roughly contemporaneously with similar entities in what is now Syria and Israel."

"Finally, the Sumerians ushered in the age of intensive agriculture and irrigation."


In other words, Sumer "deserves" to be in more than any other civ. If anything, Babylon should be taken out and Sumer left in! But I prefer both, as they're sufficiently distinguishable and both left indelible marks on history.
 
Gaius Octavius said:
Sumer was the FIRST civilization. They contributed more to advance the cause of civilization than any other, except perhaps the Greeks. I offer the following for consideration (from Wikipedia admittedly, but these statements are easily verified):


"Examples of Sumerian technology include: the wheel, cuneiform, arithmetic and geometry, irrigation systems, sumerian boats, lunisolar calendar, bronze, leather, saws, chisels, hammers, braces, bits, nails, pins, rings, hoes, axes, knives, lancepoints, arrowheads, swords, glue, daggers, waterskins, bags, harnesses, armor, quivers, scabbards, boots, sandal (footwear), harpoons, and beer."

"Sumerians invented picture-hieroglyphs that developed into later cuneiform, and their language vies with Ancient Egyptian for credit as the oldest known written human language."

"Most authorities credit the Sumerians with the invention of the wheel, initially in the form of the potter's wheel. The new concept quickly led to wheeled vehicles and mill wheels. The Sumerians' cuneiform writing system is the oldest there is evidence of (with the possible exception of the highly controversial Old European Script), pre-dating Egyptian hieroglyphics by at least seventy-five years. The Sumerians were among the first astronomers, mapping the stars into sets of constellations, many of which constellations survived in the zodiac and in the constellations known to the ancient Greeks."

"They invented and developed arithmetic using several different number systems including a Mixed radix system with an alternating base 10 and base 6. This sexagesimal system became the standard number system in Sumer and Babylonia. Using this sexagesimal system they invented the clock with its 60 seconds, 60 minutes, and 12 hours, and the 12 month calendar which is still in use. They may have invented military formations and introduced the basic divisions between infantry, cavalry and archers. They developed the first known codified legal and administrative systems, complete with courts, jails, and government records. The first true city states arose in Sumer, roughly contemporaneously with similar entities in what is now Syria and Israel."

"Finally, the Sumerians ushered in the age of intensive agriculture and irrigation."


In other words, Sumer "deserves" to be in more than any other civ. If anything, Babylon should be taken out and Sumer left in! But I prefer both, as they're sufficiently distinguishable and both left indelible marks on history.
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I didn't read ur post i just skipped it to say that having 1 or another is enough having both is to much. (for 1 expansion)
 
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