Which New Civs should be in CIV V
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Mad Man
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so would you like modern Macedonia or preAlexander Macedonia?
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The Macedonia Empire grew up on the banks of the Vardar and adjacent rivers. It developed separately to the Greeks but was influenced by the southern neighbours.
Alexander the Great of Macedonia did spread Greco Macedonia Culture but also took up aspects of the lands that were conquered.
Macedonia spread its own power in the same way that the US spreads its own power not English power and culture.
Alexander the Great of Macedonia did spread Greco Macedonia Culture but also took up aspects of the lands that were conquered.
Macedonia spread its own power in the same way that the US spreads its own power not English power and culture.
Yared
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Having one Greek Empire spares us the need to create Macedonia, Athens, Sparta, etc.
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But Macedonia was not part of Greece
If you think that the empire created by Alexander the Great of Macedonia did not have enough effect on the world then they should not be in the game but they can not be represented by a different civilisation.
I assume you think that the US also represents Canada and Mexico since they share some aspects of culture with the US.
If you think that the empire created by Alexander the Great of Macedonia did not have enough effect on the world then they should not be in the game but they can not be represented by a different civilisation.
I assume you think that the US also represents Canada and Mexico since they share some aspects of culture with the US.
Brownsfan02
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Israel should be for sure
But Macedonia was not part of Greece
If you think that the empire created by Alexander the Great of Macedonia did not have enough effect on the world then they should not be in the game but they can not be represented by a different civilisation.
I assume you think that the US also represents Canada and Mexico since they share some aspects of culture with the US.
That's different. Anyway, Ancient Macedonia was effectively the northern-most Greek boundary. Their cultures are too similar to distinguish between and as such a game like Civilization should consider them as one. Look at the first leader Firaxis gave the Greeks, Alexander. That's proof enough (Firaxis always have sensible leaderhead and civilisation choices, don't they
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The Macedonians spoke a different language to Greek.
They were influenced by the Greeks in much the same way as Portugal and Spain influence each other and have similar cultures.
Do you think there should just be an Iberian Civ because
The Macedonians spoke a different language to Greek.
They were influenced by the Greeks in much the same way as Portugal and Spain influence each other and have similar cultures.
Do you think there should just be an Iberian Civ because
Just because Firaxis made a mistake in 91 does not mean it should not be corrected.
Language isn't the defining point on culture. In fact, it's fairly meaningless as an ethnic or cultural group can pick up a different language over the course of a couple of centuries.
Also, as someone who lives in Spain and has travelled to Portugal on a few occasions, they do have quite a few major cultural differences. More so than the differences between the various cultural groups of the British Isles, or of Scandinavia against Finland.
I wasn't aware that the Macedonians spoke a language of their own, but I highly doubt it was particularly different from Greek. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if the two were about as different as the various Slavic languages in the Balkans (which I know are very similar).
Culturally, I'm quite certain they were near identical. If I remember correctly they were ethnically similar and originated from the same part of the world, there's no way they could be that different.
Ok, note that there must be like leaders for each civ. I'd suggest these civs along with the ones currently implemented in the game. ++, +, 0, -, and -- state how much I want these in the game.
-Akkadian Empire (+) ~2000BC
Leader: Sargon
Mughal Empire (0) ~1550AD
Leaders: Akbar, Shah Jahan
Safavid Empire (+) ~1500AD
Leader: Shah Abbas
Vietnamese Empire (++) ~1940AD with independence from France
Leader: Ho Chi Minh (won indepedence from France)
Umayyad Caliphate (++) ~650AD (this empire was huge at its height)
Leader: Muawiyah I
Assyrian Empire (+) ~700BC
Leader: Tiglath-Pileser III
The Indian Empire is not really accurate, as Asoka ruled the Maruya Empire in around 270BC. But here is my two cents.
-Akkadian Empire (+) ~2000BC
Leader: Sargon
Mughal Empire (0) ~1550AD
Leaders: Akbar, Shah Jahan
Safavid Empire (+) ~1500AD
Leader: Shah Abbas
Vietnamese Empire (++) ~1940AD with independence from France
Leader: Ho Chi Minh (won indepedence from France)
Umayyad Caliphate (++) ~650AD (this empire was huge at its height)
Leader: Muawiyah I
Assyrian Empire (+) ~700BC
Leader: Tiglath-Pileser III
The Indian Empire is not really accurate, as Asoka ruled the Maruya Empire in around 270BC. But here is my two cents.
Akkad is covered by Sumeria.
Mughals, are somewhat appropriate for the game.
Safavids, covered by Persia.
Vietnam were never significant enough to warrant a place in this game.
Ummyads are covered by Arabia.
Assyrian Empire, eyah they ought to be in.
Indian Empire is catch-all, so things like the Mauryan Empire are included in it.
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Well, Vietnam did defeat the armies of China, Mongolia, and America, at various points in its thousands-of-years-long history. And built their own copy of the Forbidden Palace in Hue. And were possibly the first people in East Asia with agriculture. The Trung sisters would be much better leaders for Vietnam than Ho though.
But otherwise, you're right.
But otherwise, you're right.
Finland repelled a mass Soviet invasion between 1939 and 1940, do you think they warrant a place?
And building a replica of another building isn't impressive at all.
Didn't know about the agriculture, though. However I still feel they aren't right for the game.
Huayna Capac357
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The superpower of China, the hordes of Kublai Khan, and the massive US army > the USSR's army.
It isn't an exact replica, and anyways, they had other important buildings too (it's not as if this was the only one)
It isn't an exact replica, and anyways, they had other important buildings too (it's not as if this was the only one)
Read the third post.
Well, I agree entirely with what Varwnos said there. My point was that it is not an entirely outrageous suggestion that no-one would ever dream of making. I wasn't arguing that it should be in the game, more pointing out that funnily enough, others do.
Zenon_pt
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There are some civ's that I would love to play with.
South Africa with Nelson Mandela (I know, I know it's to modern to ask, but HE IS, for me, the Greatest Leaders still living in our time!).
Hebrews/Israel - David or Soloman
Brasil - Pedro or Lula
Gran Colombia with Simon Bolivar
Thailand - Rama
Phoenicia - (I don't know any ruler) but they do deserve to be in Civ, they given us the most precious code of all: the Alphabet
South Africa with Nelson Mandela (I know, I know it's to modern to ask, but HE IS, for me, the Greatest Leaders still living in our time!).
Hebrews/Israel - David or Soloman
Brasil - Pedro or Lula
Gran Colombia with Simon Bolivar
Thailand - Rama
Phoenicia - (I don't know any ruler) but they do deserve to be in Civ, they given us the most precious code of all: the Alphabet
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