White flight

[Pasi Nurminen]

Piss poor public transpotation?? Have you been to an American city?

Have you been to Seattle? Dallas? San Antonio? Houston?

Didn't think so.

 

[amadeus]

Commie, would you live in downtown Detroit?

 

[shortguy]

A lot of immigration from the Northern states and large urban cities down to the Southern USA shifted demographics and turned them more conservative (the South was largely socialist, a relic from the FDR programs).

Not really. Southerners were pretty vital in Harry Truman's VP nomination over Henry Wallace in 1944, Wallace being quite a bit too far left for the Southerners' comfort. The alliance between New Deal Democrats and Southern Democrats was pretty uneasy from the start.

 

[ShannonCT]

New York, D.C., L.A. I've done Tokyo's mass tranisit and its on par with those three.

Tokyo's metro is cleaner, faster, and more prompt than New York's. But that's to be expected with a much newer system. Coverage area is excellent with both systems. The biggest disadvantage of Tokyo's system is the sardine factor - I dont know if I'd like to be dry-humping a Japanese businessman every morning and afternoon.

Speaking of New York, it seems like white flight has been reversing there for many years.

 

[skadistic]

Have you been to Seattle? Dallas? San Antonio? Houston?

Didn't think so.

Been to Seattle twice. Dallas a few times. You named 3 cities in Texas maybe texas has a problem?

 

[amadeus]

With piss poor public transit in most American cities, poor people simply cannot afford to live too far from their jobs like middle class people can, so they congregate in ghettoes. It's pretty simple.

That certainly isn't the case in Minneapolis; you can tell the people that are working there don't live there. The people that do live there are, generally speaking, gangbangers and hoodlums that stand outside of City Center.

 

[JohnRM]

Do you believe in white flight?

Believe in it? Do I believe that it exists? Yes.

Do you support it?

Well, I took part in "white flight", so yes, I guess I do.

Is it good for America?

No, it is not good that minorities are destroying our cities, but white flight in itself is neither good nor bad, I suppose. It could possibly be a little bad. If whites stayed in the cities they might be able to change things.

Are you a product of white flight?

Nope. I am apart of "white flight."

Is it rasist?

Nope. These people refuse to speak English and they hang onto a culture that I just can't grasp. They drive around in the middle of the night blasting gangsta and "salsa" music to the point that I can't get a single hour of consecutive sleep. The minority neighborhoods are infested with drugs, gangs, trash, and graffiti. Racist? I am sure that there is an element of racism with some people, but most just want to get away from it all -- even some good black and hispanic families.

 

[Commie #4522]

Believe in it? Do I believe that it exists? Yes.

The first step is admitting the problem.

Well, I took part in "white flight", so yes, I guess I do.

Ok.

No, it is not good that minorities are destroying our cities, but white flight in itself is neither good nor bad, I suppose. It could possibly be a little bad. If whites stayed in the cities they might be able to change things.

Minorities are destroying our cities? That's a very ignorant observation, if not rasist.

Nope. I am apart of "white flight."

That is unfortunate.

Nope. These people refuse to speak English and they hang onto a culture that I just can't grasp. They drive around in the middle of the night blasting gangsta and "salsa" music to the point that I can't get a single hour of consecutive sleep. The minority neighborhoods are infested with drugs, gangs, trash, and graffiti. Racist? I am sure that there is an element of racism with some people, but most just want to get away from it all -- even some good black and hispanic families.

A very intollerant 'observation'.

 

[CCA]

This is unrelated but what sort of Communist are you Commie
Are you trotskyist, stalinist, Maoist

 

[Kraznaya]

Nope. These people refuse to speak English and they hang onto a culture that I just can't grasp. They drive around in the middle of the night blasting gangsta and "salsa" music to the point that I can't get a single hour of consecutive sleep. The minority neighborhoods are infested with drugs, gangs, trash, and graffiti. Racist? I am sure that there is an element of racism with some people, but most just want to get away from it all -- even some good black and hispanic families.

What about the many whites who also participate in this behavior (re: Eminem rofl) and the general trailer trash stereotype? We should get away from this too, which is why we stay out of Arkansas and Alabama, right?

 

[Elta]

Believe in it? Do I believe that it exists? Yes.




Well, I took part in "white flight", so yes, I guess I do.




No, it is not good that minorities are destroying our cities, but white flight in itself is neither good nor bad, I suppose. It could possibly be a little bad. If whites stayed in the cities they might be able to change things.




Nope. I am apart of "white flight."




Nope. These people refuse to speak English and they hang onto a culture that I just can't grasp. They drive around in the middle of the night blasting gangsta and "salsa" music to the point that I can't get a single hour of consecutive sleep. The minority neighborhoods are infested with drugs, gangs, trash, and graffiti. Racist? I am sure that there is an element of racism with some people, but most just want to get away from it all -- even some good black and hispanic families.

The fake gangsta thing happens every where, and yes I am blaming TV.

As far as the blasting salsa you get a ticket for having your music over X amount of decibles so that never happens here. ....maybe I am desensitysed from living in the semi-burbs, I just don't recognize it as a race thing so much as a poor person thing, no one claims the poor white people in naked city are trying to "hold on to some culture" they call them tweakers on section 8 .....
I get the feeling more and mopre now that people only see culture as language,food and music. (from OT anyway in the real world everyone seems to get along pretty well)

 

[JohnRM]

The first step is admitting the problem.

I don't really see it as a problem.

Minorities are destroying our cities? That's a very ignorant observation, if not rasist.

I overstated my claim. I have never lived in any other major city other than Reading, Pennsylvania. They (now majorities) are destroying it. That is a fact. The City of Reading was a fine place to live until the hispanics started to move in. All of the sudden there are a dozen "Latino gangs" fighting gang/drug wars all over the place. The streets are littered and vandalism is rampant.

A very intollerant 'observation'.

How is it intolerant of me to want people to speak English and not blast their gangbanger music at two o'clock in the morning so I can get some freakin' sleep?

 

[Kraznaya]

How is it intolerant of me to want people to speak English and not blast their gangbanger music at two o'clock in the morning so I can get some freakin' sleep?

I have white neighbors down the road we constantly use our dead end road as a private racing track while playing bad thrash metal at midnight. Should I call them the n word for being a minority problem?

 

[JohnRM]

What about the many whites who also participate in this behavior (re: Eminem rofl) and the general trailer trash stereotype? We should get away from this too, which is why we stay out of Arkansas and Alabama, right?

There are a significant number of whites in my city who participate in similar, if not identical activities. If I am correct, there is really only one true white gang in Reading. However, the violence and drug problem is almost entirely commited by hispanics and blacks.

I've never been to Arkansas or Alabama, so I cannot confirm nor deny your estimation of the situation there. I can tell you that there are areas of this country inhabited by majority whites that I would equally not wish to live in. Some of the reasons are similar and some are different.

 

[JohnRM]

I have white neighbors down the road we constantly use our dead end road as a private racing track while playing bad thrash metal at midnight. Should I call them the n word for being a minority problem?

I am confused. Have I, at any point, suggested that you call black people by the aforementioned racial monicker?

 

[Kraznaya]

There are a significant number of whites in my city who participate in similar, if not identical activities. If I am correct, there is really only one true white gang in Reading. However, the violence and drug problem is almost entirely commited by hispanics and blacks.

I've never been to Arkansas or Alabama, so I cannot confirm nor deny your estimation of the situation there. I can tell you that there are areas of this country inhabited by majority whites that I would equally not wish to live in. Some of the reasons are similar and some are different.

I was merely trying to illustrate that its not just the demonized minorities that commit crimes. While the incarcination rate is higher for blacks and hispanics, it is not nearly the ratio you described. Hell, there are even many asian gangs.

I am confused. Have I, at any point, suggested that you call black people by the aforementioned racial monicker?

Another badly done parallel explanation, my argumentive tactics are not up to task tonight, nevertheless, you know what I meant.

 

[Commie #4522]

This is unrelated but what sort of Communist are you Commie
Are you trotskyist, stalinist, Maoist

There is only one type of real Communist - a socialist.

Maoism, Stalinism, Leninism, etc. are merely labels applied to a perversion of real Communism.

 

[Kraznaya]

There is only one type of real Communist - a socialist.

Maoism, Stalinism, Leninism, etc. are merely labels applied to a perversion of real Communism.

There are many forms of socialism as well.

 

[Commie #4522]

There are many forms of socialism as well.

That's a whole other topic.

While I am young, and I have not solidified my views on socialism, I am quite eclectic in regards to different ideas and methods. I guess I'm the closest to a western European left wing socialist.

 

[JohnRM]

I was merely trying to illustrate that its not just the demonized minorities that commit crimes. While the incarcination rate is higher for blacks and hispanics, it is not nearly the ratio you described. Hell, there are even many asian gangs.

I do not recall ever stating any kind of ratio. There are at least two Asian gangs in Reading.

Another badly done parallel explanation, my argumentive tactics are not up to task tonight, nevertheless, you know what I meant.

I omitted the word 'should'.

'Have I ever said that you should call black people by that name?'