Who should control corporations?

[Senethro]

You mean I did not single handedly come up with a revolutionary new perspective on human economics in a gaming forum



That's why I think it must be mandatory, can't allow non co-ops because they'd be doing the abusing or co-ops would abuse non co-op workers. Now unlike Marx I don't have such high hopes for humanity where I think profit motives can be fully removed in any near future, so the main goal is to ensure the profits are not concentrated to the few, that the work people do by and large benefits them just as much as the corporation, and that the system does not allow full ownership of one man over another (masked as labor/time/employment/wages)

So the state would not run these things like communism or state led capitalism, but the state would enforce the laws that mandated this structure.

This is well intentioned, but I don't think it is sufficient. These slow AIs, if poorly programmed, will still turn the entire planet into paperclips.

Or more realistically, they will destroy sustainable resources for a profit today.

 

[Dekker]

This is well intentioned, but I don't think it is sufficient. These slow AIs, if poorly programmed, will still turn the entire planet into paperclips.

Or more realistically, they will destroy sustainable resources for a profit today.

That's where the state needs to be independent from those entities unlike our Citizens United system today and play the role of regulator and environmental protector. For all the big gubment opponents I'd love to hear their views on environmental protection when cruise ships just destroy the ocean, oil companies hide climate data and China's big cities are smothered in smog.

A strong public sector to protect the public and a private sector that profits ALL it's it's workers is a start, I mean the star trek future will never happen. We have these same problems today but worse, incremental change is still change for the better. Are there other measures that may help?

 

[Lexicus]

You mean I did not single handedly come up with a revolutionary new perspective on human economics in a gaming forum

And you should be ashamed of yourself! I come up with an entirely new paradigm in every post!

Nah for real tho I always like to whip out my Marx and show it to unsuspecting Americans

 

[hobbsyoyo]

I've been wondering how turnover is handled. Does the company buy back whatever shares the departing employee has accrued?

If you leave the company, you'd still be entitled to the shares you've earned. You would just be a another investor at that point only your primary investment came in the form of labor and not capital. Unless turnover is atrocious, you're not going to have enough share dilution to care about - especially if it takes X year(s) to vest the shares to begin with. I'm not against buyouts though and in fact they may be appropriate in instances of a privately-held company where there is no option to sell the shares on the market.