I'm sure once Ben Affleck resigns from the Global Feminism Committee, and it denounces sexual violence, it can begin to recover from the damage he's done in his tenure there. I don't know why Judith Butler put up with him for so long.
And THAT, Metatron, I say, is really your problem.
Edit: whoa, colours just happened
This is one of the best compliments I have ever receivedwhat a beautifully adornoesque post
Because nobody who is at all familiar with the social dynamics of sexual violence and the way pretty much all cultural and political fields and institutions protect powerful abusers is particularly surprised when some more Hollywood dudes turn out to be garbage?
No, i obviously don't think that Hollywood is run by "feminists"; i think it's mostly run by movie executives and business people.Why do you think Ben Affleck is some major feminist leader or thinker? This is really confusing. It is honestly utterly bizarre. Why do you think the mainstream American entertainment industry is the "firmest of professions"? It appears from these posts that you think feminism runs Hollywood, which is, um.
Doesn't this undercut your point that SWJ Feminists are shoving the Feminist agenda down your throat?Most threads about issues that relate to "feminism" or women's issues generally are started by people who aren't exactly the foremost preachers of "feminist" gospel on the board.?
1. StawmanDoesn't this undercut your point that SWJ Feminists are shoving the Feminist agenda down your throat?
Well, doesn't this feel symmetrical. Again.You're aware I'm neither American, a member of the entertainment industry nor a rich derpy centrist liberal, yeah?
If you wanna talk about (mis)management of sexual harassment and assault in the Australian public service, in the Australian Greens, in the offices of judges, in various football circles, in the military, in university clubs, then those are all things I've been familiar with and have had a stake in at different points, but this? Not so much.
"He's yours" says a heap about your own monomaniacal obsession with attacking "********s" (a term you seriously used), not much about anything else.
So you make a strawman, get corrected, and just go on insisting on the strawman?So if you get the feminist agenda shoved down your throat, this thread seems a bit of self bukkake.
People - this thread is dumb. Because you people are not getting to the point. This is not about feminism but mass culture.
But here comes Terx to save the thread!
@metatron
Mass culture sucks, oh who knew. Humans are made for personal relationships. But we live in massive million-numbering relations where no one knows anyone, so - oh wonder - the natural mechanisms controlling our social relations - mechanism who rest on personal relationships - do not work well, so crap happens. A lot of it. And we are drowned in hypocrisy, and superficiality and all that jazz. That is the bastard child of personal culture to you: mass culture. It sucks! But it is all we got.
All the basic complaints I see you have about feminism in this thread are as employable on any humanist cause.
With one not so tiny exception: Men can do without many faults. We can be fine not murdering or harassing people, in general. Because a functional human group always demanded those trates.
But men will always want to bone, very much, a ton of females they meet. And civilization can not do away with that..
So in this case, mass culture meets an enemy like no other.
So in this case, raw primal instincts meet crappy mass culture like in no other arena of cultural clash.
So in this case, like in no other, the faults of mass culture are as exposed as in no other arena.
And THAT, Metatron, I say, is really your problem.
Are you calling me a MRA?So you make a strawman, get corrected, and just go on insisting on the strawman?
That's a fallacy.Are you calling me a MRA?