Fox Mccloud said:
You're going to say that about all my threads, aren't you?
What made you say that?
Yes, and the Russians fought a revelution where 4 million died jsut so they can change the title "Czar" to "Communist".
Where the hell are people comming up with this?
Here.
Fox Mccloud said:
Communism has split Germany, Vietnam, Korea, all of Europe, and China into two. China's the only Communist success story, but they might end up falling like the Soviet Union did.
Communism didn't "split" Europe into two. The iron curtain may not have existed beforehand, but there were significant differences between Western and Eastern Europe (e.g. culture and the extent of industrialization). Moreover, communism did not split Vietnam. France split Vietnam because it didn't want the whole country to be communist. The South was supposed to be incorporated in national elections that were to begin in 1956, I believe ( I may be off a year or so), but the South decided that it didn't want to join the communist North in 1954 or '55, causing the war. You can't simply blame the war on communism.
Moreover, China is hardly communist. With the SEZs in the east and the privileges granted to Hong Kong, China's becoming more and more capitalist, being almost socialist in name only except for the fact that the government is oligarchic and owns some companies.
Fox Mccloud said:
Don't give me that b/s! Communism has been tried, AND IT FAILED! Are you telling me that Communism isn't about % the West or die, Be Atheist, or die, give up your rights, or die"? That's basically what it does. Soviet Union was Communist, It failed! You can't give your leaders absolute power like Communism does, because they start killig their people!
You're right that communism has been tried and that the efforts were fruitless. However, communism is
not about screwing over the West. That was just a result of the Cold War being between a Western and Eastern power, each with putatively diametrically opposed (or made so through propaganda); being against the West isn't part of communist doctrine, but merely a product of the times. Moreover, being atheist is not a requirement for communism. Marx did, however, exclaim that "religion is the opiate of the masses." Finally, communism is not about giving up your rights. Rather, the socialist state that is supposed to precede it has a planned economy, not the communist society, which is supposed to be stateless.
The multiple errors that you made (the most egregious ones being the "atheist or die" and "screw the west") make people think that you don't know what you're talking about.
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Don't really know what you mean. If they're all like this one, yes, but that's really neither here nor there.
