Wonder Elimination Thread

Hanging Gardens 1(-3)
The Oracle 5(+1)

Is it just me or should the winner be at least mildly feasible to build at any high difficulty

You can build HG on Immortal and occasionally on Deity as well.
 
I would say that is correct with the last few wonders that survived, though I wouldn't call it #1 myself. Still, it's right up there, being quite useful universally.

I'd like to see if, given a month or so, the outcome would look quite the same or end totally differently. Obviously in the last few, there were several that had people scratching their heads, after all.
 
THE ORACLE WINS!!!!!!!!

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you can conquer it in deity which saves you the trouble of building it. plus its 9 times out of 10 not the only wonder in that civ. quite valuable whether you built it or not. the oracle's only value was in building it.

bummer.
 
The Oracle - who would have predicted that?

I hope you all had a lot of fun posting and voting and reading. Thanks.
 
Warren Buffet did
 
So this is the CivFanatics forum top ten wonders:

1.Oracle
2.Hanging Gardens
3.Leaning Tower of Pisa
4.Petra
5.Chichen Itza
6.Machu Picchu
7.Notre Dame
8.Porcelain Tower
9.Neuschwanstein Castle
10.Louvre

Even if you disagree a bit with the order, I don't think we'd get too many arguments about these being the top wonders in the game.
 
So this is the CivFanatics forum top ten wonders:

1.Oracle
2.Hanging Gardens
3.Leaning Tower of Pisa
4.Petra
5.Chichen Itza
6.Machu Picchu
7.Notre Dame
8.Porcelain Tower
9.Neuschwanstein Castle
10.Louvre

Even if you disagree a bit with the order, I don't think we'd get too many arguments about these being the top wonders in the game.

I'd probably take out CI and Petra and replace them with Big Ben (perfect time for buying price reduction, right when the money really starts to flow) and the Collosus (+5 gold alone is worth those hammers, even if you never work a single water tile), but overall, I will agree the top 10 is pretty solid, even if the order seems a little off to many people.

I can't imagine anyone would take exception to more than 2 of the top 10 being top 10.
 
Should have made it further :p
 

The Oracle - who would have predicted that?

I hope you all had a lot of fun posting and voting and reading. Thanks.

YAY for ORACLE!!!

One of the best wonders in the game. It deserves to win!

-Primordial wonder for sub 210 science games :goodjob:
-The AI rarely prioritize it :goodjob:
-Can be built to open the rationalism tree :goodjob:
-Can be built to accelerate the completion of your 1st entire tree :goodjob:
-Free gs point(crucial to pop another useful gs for fast science games) and +3 cpt :goodjob:
 
@ Roof - Big Ben has changed post Gods and Kings. It no longer provides discout for buying items within cities
 
YAY for ORACLE!!!

One of the best wonders in the game. It deserves to win!

-Primordial wonder for sub 210 science games :goodjob:
-The AI rarely prioritize it :goodjob:
-Can be built to open the rationalism tree :goodjob:
-Can be built to accelerate the completion of your 1st entire tree :goodjob:
-Free gs point(crucial to pop another useful gs for fast science games) and +3 cpt :goodjob:

Yep. And in games where you only build a couple of world wonders, Oracle would be one of them because you would only be getting 7-8 of the best SP and a free one helps tremendously. Oracle is not my favorite wonder but no surprise that it's up there as #1.
 
Yep. And in games where you only build a couple of world wonders, Oracle would be one of them because you would only be getting 7-8 of the best SP and a free one helps tremendously. Oracle is not my favorite wonder but no surprise that it's up there as #1.

Well it was my 2nd best behind CI. Not bad for my taste! :p

I'm pretty happy that HG didn't win. People voted way too strong for this one.
 
Petra deserved not to win. Everyone was talking about their "beautiful Petra city...a mix of desert hills, flat desert, etc.". That's awfully situational. I can't recall the last time I had a desert city. I tend not to have more than four cities anyways and usually don't spawn or place them near deserts.

I'm one of its greatest fans, and I'd say that - the fact that it is Petra aside - it didn't deserve to win. I'd place it second, but 4th would be okay behind certain Wonders. Losing out to Leaning Tower of Pisa is the sticking point for me, though - that was not one of the Wonders that should have been in the top 4, in my opinion. I think the leading Wonder that was most badly-served was Macchu Picchu.

Mmm, the Louvre shouldnt have made it that far in my opinion.

Agreed on that. I'm not at all sure Chichen Itza should have either, but frankly I'm sufficiently uncertain about the reasons it was ranked so high (and build it so rarely myself) that I can't categorically say that it shouldn't be. I will say that it shouldn't be ahead of Macchu Picchu in the final order, though.

I'm pretty happy that HG didn't win. People voted way too strong for this one.

They voted for it because it's strong enough to win, and IMO deserved to. In the final running, it lost out not because it wasn't perceived to be the stronger Wonder, but because it's harder to build before the AI gets it. Which to me is a bad reason for voting against Wonders anyway. IMO Hanging Gardens remains the game's best Wonder.
 
@ Roof - Big Ben has changed post Gods and Kings. It no longer provides discount for buying items within cities
What, cost of purchasing stuff with gold is 15% cheaper. If this isn't a discount what is?
 
Hanging gardens is useful no matter what victory type you are going for.
Petra - I am surprised it made it to the final 5. Need a desert to build it, why are you building a city in the desert? It has to be one of your first 2 cities otherwise you will not have the production to build it before someone esle.

Yesterday I with Maya (Immortal, Continents, Standart) tried something close to ICS and hardbuild Petra in my fifteenth city (only two defensive wars without any conquest) :-)
 
So this is the CivFanatics forum top ten wonders:

1.Oracle
2.Hanging Gardens
3.Leaning Tower of Pisa
4.Petra
5.Chichen Itza
6.Machu Picchu
7.Notre Dame
8.Porcelain Tower
9.Neuschwanstein Castle
10.Louvre

Even if you disagree a bit with the order, I don't think we'd get too many arguments about these being the top wonders in the game.

I'd knock out the Louvre and include Hubble, maybe as high as the top 5. I also really love Eiffel (happiness problems? What happiness problems?) but it's become somewhat less potent since G&K, so actually looking at these I'm not sure I'd put it in the top 10. Certainly higher than it finished up, though.
 
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