Wonders of Destruction 2

[Mikoyan]

Originally posted by CurtSibling

To see one sink is a sad thing...
One day the heyday of big ships will return, I think in the sea of space.

 

[Simon Darkshade]

Why they chose the Yamato, apart from being a Japanese cartoon, will never be known.

 

[Suki]

they really need to get away from thinking that war in space will be anything like it is down in our oceans.

and here's something cool a little video of an f-14 tomcat breaking the sound barrier

edit: that didn't work.

 

[Simon Darkshade]

Yes, dem those demned cartoonists for not portraying a sober rendering of intergalactic conflict.

 

[CurtSibling]

Originally posted by Simon Darkshade
Why they chose the Yamato, apart from being a Japanese cartoon, will never be known.

Because it is cool!

Do we need any other reason?

"Star Cruiser Ohio" just doesn't conjure the proper vibe!

 

[CurtSibling]

Originally posted by Suki
they really need to get away from thinging that war in space will be anything like it is down in our oceans.
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The strategic principle will be the same: 'Blow things up'....

 

[Simon Darkshade]

Originally posted by CurtSibling
Because it is cool!

Do we need any other reason?

"Star Cruiser Ohio" just doesn't conjure the proper vibe!

Oh, there need to be other reasons.

Hood. Revenge. Dreadnought. Warrior. Victory. Leviathan.
All much more evocative.

And all the vibe that is needed comes from "Big Stick" Iowa, "Big J/Firepower for Freedom" New Jersey, "Mighty Mo" Missouri and "Wisky" Wisconsin. A vibe felt not too long ago from the latter pair blasting mincing Saddamites during Desert Storm. :

And why is it designated a bloody cruiser? Didn't these cartoonists read the Washington Naval Treaty?

 

[G-Man]

Originally posted by CurtSibling
The strategic principle will be the same: 'Blow things up'....

But without material around you firing one of Simon's 16' guns will probably send the shooting ship back to it's home start

 

[CurtSibling]

I am not saying use the terrestrial BBs in space, you silly boy!

I am talking about giant battle cruiser spaceships.

It is fair to assume there will be one day, space battles using the same combat ethos as the naval battles of the 20th century, With 'carriers' 'destroyers' and other classes...

Although giant nuclear warheads may liven it all up a bit...

 

[Suki]

but everything is so expensive and fragile in space...

this is pretty funny
world's ugliest aircrafts

I see now what I did wrong with this

 

[YNCS]

Okay, Suki, I give up. What's that aircraft doing? Is it dumping fuel?

 

[Mikoyan]

How could they put the A-10 on that list!?

I think it is a beautiful aircraft.

 

[G-Man]

Originally posted by YNCS
Okay, Suki, I give up. What's that aircraft doing? Is it dumping fuel?

If you're talking about the F-14 I think it's breaking through the speed of sound barrier.

 

[CurtSibling]

It matters not how 'ugly' some aircraft are.

Yes, the Warthog is not a sexy looking plane, but it's looks harken back to the great era of vintage WW2 attack craft.

Like a mystic mix of a He162 Salamander and a P47 Thunderbolt...What a fine crate!

This beast's strike capabilities are awesome.

 

[Suki]

I trust you've all also seen boeing's idea for a new ekranoplane the pelican, well this one can also fly, take off and land like an airplane but gets almost twice as many miles to the galon 20' over water.

carrying 17 M1 tanks is nothing to sneeze at...

 

[MadScot]

Unless those wingtips move, landing is going to be amusing - unless you're onboard.

Odd that they have chosen a configuration which minimises how close you can get to the sea - thereby limiting the WIGE benefits. And odd that they've mounted engines convetionally on the wing, when the Russian ekranoplans all (to my recollection) had either fin or fuselage mounted engines.

After Boeing's BS spin job with the sonic cruiser I see no reason to see this as other than a purely paper project with zero probability of EVER being built.

 

[MadScot]

Originally posted by G-Man
If you're talking about the F-14 I think it's breaking through the speed of sound barrier.

No, it's definitely below Mach 1.0.

This can be seen by freezing the video as the plane is passing the ship; the shockwave (which is visible through condensation resulting from the pressure drop across the shock) can be seen to be formed from the mid fuselage position. There is no shockwave over the canopy, nor in front of the nose. If the plane were truly going supersonic then there would be a standing shock ahead of the nose, and another at the top of the canopy (where the air is accelerated by the thickness of the forward fuselage).

The shock that is visible is caused because the airframe presents its maximum thickness at that point, and so the air is accelerated to pass the aircraft (or the aircraft pass it, it's all the same thing). I would estimate that the plane is probably doing in the region of M0.95-0.96 - still fast enough to generate shocks, but NOT supersonic.

 

[Suki]

Originally posted by MadScot
Unless those wingtips move, landing is going to be amusing - unless you're onboard.

After Boeing's BS spin job with the sonic cruiser I see no reason to see this as other than a purely paper project with zero probability of EVER being built.

the sonic cruiser, I remember hearing about that thing, what ended up happening with it?

did any of you see the popular science article about the pelican

as for the wing tips notice how they curl down on the lun also, I wonder if there's a reason good reason.

and the pelican isn't the only design, there's also the atlantis

 

[CrackedCrystal]

Originally posted by Suki
as for the wing tips notice how they curl down on the lun also, I wonder if there's a reason good reason.

Those fins are to improve the lift capacity of the wings. When an airplane is in flight, there is high pressure below the wing, and low pressure above it. The air from under the wing will "leak" to the top around the tips of the wing. Those fins reduce that "leak" and keep the pressure differential greater, thus creating improved lift.

 

[Phantom Lord]

A human wonder of destruction second to none:

Alexander the Great was probably the greatest phenomenon in the history of warfare ... conquered the known world within 16 years with a - in comparison to his opponents - small army. Strategy combined with discipline made it possible.