Would Ron Paul make a good president?

[MobBoss]

WHAT??? Link please? I'd really like to see what you are talking about considering I personally strongly support Ron Paul.

Never saw the movie? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0889583/

Ron Paul was in it.

Can you please explain this? As a conservative, why would you dislike Ron Paul?

'Cause he is a nutter? And he is more a libertarian than he is a conservative to be honest...and just as nutty as the rest of that group.

 

[The Imp]

Umm... I'm nuttier than ron paul, at least according to you guys i would be.



Or any of 'em.





Read the nt.



I'm surprised you don't support him

nt???

 

[sophie]

Nevermind the fact that things, again, are NEVER so black and white as you like to think, Dommy, I'd have to say it's because Ron Paul is a freaking moron.

'Cause he is a nutter? And he is more a libertarian than he is a conservative to be honest...and just as nutty as the rest of that group.

I win!

 

[GenMarshall]

Or Ralph Nader

Ahh, forgot about that little guy in the footnote in history.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

The one problem with your logic is that NEITHER party is exactly honest, of course, Ron Paul is one of the few exceptions.

Newsflash: There is not one politician on the entire PLANET who is "exactly honest" (by that I assume you mean 100% honest).

In general, Canadians don't suffer from mistaken impressions that politicians are honest. Even the most benevolent person from one's preferred party has skeletons and distasteful compromises somewhere in their closets. We expect this, and vote accordingly.

 

[Perfection]

Newsflash: There is not one PERSON on the entire PLANET who is "exactly honest" (by that I assume you mean 100% honest).

Fixed

 

[LightFang]

The sites point was that America does not have Christianity as a state religion, however, the founders were Christians and had Christian principles in mind when founding the nation.

How do we know that the founders had Christian principles in mind when they founded the nation? Is this what it means to be a Christian nation? It's not that the founders just happened to be Christian (and not all of them! Many were deist!) when they formed a country?

I'm pretty sure Cutlass has.

I'm pretty sure he hasn't.

Yes it is.

You don't get to redefine things for your own purpose.

 

[amadeus]

Could he be any worse than the guy we have now? Probably not.

 

[The Imp]

Could he be any worse than the guy we have now? Probably not.

... You'd be surprised.

 

[Bast]

Ron Paul apostles resurface yet again. This man is old and foolish. He won't stand a chance. And no I'll support anyone over this libertarian loony.

 

[Truronian]

He would make a bad president. He has way to much faith in the free market.

 

[GenMarshall]

Ron Paul....


...unsafe at any speed.

 

[Newbunkle]

For some reason I always get Ron Paul confused with Ron Jeremy.

 

[bombshoo]

For some reason I always get Ron Paul confused with Ron Jeremy.

I just mentally switched them and their jobs in my head.

 

[amadeus]

... You'd be surprised.

As long as he doesn't get his gold standard money and full reserve banking, we'd be in the clear.

 

[bhsup]

And VR is the King of a Banana Republic

I pick Costa Rica!

 

[Rhymes]

I think Ron Paul would be the best possible compromise to both parties, and yet do all the important things to get America in shape.

Things the Liberals will like: He supports the legalization of drugs and gay marriage. He wants the government out of people's personal lives, and he supports pulling out of Iraq, all things the left in general like.

Things the Right-Wingers will like- He supports the state's rights to handle their own affairs, he supports free markets, opposes bills to push government control.

Things both sides SHOULD like- He wants to keep the government to constitutional limits.

Things I like- Nearly everything

Ron Paul is a champion of freedom at all levels, and most liberal complaints about conservatives do not apply to him. I genuinely believe Ron Paul would be the best president since Reagan, possibly better.

So, how many people here support Ron Paul?

You know what your biggest problem is Dom: You think that there are 3 kinds of people in america: liberals, conservatives and libertarians. You might accidently have gotten this idea from watching too much Fox news.

The truth is, there is in reality as much different political/economical views as there are different people.

You say that liberals would support legalisation of drugs, which is COMPLETELY FALSE. So if I'm hearing you right, you think that all of people who voted democrat support drug legalisation? Think about it a bit please.

What you generalise about "right wingers" is even worse.

You have to learn that you can actually think by yourself. Even if you label yourself as a libertarian, you do not have to automatically adopt every belief that you think a "good libertarian" has to. You can actually take each political issue independently and form a single opinion on it, instead it seems as if you reason this way:

"- What would a true libertarian think on that issue ----> I want to be a true libertarian -----> I will then adopt this opinion on the issue."

What you should be doing:

"- What is the issue about^ -----> what are the cause/effects and consequence of both sides of the questions -----> are they in accordance with my own values ----> I will form my opinion accordingly".

Personally, I have these opinions (among lots of others):

- I would have voted Obama
- I support public healthcare
- I support a progressive tax
- I do not support drug legalisation
- I want to have as few laws as possible concerning what people can and can't do
- For example I do not support mandatory seat-belts or bicycle helmets
- I do not support government subsidies to almost anyone

So what would you label me? Maybe I should run for presidency it seems to me like a good compromise between the two.

The sites point was that America does not have Christianity as a state religion, however, the founders were Christians and had Christian principles in mind when founding the nation.
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The founders were also slavers and had slaving principles in mind when founding the nation.

 

[Cutlass]

I wouldn't expect Ron Paul to ever be in serious contention for the Presidency (ie. one of the top two candidates, assumedly vs. a Democrat). But in hypotheticals, it is a decent point to consider.

I do agree Ron Paul is far better from a liberal and a libertarian perspective than a more diehard platform Republican. Paul's a better bet than many Republicans on issues like gay marriage or immigration and so on.

The other thing I think is worth considering is that we're not assuming Paul becomes a dictator with all of his policies implemented. Paul being President would mean just that - he'd still have to deal with Congress and the normal legal processes of government.

So, all things considered, I'd expect a Paul presidency would involve a lot of futile attempts to minimize everything in government (Congress wouldn't just let him eliminate everything or pass real crazy stuff). There could be a few good or bad things that sneak through, he may succeed in cutting military spending or cutting some social programs, and different people will view those events differently. And lastly I would expect he'd steer clear of any poor legislation regarding social issues - probably not a bad Presidency for such freedoms.

Overall that makes him a far better call than most other Republicans, in other words, speaking hypothetically. I'd still vote for a better candidate who wouldn't try to implement crazy economic policy, but at least he's honest about what he's about and likewise we would know what to expect.

That's not true. A little lightening on the social conservatism doesn't make up for extremism on economic conservatism.

I'm pretty sure Cutlass has.

You haven't been paying attention. I argue that there are objective truths. As opposed to your pravda and truthiness, which assumes "truth" is what political agendas want it to be.

 

[MobBoss]

Newsflash: There is not one politician on the entire PLANET who is "exactly honest" (by that I assume you mean 100% honest).

Well....there could be...but who would believe him?

 

[Luckymoose]

Not until I find evidence that America was meant to be a Christian nation. Yes, I still remember. Yes, I'm still holding it against you.

Let the idiots worship and be left behind.