WW2-Global

Overlag,

Thank you for the report and the screenshots.

The sceenshots gives a very good picture of the strategic situation.

Welcome back.
 
s3d said:
Could it be done that Soviet Union invade some weak country before enetering WWII as it was historically ?
Best of all would be Finland. Put it out of Axis alliance in the beggining and give it some small town near the Leningrad. THe question is, how to force it back into alliance with Axis after 1941 ?

Second option - make Manchou-Go a separate state (puppet state of Japan) and let it attack Soviet (emulation of Nomohan incident) But a new country would slow down the game :(

s3d,

Its interesting ideas, but hard to implement within the
current game-engine.

Rocoteh
 
oljb007 said:
man, i wrote such a long playtest yesterday and it didn't post and I lost it.

so here it is, very short and to the point.

Germany 1.7 SID
1940 week 32
House rules: no mobilization and conscripting only from Berlin and stuggart


took turkey way early (recap)

small war with russia, took 4-5 cities then I made piece

then pushed into middle east to break British lines. From there held up and took coopenhagen and last french city, was very tough, lost lots of planes, ~15% total air force.

then went back to work in Africa as Russia and the Allies duked it out. Gifted 90% of all african cities to the french. took all north eastern corner of africa, about 10-12 cities.

Russian Allied war ended I put all tanks and air in turkey and attacked the oil cities. Took 4 cities in the south and one in the north. Just as the war started Russia got the T34. Givign some resitance and slowing my progress.

Brits are loosing ground to japan in India, down 3 cities and china is all but gone, 1 city left i think. Japan is SOSO in the S. Pacific. taken about 5 islands now.

If Japan can hold the russians and their T34's and I can take about 12-15 more russian cities (industrial heartland) I'll call it quits as victory will be imminent and start 1.8.

oljb007,

Thank you for the report.
Its interesting that Japan-AI is doing so well.

Only 3 British cities left in India is not much.
Looking forward to hear from your new playtest.

Welcome back.

Rocoteh
 
eaglefox said:
hey guys i found some really cool leaderheads made by jorde of hitler, stalin, churchill, and mussolini that i think we can use for this scenario.
hitler - http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=109960
stalin - http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=113882
churchill - http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=111752
mussolini - http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=110563
hirohito - http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=116445

eaglefox,

Thank you for the links.

I think some of the leaderheads can be used with the
next graphic expansion.

Rocoteh
 
eaglefox said:
hey rocoteh, have you considered bringing in a golden age in this scenario for nations like russia and US that started outproducing and outperforming the germans and the japanese respectively by the end of 1942. i think this could bring an interesting twist in the scenario if it is introduced properly. perhaps victory by a unit that russia and america recieve after land 1942 could give them a golden age and if we make it last long enough, it might just be able to sieze the initiative from the germans and the japs. this might even give the human players some kind of a challenge. i don't think germans and japanese need to be given a golden age. their production at the start of the war already outshines the allies so they don't need one.
the golden age can be good in the 1941 version that you are thinking of. i read something about it in the barbarossa scenario although i don't know how far this idea went in that game. in my current german version 1.7 game, the US don't seem to have a very impressive production as you might expect from them by this time. they haven't lost a single city yet, actually they have captured one from the japs so its hard to imagine why they are not producing much (russia has lost its major cities- european half in this game long ago so i don't expect too much from them, however they have managed to still keep pace with the americans. in fact they are actually stronger army-wise but have a weaker airforce). maybe a golden age to all the allied nations at the start of 1943 might give them the decisive edge. we could perhaps make it last for the rest of the war, till may 1945.
what do you think?

eaglefox,

I think your idea is interesting.
Its possible I will implement it in version 1.9.

Will make an analyse on which units it shall be connected to
and the duration.

Thank you and welcome back.

Rocoteh
 
On autoproduction.

These cities auto-produce Marines:

Algiers (Frequency 35)
Birmingham (F. 25)
Irkutsk (F. 30)
Rome (F. 35)
Stettin (F. 25)

These cities auto-produce Paratroopers:

Belfast (F. 20)
Munich (F. 20)
Omsk (F.20)
Rabat (F.20)
Taranto (F.20)
Yokohama (F.20)

This city auto-produce U.S. Paratroopers:

Charleston: (F.15)

This city auto-produce British Commandos:

Ottawa: (F.35)

This city auto-produce British Tank-Brigades:

Edinburgh: (F.7)

Rocoteh
 
Rocoteh, Germany should start with at least one para trooper. They were used for the first time relative early in France and Belgium (Eben- Emael).
I will try the coming version next week.

Adler
 
Adler17 said:
Rocoteh, Germany should start with at least one para trooper. They were used for the first time relative early in France and Belgium (Eben- Emael).
I will try the coming version next week.

Adler

Adler,

Yes, you are right!
Change will be implemented in version 1.9.

Welcome back.

Rocoteh
 
Rocoteh said:
oljb007,

Thank you for the report.
Its interesting that Japan-AI is doing so well.

Only 3 British cities left in India is not much.
Looking forward to hear from your new playtest.

Welcome back.

Rocoteh

small correction. British India has only lost 3 cities to the japanesse, but they are collapsing. ;)
 
- I agree with eaglefox in giving Russia and US a Golden Age around 1942. That could be done by giving them a specific unit during that year.

- Regarding leatherheads, I only liked Hirohito and Mussolini, for the other ones don´t seem to be nothing like the real faces. But that´s of course my opinion. :mischief: If someone is to be ofended by certain faces, you could use flags, like in the Napoleon scenario that comes with the game.

I want to try this scenario but I see you release versions very quickly so once I see you leave a version for a while, I´ll start playtesting it.

I´d like to play Argentina but, unfortunately, someone said it´s impossible to achieve something else than conquering South America. :(
 
Hamah said:
- I agree with eaglefox in giving Russia and US a Golden Age around 1942. That could be done by giving them a specific unit during that year.

- Regarding leatherheads, I only liked Hirohito and Mussolini, for the other ones don´t seem to be nothing like the real faces. But that´s of course my opinion. :mischief: If someone is to be ofended by certain faces, you could use flags, like in the Napoleon scenario that comes with the game.

I want to try this scenario but I see you release versions very quickly so once I see you leave a version for a while, I´ll start playtesting it.

I´d like to play Argentina but, unfortunately, someone said it´s impossible to achieve something else than conquering South America. :(

Hamah,

The next version of WW2-Global will be a special AI version:
Germany versus Allied-AI with heavily reinforced OOB:s.

Since I will be away a majority of the days in May, without
computer and Internet-connection, I do not think version 1.9 will
be released before the end of that month.

Rocoteh
 
I like those leaderheads. I am not offended and would like to see them implemented.

I try not to put my values on other people, but I would remind them that we study history in the hopes to learn from our mistakes and not be doomed to repeat it. With that in mind, forgetting the faces associated with that attrocity is the first step in "forgetting"
 
oljb007 said:
I like those leaderheads. I am not offended and would like to see them implemented.

I try not to put my values on other people, but I would remind them that we study history in the hopes to learn from our mistakes and not be doomed to repeat it. With that in mind, forgetting the faces associated with that attrocity is the first step in "forgetting"

oljb007,

That is no doubt an important aspect of the problem.

Rocoteh
 
You'd make me very happy if you implemented the flag leaderheads, Rocoteh, since I've been suggesting that since you released the scenario... I believe recon1591 said you could use the ones from SOE...

Or you could use jorde's leaderheads for the major nations and flags for the minors...

Thanks for including me in the credits for 1.8, BTW... :)
 
P.S.Y.C.H.O. said:
You'd make me very happy if you implemented the flag leaderheads, Rocoteh, since I've been suggesting that since you released the scenario... I believe recon1591 said you could use the ones from SOE...

Or you could use jorde's leaderheads for the major nations and flags for the minors...

Thanks for including me in the credits for 1.8, BTW... :)

P.S.Y.C.H.O.,

Yes, I will probably use the flag leaderheads you mention. (SOE)
I have had those in mind for the next graphic expansion.

Rocoteh
 
Rocoteh,

Update on Ver 1.7 Britain SID

Week 51, 1942

Completed the conquest of Manchuria and sent a smmal force to capture Yakutsk and Dzhyusal in order to cut off far-eastern Siberia from the rest of Russia.

Then turned to attack northwest into central Asia. My intermediate obective here was to seize the 3 uranium depsoits in Central Asia and deny them to the USSR and Germany. The only other uranium deposit available to Germany is in Norway (I think), whiich is easily covered by bombing.

The Central Asian offensive went well with British forces capturing Irkutsk, Krasnoyarsk, Vorogovo, and Novosibirsk.

Simultaneous attacks captured Urumtsi and Kasgar from the Germans and Tashkent, Lepsinsk, and ALma Ata from the Russians.

After a brief pause to regroup the offensive continued to take Turkestan, Aralsk, Magniotogorsk, Aktavskoe, Kuybyshev, Chelyabinsk, and Sverdlovsk. Attacks were captured in rapid sequence in order to prevent the Russians from regrouping or the Germans from moving in.

These offensives have resulted in separate British forces converging on each other and forming a very powerful force in central Russia ready to complete the conquest of Russia and take on Germany. Plus with Germany denied access to uranium ( I think) I don't have to worry about them getting nukes.

The conquest of China, Manchuria and Centrral Asia also add considerably to British production capacity, which is now working overtime.

The Red Army is pretty well destroyed, so taking the remaining Soviet cities should not be hard.

Germany is still strong: 17 Pz Grenadier Divs, 49 Stug III Divs, 21 SS Panzer Divs, 17 SS Inf Divs, 94 FW 190's. 143 Me 262, 12 ME 109, 63 He 219, 1 He 177, 32 Flak, 35 Infantry, 1 Hindenburg, 3 VII U-boats, 1 IX U-boat, 6 DDF, 26 Garrison.

Against this the British have:
32 Marine Divs, 27 paratroop Divs, 113 Inf Divs, 22 Anzac Divs, 92 HMG Divs, 188 Armored Divs (Comet, Chruchill, Cromwell Crusader, Matilda), 52 Mobile Artillery Divs, 3 Heavy artillery, 11 Artillery, 65 Flak, 346 Spitfires, 4 Hurricanes 15 Skua, 10 Bristol, 4 Halifax, 3 Mosquito, 29 Typhoon, 162 Lancasters, 3 BB, 2 Battlecruisers, 6 CV, 4 CA, 18 LC, 33 King George V BB's, 17 subs, 11 transport.

Although Germany still has th enominal advantage of internal lines of communication, this is now offset by several British advantages. with British control of the sea secured by 33 KG V BB's, Germany has a long coastline to protect from a respectably strong force of Royal Marines. Coastal improvements are aslo subject to strong naval bombardment.

With the conquest of Central Asia and the eviction of Japanese forces from the Asian continent, Britain has now only one land front on which it can cencentrate all its ground and air forces. Only minimal garrisons are required elswhere since Germany cannot get any transports to sea. Japan is no threat, and US forces have even occupied one of the cites on the Japanese main island.

The main German obstacle is it's huge fighter force, 143 ME 262's, and 63 He 219's. Against these are 346 Spitfires, with more on the way. However, I would rather have Germany building fighters than SS Panzer Divisions.

Although Bob1475 urged me not to go after before Germany, I felt I should take the opportunity which presented itself. Being able to destroy the bulk of the REd Army in Manchura/Siberia was also a stoke of luck. Although the battle against Germany has been deferred I believe the conomic advantage that Britain has accrued more than compensates. And up until now I am not sure Britain has had the combat power to go after Germany while it still had to keep forces facing Japan and Russia..

Grizx
 

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