WW2-Global
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oljb007 said:
oljb007,
Thank you.
My motivation for scenario-creation have increased during the
last weeks and I hope to complete a 1941 version of this scenario,
WW3-Global (with El Justo) and Europe 1941 (with Sarevok) before
this year have ended.
Rocoteh
eaglefox
Chhatrapati
hey - thanks. yeah i know about the power plants. i did read that somewhere here. but the war-time stuff was new to me, and a great relief at that. now i can give the russian production some challenge.Bob1475 said:
eaglefox
Chhatrapati
oljb007
thanks for the advice. my approach towards the war till now has been very cautious in that case. but i wanted to time the invasion of russia exactly when Hitler did, week 21, 1941. the one thing that happened in my game that i didn't expect was italy getting kicked out of africa by mid 1940. it completely scrapped my plans for invading africa, which is good in a way as i had something to fight with against russia.
Bob1475 just told me that war-time production has no neagative impact. you can still make all the improvements in a city. you might wanna turn that on. no reason to keep it off.
thanks for the advice. my approach towards the war till now has been very cautious in that case. but i wanted to time the invasion of russia exactly when Hitler did, week 21, 1941. the one thing that happened in my game that i didn't expect was italy getting kicked out of africa by mid 1940. it completely scrapped my plans for invading africa, which is good in a way as i had something to fight with against russia.
Bob1475 just told me that war-time production has no neagative impact. you can still make all the improvements in a city. you might wanna turn that on. no reason to keep it off.
vlad1917_a said:
"I think If you put railroad movement to let say Not unlimited it will slow down entire campaing. I was able to fight on 5 diferent directons and it gives huge effect on result.
I fight together on Russia, France, Africa France, Africa Britain, and India. You have 4 tiles for road, unlimited for railroad. If you reduce it to 3 road and 10 railroad it could be more realistic." vlad1917_a
vlad1917_a,
A very fast victory!
On the Panzergrenadier: Thank you for reporting the bug.
I will check it out.
On railroads: This can not be changed with the editor.
Thank you for the report and welcome back.
Rocoteh
oljb007,
"took Minsk and two cities on the black sea, one of which had 39 subs (Rocoteh--isn't it odd to have 40 subs in a port that is landlocked? that is probably why russia goes after turkey, trying to get her subs a route to open sea)" oljb007
Yes, but so was the situation September 1939.
"US doesn't get involved in european theatre. There is a US airbase south of wales however, US never bombs or attacks Germany via air. is it too far to "relocate" to that base and or is the air field to far from germany for the US planes? (part of me thinks that the game can be decided before US gets up and running. I'll see in my game)"
oljb007
I will see if there is anything I can do to change this.
"Japan AI (special version) is amazing and makes a B-line for india in everygame I have played; goes for the south pacific but the focus is obviously on India" oljb007
Its really a surprise!
"btw--we discussed the implementations of the Ural mountains back in the day and you said it would be implemented in the next map change. any thoughts on that?"
The Ural mountains are present in version 1.8, but there will be changes in 1.9.
Thank you and welcome back.
Rocoteh
"took Minsk and two cities on the black sea, one of which had 39 subs (Rocoteh--isn't it odd to have 40 subs in a port that is landlocked? that is probably why russia goes after turkey, trying to get her subs a route to open sea)" oljb007
Yes, but so was the situation September 1939.
"US doesn't get involved in european theatre. There is a US airbase south of wales however, US never bombs or attacks Germany via air. is it too far to "relocate" to that base and or is the air field to far from germany for the US planes? (part of me thinks that the game can be decided before US gets up and running. I'll see in my game)"
oljb007
I will see if there is anything I can do to change this.
"Japan AI (special version) is amazing and makes a B-line for india in everygame I have played; goes for the south pacific but the focus is obviously on India" oljb007
Its really a surprise!
"btw--we discussed the implementations of the Ural mountains back in the day and you said it would be implemented in the next map change. any thoughts on that?"
The Ural mountains are present in version 1.8, but there will be changes in 1.9.
Thank you and welcome back.
Rocoteh
oljb007 said:Germany vs AI (special version)
wk 34 1940
No war-time economy
no stealing techs
conscripting from Berlin and Hamburg ONLY!
The Nile flows red with the blood of the English and the French! Taking Egypt was probably one of the smartest things I did. It bisected the English area of control, seperating Africa from the middle east and India. All the reinforcements that would have gone to India to stop the Japanesse never made it past Luxor. It hasn't been a cake walk mind you, but my original force has lasted nearly 6 montsh there without the need for reinforcements! (were talking 5-7 panzers and a 5-7 88's with a couple of Inf and a couple of ME110's, holding 5 cities!)
The taking of Al Algiers in French Moroco has had the same effect!
As for Russia, its been nothing but victory! Russia finally started building T-34's in week 29 and build them she did! First turn 9, second turn 19, third turn 42, fourth or fifth turn was 60+ and this is ontop of me destroying every T-34 in sight! Now she is back down to 40+ after a major luftwaffe offensive against them. Caught site of a major convoy and hit the roads slowing them down so the next turn I could hit them!
I think its week 34 of 1940 and the battle for Moscow has just begun! The Eastern front consists of Krasnodor, Grozny, stalingrad, tula, Novogrod, smolensk and Kanin (sp?) (exactly the same pics as Eaglefox) I have about 44 Panzers! Moscow will either fall by the end of this turn or the next for sure. I just took two cities in this turn and am not sure if we'll have enought to take Moscow.
Japan took one russian city and razed it and nothing more! Japan has slowed down but that could be due to fighting with Russia. She is still expanding a little in the S. Pacific and 1-2 more mountanous cities in India.
The Atlantic is going well. Wolf packs oerating out of Brest under the cover of a Bismarc and an AA cruiser destroy almost every convoy leaving the UK heading south. I resolve to only have 2 bismarc's at a time, the Tirpitz and the Bismarc. I just lost the Tirpitz in port at breast to air bombing. The "Bismarc" is operating out of Girbratler picking up what is missed from Brest adn the occasional US convoy. I also send wolf packs to Canada but their success rate isn't what it should be. I am going to replace the Tirpitz and then build a Genesiau class battleship and send it with a wolf pack to canada to try and maintain a presence in that theatre.
The T-34's didn't swing the battle as much I had expected so my offensive continues at a feverish pace just with a little more thought on defensive positioning and luftwaffe cover. At this rate I figure by November 1940 I should have taken most if not all of the Russian industrial cities thus negating her ability to amass any significant force. As a result peace can be made and our attention turned towards other targets. I haven't given this aspect much thought as the Russian front is far from won! However, it is basically a coin toss between hitting the UK or expanding control in North Africa!
Africa is the easier target but only has a few cities that can quickly turn into significant manufacturing centes. Unfortuneately it expands the defensive position significantly. I would probably have to triple the amount of 88's I currently have to even modestly protect that much real estate.
The UK on the other hand is an island fortress! but there are huge manufacturing cities there all close together and easy to defend... the dilema.
oljb007,
Yes, the attack on Egypt must have been a very good move!
Soviet will have incredible amounts of armour once its production
have left initial levels. Despite that I think you have a established a strong postion Russia.
A good strategy for the Atlantic it seems!
I would choose to crush Soviet before going for Africa I think.
Thank you and welcome back.
Rocoteh
oljb007
Warlord
eaglefox said:
IE died and now I have to retype this...
the game engine combined with the start date and locked alliances causes problems with keeping in line with the actual time line. Right off the start you're at war with France. Secondly, if you wait to start war with Russia to any time close to reality then its way off. Germany rolled over Russia due to tech, but in the game russia would have tons of T-34's which was not the case. As a result I tried to time my invasion based upon the Russian's getting the tech to build the T-34.
Rocotehs '41 version will improve on these issues quite a bit I think.
I know about war time production but its a personal preference to leave it off.
oljb007
Warlord
outcast said:
That's a good point. The only consideration you need to give them is air defense as the RAF has the potential to cause some problems.
oljb007
Warlord
Eaglefox--
Rocoteh
Another thing to keep in mind Eaglefox is that one of the major mistakes Germany made in the war was starting it so late in the summer. the onset of Winter was a bigger challenge to the Germans than the russian army at that time. However, that bought the Russians time to re-arm.
On that note, I was considering implementing some kind of house rule in my curernt game to restrict my offensive abilities to try and emulate the "winter" aspect. I am debating something along the lines of limiting myself to attacking with only 25% of my force during the winter months. I am thinking approximately week 36 or 39 to about week 15 of the following year.
In my game its week 34 and that battle of moscow has just started. The Introduction of the T-34 hasn't really impacted my advance all that much. So the "winter aspect" may be just what the russian AI needs to at least get off her heals! Had I thought of this before I would have started the offensive sooner, as a result the outcome may well mimick that of Hitlers mistakes, starting the war too late in the summer, (week 21 for me) but oh well, it will make it exciting.
jb
Rocoteh
Another thing to keep in mind Eaglefox is that one of the major mistakes Germany made in the war was starting it so late in the summer. the onset of Winter was a bigger challenge to the Germans than the russian army at that time. However, that bought the Russians time to re-arm.
On that note, I was considering implementing some kind of house rule in my curernt game to restrict my offensive abilities to try and emulate the "winter" aspect. I am debating something along the lines of limiting myself to attacking with only 25% of my force during the winter months. I am thinking approximately week 36 or 39 to about week 15 of the following year.
In my game its week 34 and that battle of moscow has just started. The Introduction of the T-34 hasn't really impacted my advance all that much. So the "winter aspect" may be just what the russian AI needs to at least get off her heals! Had I thought of this before I would have started the offensive sooner, as a result the outcome may well mimick that of Hitlers mistakes, starting the war too late in the summer, (week 21 for me) but oh well, it will make it exciting.
jb
Two other things I notice about the AI:
1.) At the start, the british send some of their battleships to bombard the minefield north of denmark, but it never has enough movement points to make it back. Not only that, they are left with one one or maybe a stack of two battleships. That makes them fairly easy targets. I soften them up with the Luftwaffe, then finish them off with either the Scharnhorst or the Genisenau. Of course my battleships can make it back to one of the minefields. I sent 2 or 3 of them to the bottom before it stopped doing that.
2.) The American AI constantly sends attack groups over, but they always run out of movement points just before they get to my fleet. So almost every single one of theirs is slaughtered. They send nothing for a while (appearently building some more). Then they send over a few more and they get slaughtered too! Are the navy commanders on drugs? I sent 2/3 of the american navy to the bottom because of this, and they still do it. Is there anyway to make it stop doing this?
EDIT: And the AI should know better since it should be able to see my units (one of its cheats).
EDIT2: I dont want to seem like I am spamming your thread, but I'm just posting these observations/questions as I think of them.
1.) At the start, the british send some of their battleships to bombard the minefield north of denmark, but it never has enough movement points to make it back. Not only that, they are left with one one or maybe a stack of two battleships. That makes them fairly easy targets. I soften them up with the Luftwaffe, then finish them off with either the Scharnhorst or the Genisenau. Of course my battleships can make it back to one of the minefields. I sent 2 or 3 of them to the bottom before it stopped doing that.
2.) The American AI constantly sends attack groups over, but they always run out of movement points just before they get to my fleet. So almost every single one of theirs is slaughtered. They send nothing for a while (appearently building some more). Then they send over a few more and they get slaughtered too! Are the navy commanders on drugs? I sent 2/3 of the american navy to the bottom because of this, and they still do it. Is there anyway to make it stop doing this?
EDIT: And the AI should know better since it should be able to see my units (one of its cheats).
EDIT2: I dont want to seem like I am spamming your thread, but I'm just posting these observations/questions as I think of them.
oljb007
Warlord
outcast said:
nobody minds, that is what this is for! However!!!! always seems to be a however, or a but. I would suggest downloading the entire thread to you computer then doing quick searches through it with the "find" feature before you post if you are worried about what you are posting. I do that occasionally for things i mention just in case its old news!
eric_A
Deity
outcast said:
Outcast:
The AI is just terrible at planning amphibious invasions. It also does not learn
from it's past mistakes.
The way to fix the problem is to get into a PBEM with some human players.
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