WW2-Global

[oljb007]

I have noted Japan consistently does better in the Germany vs AI special version. This does not make much sense to me since Russia, Britain and France are beefed up but not Japan. Or is it?

Any idea why Japan is so much more agressive and successful in this version?

--Every time I have seen them they do very well and most of that success comes at the expense of India! It would be nice to see them focus a little more on the S. Pacific.

Early on in my game Japan's military success was comparable to mine!

 

[oljb007]

For all those who want a challenge!

give this winter house rule a try. I makes it a lot harder.

When attacking Russia only use 25-30% of in-theatre units to attack. I take 25-30% of each unit type, not the whole army as that is too dificult, this is quick and rough approximations. This should simulate the difficulties the germans had with the Siberian Winter!

 

[Yor53]

When I try to play the scenario after choosing the Germans it will load up to a black map screen and then freezes. What could be wrong?
Roy

 

[Bob1475]

Yor - This is a HUGE scenario. It will take a long time to load up on your machine depending on how powerful it is. Suggest you read a book for a while - check back after 25 minutes and every 10 minutes thereafter.

Alternatively play one of the saved games.

 

[Proserpine]

Agreed. Yor,you don't say what machine/settings you have, but this is enormous. It takes ages to fully load oneven the fastest machine. Bob has it right, keep checkingeverynow and then. Or you can load one of the saved games, that saves some time.

 

[Yor53]

Thnaks, I will be more patience and try again.
Roy

 

[eaglefox]

Germany vs AI - Sid Level
Week 39, 1941

Russian forces now seem to be in turmoil. Germany has finally taken control over the land situation as they now have more tanks on the field than the Russians. And the Russians have not been able to retake their original advantage in numbers for the last two turns. The Luftwaffe continues to pound the Russian positions but is experiencing fierce resistance from the Russian fighters. Fortunately the Luftwaffe has enough Me-109s on the front to destroy most fighters the Russians can field. A major offensive is being planned but I don't think I am going to attack Moscow if I am unable to take out the fortresses. Plus there are also other citites that I can take, so its still quite open. The Germans currently have 70 tanks, 60 infantry, and 90 aircrafts on the front compared to 51 T-34s, 7 KV-1s, 40 Mig 3s, 25 Pe-8s, 140 infantry, and a few other aircrafts and Mot. Rifle divs. on the field. I don't think I am going to ask them for peace anymore as I clearly have the advantage now. I'll try to push as much as I can, an my mid 1942, I think I should be able to open another front in the middle east against the Brits. Speaking of the Brits they sent about 10-12 Matildas into Turkey, but most of them have been dealt with. Hopefully this will atleast partially relieve the Japs and we should be seeing more action from them. Their performance so far has been quite lacklustre. They have continuously lost land the past year. They now also have lost their city on the Sakhalin Is. (Russian front). The Italians as can be imagined have nothing to fight with. I am just surprised they still hold their Mediterranean positions. All-in-all it seems the good times are finally coming back for the Germans and hopefully the tide will also turn for the Japs. Once they become strong they can really hurt.

 

[Rocoteh]

Still can't download the main file... please let me know where else i can get it.

practice,

This is the only place where you can download it.

Rocoteh

 

[Rocoteh]

I have noted Japan consistently does better in the Germany vs AI special version. This does not make much sense to me since Russia, Britain and France are beefed up but not Japan. Or is it?

Any idea why Japan is so much more agressive and successful in this version?

Bob1475,

Japans strenght have not been increased in any way, so
its a mystery!

Rocoteh

 

[Rocoteh]

eaglefox,

Thank you for the playtest-reports. They are very interesting.

As you say, with Germany ahead in terms of tank-units,
it should now be able to control the situation.

I am really looking forward to follow how this playtest turns out.

Thank you and welcome back.

Rocoteh

 

[Rocoteh]

For all those who want a challenge!

give this winter house rule a try. I makes it a lot harder.

When attacking Russia only use 25-30% of in-theatre units to attack. I take 25-30% of each unit type, not the whole army as that is too dificult, this is quick and rough approximations. This should simulate the difficulties the germans had with the Siberian Winter!

oljb007,

Thank you for the reports.

I think your special rules are very interesting!
Looking forward to follow how much impact they will have
on the scenario.

Thank you and welcome back.

Rocoteh

 

[Rocoteh]

When I try to play the scenario after choosing the Germans it will load up to a black map screen and then freezes. What could be wrong?
Roy

Yor53,

With 1 MB RAM and 3 GHz it will probably take 30 minutes to load.
You can instead use the saved games as an alternative.

Rocoteh

 

[Lars_Klemetsen]

Thank you, thank you, thank you for creating this magnifisant sortie!!!

 

[Rocoteh]

Thank you, thank you, thank you for creating this magnifisant sortie!!!

Thank you.
I hope you will be back with more comments on the scenario.

Rocoteh

 

[oljb007]

Rocoteh,

Something I continually forget to mention in my "special version" is that Mexico declared war on the United states early on! Mexico got taken out and is mainly controlled by the US and a few citites belonging to Great Britain.

 

[oljb007]

Rocoteh,

playtest report for you--

Winter let up week 15 of 1941! Russia lost 2-3 cities every turn for the next 3 weeks. When I got in range I hit the oil fields just east of the Southern Urals, no more T-34's. I stopped my offensive after taking the Ural mountains, one more last northern city then we'll shore up and debate peace. This way Japan can "focus" a little more as the russian front has really slowed japanese progress. Not sure I want to do this with Japan or not as they are highly aggressive and doing quite well.

The North Atlantic is basically mine as the rogue, antiquated US navy makes hit and runs here and there. I am currently in pursuit of about 25 subs making spead to the gulf of mexico. Got there attention with a battleship there bombarding oil fields in texas. I have a moderate contigent of subs waiting there for them and a couple type IX's in pursuit, actually 1 is right in there wolf pack but they dont attack! :S

North africa--The french traded for oil and now the tanks are back! I took Dungalo and that put me in range of the UK air and they have been pretty fierce but i am holding. I moved some 110's and heinkels to el algiers and other african cities and started tearing up the roads to try and reduce the amount of tanks they can build.

I am debating my next move. Either africa or great britain! I am leaning towards both! While the air war wages over britain the Panzers will see what they can do in North africa.

All in all really good. I think the one aspect that is still missing is the US bombing over Germany. I believe there was a US airbase out of iceland during the war, there were P51 mustangs based there with the new "drop tanks" that allowed them to cover the "black gap" i think they called it for escort protection from wolf packs. so maybe putting some air fields along the North atlantic would coax the AI to move its planes to the UK air field? or maybe giving the US a citie there, size 1. Or maybe even giving the US another airfield closer to Germany in the Great Britain. I know that will mess up the tile resources for a city!

the battleship i sent to the gulf of mexico encountered heavy bombing so I know they got planes available! and my spy tells me they have a lot of planes.

And the US AI sending unprotected C3 carriers just ins't cutting it!

what we really need, is an AI Upgrade! lol

keep up the good work Rocoteh!

ps, 1941 version? wip?, eta?

 

[Rocoteh]

oljb007,

Thank you for the report and comments.

"Something I continually forget to mention in my "special version" is that Mexico declared war on the United states early on! Mexico got taken out and is mainly controlled by the US and a few citites belonging to Great Britain." oljb007

I wish there was a "never declare war option" in the editor.

"Winter let up week 15 of 1941! Russia lost 2-3 cities every turn for the next 3 weeks. When I got in range I hit the oil fields just east of the Southern Urals, no more T-34's. I stopped my offensive after taking the Ural mountains, one more last northern city then we'll shore up and debate peace." oljb007

Sounds very good!

"Not sure I want to do this with Japan or not as they are highly aggressive and doing quite well." oljb007

That is interesting.

"I am debating my next move. Either africa or great britain! I am leaning towards both! While the air war wages over britain the Panzers will see what they can do in North africa." oljb007

It should probably work.

"I think the one aspect that is still missing is the US bombing over Germany. I believe there was a US airbase out of iceland during the war, there were P51 mustangs based there with the new "drop tanks" that allowed them to cover the "black gap" i think they called it for escort protection from wolf packs. so maybe putting some air fields along the North atlantic would coax the AI to move its planes to the UK air field? or maybe giving the US a citie there, size 1. Or maybe even giving the US another airfield closer to Germany in the Great Britain. I know that will mess up the tile resources for a city!" oljb007

Yes. I think you are right. I will see what I can do to better reflect this
aspect of WW2.

"And the US AI sending unprotected C3 carriers just ins't cutting it!

what we really need, is an AI Upgrade! lol"oljb007

AI is real problem. One can only hope for Civ 4.

"keep up the good work Rocoteh!

ps, 1941 version? wip?, eta?"oljb007

Thank you. The last days I have been working with WW3-Global (joint project with
El Justo). The map is based on WW2-Global.

Unit scale is:

Ground units: Divisions and in the case of US and Germany brigades also.

Air units: Squadrons. That is 10-25 planes.

Ships: One ship unit = 1 Ship.

ICBM: 25 missiles = 1 ICBM unit.

Start date is January 1, 2007. 1 = 2 weeks

US is really the only superpower! Thus to create play-balance will need
some work. Russia and China will be an locked alliance. Germany, France and
Italy will form another locked alliance.
I have now placed all US forces and it looks good!

Tomorrow I will work on the 1941 version of WW2-Global.

My earlier intention was to withdraw from scenario-creation if Civ 4 did
not had any important new to offer.

My current position though is to continue with scenario-creation as long
there are interesting scenarios to make with Civ 3.

Thank you and welcome back.

Rocoteh

 

[Adler17]

Rocoteh, I had the hope you took the bigger map for ww3Global. That is no good news. Everything else sounds very good. What are the UU you want to introduce?
Concerning ww2 global: I think the next upgrade should be made when SOE is out and we are allowed to use the units. Then a huge upgrade should be made followed by a huge 1941 version.

Adler

 

[Rocoteh]

Rocoteh, I had the hope you took the bigger map for ww3Global. That is no good news. Everything else sounds very good. What are the UU you want to introduce?
Concerning ww2 global: I think the next upgrade should be made when SOE is out and we are allowed to use the units. Then a huge upgrade should be made followed by a huge 1941 version.

Adler

Adler,

WW2-Global with big map may still have priority over WW3-Global though.
What to do with future tech in WW3-Global is still an unsolved problem
that may put the project on ice.

On UU: Still open.

On graphic upgrade: Yes, it will have to wait.

Rocoteh

 

[Rocoteh]

Number of Civs will be heavily reduced in WW2-Global 1941 which
hopefully should increase game-speed.

Thus Poland, Yugoslavia, Greece, Denmark,Norway,Belgium
and Netherlands are occupied by Germany when the scenario starts.
Colonys that belong to Netherlands and Belgium will be British control.

The Civs in Latin America will be reduced to:

Brazil, Argentina-Chile and Latin America (including Mexico).

Portugal will be a part of Spain-Portugal.

Communist-China will be a part of China.

No decision yet if "Vichy-France" should be added.
The European part of it was occupied by Germany November 11 1942.

If I include "Vichy-France" it will only have garrison-units.
The reason is that in reality the Vichy-forces seldom fought for
any long time when confronted with Western Allied units.

Rocoteh