WW2-Global

It will be interesting to see how Japan AI does in other play tests.your right Japan has it rough at first compared to the other major powers but by 1941 they picked up steam in the last version and was doing very well.I like the challenge you have to be tactical and have a good strategy to overcome the difficultys in the begining.keeping your naval fleet intact and not dukeing it out with the US in the beginning is key for me.

dferrill,

Yes to use the forces at hand when the scenario
starts in a relevant way should be crucial.

Rocoteh
 
Found another mistake that seems to persist every time a new version is released.

The infamous German 88 is firing the wrong direction...you need to unflag the rotate before attack flag...and then all problems will be solved..
 
It will be interesting to see how Japan AI does in other play tests.your right Japan has it rough at first compared to the other major powers but by 1941 they picked up steam in the last version and was doing very well.I like the challenge you have to be tactical and have a good strategy to overcome the difficultys in the begining.keeping your naval fleet intact and not dukeing it out with the US in the beginning is key for me.

My last game before I downloaded 2.4 was a 2.2 Japan game. I have always enjoyed playing Japan in this scenario, in part because they peak so early unit-wise. Their units aren't as weak as Italy's, but the lack of a really good defensive unit forces a very aggressive approach. For Japan more than for any of the other civs I've played, a vigorous, consistent offense is the best possible defense.

Japan also has the most consistent air cover in the game prior to 1944 air technology. The operational range of 8 for the Zero and the Ki-43 is extremely valuable, and since most cities are within 4 squares of another city,(the range for air superiority is half the operational range), Japan can establish very effective overlapping air superiority. This starts to fade as the Americans get bombers that can survive even the Ki-43 on a regular basis, but by then Japan needs to have some troops in the Americas or they are going to have a very difficult time of it.

In my 2.2 game as Japan, I held all of China, all of India, Afghanistan, Persia, the Middle East, Turkey, the Mediterranean coast of Africa, all of the Pacific Islands including Hawaii, and Australia. I also held Panama and was beginning to conquer Mexico, but the incredible resistance from the Americans and a sudden war with the Soviet Union (which had taken Poland and Czechoslovakia from the Germans in addition to conquering Yugoslavia and Greece) made things uncertain. Even with the Type 3 tanks coming online, it was going to be hard to do battle with advanced US and Soviet troops.

Gattamelata
 
Gattamelata[HTML said:
[/HTML];4906373]My last game before I downloaded 2.4 was a 2.2 Japan game. I have always enjoyed playing Japan in this scenario, in part because they peak so early unit-wise. Their units aren't as weak as Italy's, but the lack of a really good defensive unit forces a very aggressive approach. For Japan more than for any of the other civs I've played, a vigorous, consistent offense is the best possible defense.

Japan also has the most consistent air cover in the game prior to 1944 air technology. The operational range of 8 for the Zero and the Ki-43 is extremely valuable, and since most cities are within 4 squares of another city,(the range for air superiority is half the operational range), Japan can establish very effective overlapping air superiority. This starts to fade as the Americans get bombers that can survive even the Ki-43 on a regular basis, but by then Japan needs to have some troops in the Americas or they are going to have a very difficult time of it.

In my 2.2 game as Japan, I held all of China, all of India, Afghanistan, Persia, the Middle East, Turkey, the Mediterranean coast of Africa, all of the Pacific Islands including Hawaii, and Australia. I also held Panama and was beginning to conquer Mexico, but the incredible resistance from the Americans and a sudden war with the Soviet Union (which had taken Poland and Czechoslovakia from the Germans in addition to conquering Yugoslavia and Greece) made things uncertain. Even with the Type 3 tanks coming online, it was going to be hard to do battle with advanced US and Soviet troops.

Gattamelata

Gattamelata,

Thank you for your comments and observations.

They are all interesting.

Will for sure have them in mind when its time for version 2.5
and the special AI versions.

Rocoteh
 
Sorry interrupt your discussion..

I've just begun playing this scenario, it's really cool! Im playing as Great Britain, and have already had some serious navalbattles.

But I have a few questions:
why is there af Fortress unit in Tobruk? It makes it almost impossible to do anything in Afrika, at least when you're playing GB. Is it because some of the later units are able to defeat this monster (80 in defense!)? even with the air and naval bombardements it's hard to bring it down.

Another question:
Is it possible to make changes to the civilopedia, and how do you do it (never tried moding before..)? It could be nice if you could se what kinds of abilties the units have. For example what kind of ships are able to see the submarines (I know the destroyers can, but what about the other ships?)

Hope someone will answer my newbie questions...
 
I will start a play test as Germany later today.

Happy Chrismahanukwanzakah all.:lol:
 
Sorry interrupt your discussion..

I've just begun playing this scenario, it's really cool! Im playing as Great Britain, and have already had some serious navalbattles.

But I have a few questions:
why is there af Fortress unit in Tobruk? It makes it almost impossible to do anything in Afrika, at least when you're playing GB. Is it because some of the later units are able to defeat this monster (80 in defense!)? even with the air and naval bombardements it's hard to bring it down.

Another question:
Is it possible to make changes to the civilopedia, and how do you do it (never tried moding before..)? It could be nice if you could se what kinds of abilties the units have. For example what kind of ships are able to see the submarines (I know the destroyers can, but what about the other ships?)

Hope someone will answer my newbie questions...

neldor,

I see no discussion interupted.

On Tobruk:

There was a fortress in Tobruk that was very important.
I think the balance in North Africa is quite good.

On the civilopedia:

Yes you can make changes. Check out the general Civ 3 C&C for
more info.

Rocoteh
 
Roco! Help me! :D

I'm really looking forward to playing this but I can't get it to work.
I've got both the files unzipped and sitting in my "Scenarios" folder...but I only see the "WW2 Global" folder in the in-game 'Load Scenario' menu (along with the Earth Huge and Earth Standard ones that are always there).

In your instructions you mention something about a 'Conquests' folder?
There isn't anything with 'Conquest' in it's name inside my Civ folder...

Also, the Earth Huge/Earth Standard are both .bic. This one is .biq...Is that how it's supposed to be?

I'd appreciate any help you can give me....Thanks.
I'll check back here, or check my mailbox (graeme-kennedy@hotmail.com) for some help from you (or anyone else). Thanks a bunch and happy holidays!
(Perhaps you could post a screenshot of what your scenario folder looks like with the stuff inside it?)
 
Mr. Lazerthingamabob: I assume you've got the Conquests expansion pack? This scenario requires it to run.

Edit: From what you said about the lack of a Conquests folder and about the .bics, I think not. I'm afraid you'll need the expansion pack to play this properly.
 
Roco! Help me! :D

I'm really looking forward to playing this but I can't get it to work.
I've got both the files unzipped and sitting in my "Scenarios" folder...but I only see the "WW2 Global" folder in the in-game 'Load Scenario' menu (along with the Earth Huge and Earth Standard ones that are always there).

In your instructions you mention something about a 'Conquests' folder?
There isn't anything with 'Conquest' in it's name inside my Civ folder...

Also, the Earth Huge/Earth Standard are both .bic. This one is .biq...Is that how it's supposed to be?

I'd appreciate any help you can give me....Thanks.
I'll check back here, or check my mailbox (graeme-kennedy@hotmail.com) for some help from you (or anyone else). Thanks a bunch and happy holidays!
(Perhaps you could post a screenshot of what your scenario folder looks like with the stuff inside it?)

Lazerzpewpew,

You can not play this scenario (and most other scenarios)
without Conquests.

Rocoteh
 
why is there af Fortress unit in Tobruk? It makes it almost impossible to do anything in Afrika, at least when you're playing GB. Is it because some of the later units are able to defeat this monster (80 in defense!)? even with the air and naval bombardements it's hard to bring it down.
Fortresses are quite useful to stop blitzkriegstyle tank rushes. One hast to bypass them and buildup some siege troops (airforce, arty and if possible ships with bombardment) around them and reduce the fortress step by step).

If you think Tobruk is a problem then what about Malta ;) ... that little island is in the habbit of testing my patience ...

Neldor, enjoy the game and the holidays :)
 
Germany 2.4 Emperor
Week 36 1939
Trade policies
Tax Rates 40%Tax 50% Research 10% Luxury
ROP with all my European allies.
Made trade deal with Argentina Rubber for 16 gold per turn.[Btw I thought you got rid of over seas trade.]
Made trade deal with the Soviet Union German wines for 46 gold per turn.
Researching land/air 1940 eta 26 turns I am losing 31 gold per turn and I have 816 in the bank.

Early Kriegsmarine raids.
Sent 10 destroyers & 3 light cruisers and sunk 10 British submarines, 1 Dutch destroyer, and 2 dutch subs. All but 1 ship retreated to Bremen & minefields with 0 losses.1 destroyer out in open water very vulnerable to British counter attack.
Crushed the Polish fleet with coastal submarines and lost 3 subs the Poles will pay for this.
Kriegsmarine bombs Danzig the S boats are very good for this.

Early Blitzkrieg in Poland.
We attack Danzig with 2 infantry divisions with 0 loses we take the city and we garrison it with 3 German security divisions.
Kriegsmarine bombs units outside Danzig.
The Luftwaffe bombs many polish units and we use our artillery corps to great effect.
Our infantry & panzer divisions destroy many polish units with 1 infantry division & 1 panzer division lost.
2 groups prepare to take Warsaw and 2 Groups prepare to take Radom.

Graf Spree & U boats
I will send the Graf Spee[BTW It was called the Graf Spree this ship was misnamed]to South Africa and then to India to raid along the way and maybe reach the Pacific to help the Japanese .My U boats in the Atlantic will not move I will wait for the British to show up.

Preparations
I send two armies into Holland 1 east of Rotterdam 1 east of Amsterdam the 1 outside Amsterdam has 4 Infantry divisions & 1 88 the 1 outside Rotterdam has 4 inf div, 3mot inf div, 2 Artillery,
1 light div, & 1 88.
One army prepares to attack Denmark with 3 inf divs & 1 mot inf div.
U boats move in to prepare to attack the Norwegian fleet.
Load 1st Marine Div into transport and move it north towards Oslo.
I send 3 destroyers to Finland just to keep an eye on them.
Re-base 6 bombers to Koln.

The allies counter attack.
Denmark Norway Declares war on me!
Their Fleet attacks me and sinks 1 destroyer 5 U boats 2 light Cruisers.They will pay for this.
The dutch attack that lone destroyer they sunk it but lost 2 subs in the process.
The poles counter attacked I take 0 loses.
The RAF and the French Air Force bomb me I take no loses and shot down 4 planes with AAA.

Week 37 1939

Poland falls.
Our glorious armies take Warsaw & Radom with the loss of only 1 panzer division.
Poland then capitulates and we garrison 3 infantry divisions in Warsaw and 3 in Radom.
High command orders us to deploy 9 infantry divisions along the new frontier with the Soviet Union and also to deploy 3 squadrons of me-109s to Poland.
We now have a total of 20 infantry & fortress divisions on the border with the Soviet Union.

Holland falls.
We weaken Rotterdam with 2 artillery barrages and 3 bombing raids then take the city with 0 loses and garrison it with 3 infantry divisions.
We weaken Amsterdam with a few bombing raids and 1 artillery barrage we lose no divisions in the assault and capture the city.We garrison 2 infantry divisions & 1 88 in the city.
High command thinks we can take Antwerp this week we spend 100$ on spies and find out that Antwerp has 3 infantry divisions garrisoned. We move 2 infantry divisions from Rotterdam and replace them with 1 88.
We attack with no air support or artillery the 2 infantry divisions wipe out 2 Belgian infantry divisions then we attack with 1 mot inf div and it is lost We attack with 1 more MOT INF DIV and take the city we garrison it with 2 mot inf divs and 1 infantry division.We then find 1 more infantry division and send it to Rotterdam.


Denmark falls.
We use the 1st marine division to take Copenhagen with no help at all. We then garrison the city with 3 infantry divisions.

Attack on Denmark-Norway's Fleet
We send 2 U boats to attack 2 coastal defense ships I sink 1 and almost sink the other but I lose 1 U boat in the process.
We attack the danish fleet with coastal submarines and lose 4 but sink all of the danish ships.[I think the coastal defense ships are too strong for Denmark-Norway]

Kriegsmarine raids.
Attacked 1 dutch sub with a destroyer and lost the destroyer sent 2nd destroyer and sunk the sub and retreated to Bremen afterwards.Re-based the light cruiser Konigsburg to Rotterdam.We send much of the Kriegsmarine north to attack Norway.
We rush production in Hamburg for a Transport. [cost 460$]

Misc.
We start production on a worker to send to Sicily to make an air base to support operations in the Mediterranean.
Re-based 8 more bombers to Koln.
I now send the U boats in the Atlantic on the hunt.

The allies counter attack.
The French Navy & Royal Navy Bombs Antwerp.
RAF Bombs &
hurts Antwerp we shot down 3 planes.
Royal Navy kills 3 U boats.
Royal Navy battleships bombard minefields off Norway.


BTW this is my first play test please tell me what kind of info you need.

P.S.Merry Christmas:) ;) :( :D :p :blush: :rolleyes: :eek: :lol:
P.S. P.S. Will the Santa hats on the smiley faces on this post go away after Christmas ?
 
Equuleus,

Thank you for the report.

"Germany 2.4 Emperor
Week 36 1939
Trade policies
Tax Rates 40%Tax 50% Research 10% Luxury
ROP with all my European allies.
Made trade deal with Argentina Rubber for 16 gold per turn.[Btw I thought you got rid of over seas trade.]
Made trade deal with the Soviet Union German wines for 46 gold per turn.
Researching land/air 1940 eta 26 turns I am losing 31 gold per turn and I have 816 in the bank."
Equuleus

Yes but then there are "special wonders."
Such a wonder in Buenos Aires connects Argentina with Germany.

"Early Kriegsmarine raids.
Sent 10 destroyers & 3 light cruisers and sunk 10 British submarines, 1 Dutch destroyer, and 2 dutch subs. All but 1 ship retreated to Bremen & minefields with 0 loses.1 destroyer out in open water very vulnerable to British counter attack.
Crushed the Polish fleet with coastal submarines and lost 3 subs the Poles will pay for this.
Kriegsmarine bombs Danzig the S boats are very good for this.

Early Blitzkrieg in Poland.
We attack Danzig with 2 infantry divisions with 0 loses we take the city and we garrison it with 3 German security divisions.
Kriegsmarine bombs units outside Danzig.
The Luftwaffe bombs many polish units and we use our artillery corps to great effect.
Our infantry & panzer divisions destroy many polish units with 1 infantry division & 1 panzer division lost.
2 groups prepare to take Warsaw and 2 Groups prepare to take Radom"
Equuleus

Very low initial losses.

"Graf Spree & U boats
I will send the Graf Spee[BTW It was called the Graf Spree this ship was misnamed]to South Africa and then to India to raid along the way and maybe reach the Pacific to help the Japanese .My U boats in the Atlantic will not move I will wait for the British to show up."
Equuleus

Graf Spee is the only name I have seen on this ship.

"The allies counter attack.
Denmark Norway Declares war on me!
Their Fleet attacks me and sinks 1 destroyer 5 U boats 2 light Cruisers.They will pay for this.
The dutch attack that lone destroyer they sunk it but lost 2 subs in the process.
The poles counter attacked I take 0 loses.
The RAF and the French Air Force bomb me I take no loses and shot down 4 planes with AAA."
Equuleus

Probably the minefields trigger the Declaration of War.

"Poland falls.
Our glorious armies take Warsaw & Radom with the loss of only 1 panzer division.
Poland then capitulates and we garrison 3 infantry divisions in Warsaw and 3 in Radom.
High command orders us to deploy 9 infantry divisions along the new frontier with the Soviet Union and also to deploy 3 squadrons of me-109s to Poland.
We now have a total of 20 infantry & fortress divisions on the border with the Soviet Union"
Equuleus

A fast campaign in Poland.

"Holland falls.
We weaken Rotterdam with 2 artillery barrages and 3 bombing raids then take the city with 0 loses and garrison it with 3 infantry divisions.
We weaken Amsterdam with a few bombing raids and 1 artillery barrage we lose no divisions in the assault and capture the city.We garrison 2 infantry divisions & 1 88 in the city.
High command thinks we can take Antwerp this week we spend 100$ on spies and find out that Antwerp has 3 infantry divisions garrisoned. We move 2 infantry divisions from Rotterdam and replace them with 1 88.
We attack with no air support or artillery the 2 infantry divisions wipe out 2 Belgian infantry divisions then we attack with 1 mot inf div and it is lost We attack with 1 more MOT INF DIV and take the city we garrison it with 2 mot inf divs and 1 infantry division.We then find 1 more infantry division and send it to Rotterdam."
Equuleus

The above is not unrealistic since Germany planned to attack in West
in 1939 already.

"Denmark falls.
We use the 1st marine division to take Copenhagen with no help at all."
Equuleus

A very good idea!

"!Misc.
We start production on a worker to send to Sicily to make an air base to support operations in the Mediterranean.
Re-based 8 more bombers to Koln.
I now send the U boats in the Atlantic on the hunt."
Equuleus

Good moves.

"BTW this is my first play test please tell me what kind of info you need."
Equuleus


Its a very good playtest-report that gives a good picture on
the general situation.

P.S.Merry Christmas
Equuleus

Merry Christmas!

"P.S. P.S. Will the Santa hats on the smiley faces on this post go away after Christmas ?"
Equuleus

I guess so.

Thank you and welcome back with more reports.

Rocoteh
 
Merry christmas Roco....Santa is gonna get shot down over germany by my AAA lol. The one thing that annoys me in this game is the lack of GFX but other than that its great...once SOE gets realeased the gfx will become nice again.

Is there any country in particular you need tested becaues I am bored outa my mind?
 
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