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P.S.Y.C.H.O. said:
That's very good news! :) In a few months i'll buy a new computer with 1024 Mb RAM, i hope the 362x326 scenario (what are you gonna call it?) will run pretty smooth on that machine when it's released...

P.S.Y.C.H.O.,

I am really glad to hear that. Strong RAM is important for this
scenario. I have yet no name for the 362x326 scenario. It will be
launched from this thread and will have the same expanded graphics
as version 1.4.

Rocoteh
 
allin1joe said:
I was thinking about amasing an army of 10-15 Marine units and take out Mexico. I was planning on taking out Japan next, however, since it's never been done, I'll go the other way. During my war with Mexico, my Eastern seaboard cities will build transports while my Western cities will build re-inforcements for my war in Mexico/invasion of Europe. Once I think I have enough ground troops, I can start building some heavy bombers to re-deploy to my airbase in Ireland. I am hoping my war with Mexico goes well enough to promote some Marines and maybe making an army or two. That, and getting extra cities to produce from are the reasons why I'm going after Mexico first.

allin1joe,

This sounds very interesting! I doubt Japan-AI will cause much trouble.

After that you have defeated Germany and Italy you will also have a
very good position against Soviet should you choose to continue the
war and attack them.

I am looking forward to follow this playtest.

Thank you and welcome back.

Rocoteh
 
KristiB,

"Yeah, but I stole the BB plans when I conquered America " KristiB

That is a very good point :) :)

"I'd also suggest a crappy marine unit maybe for the neutrals. I can't even consider taking the 1 hex islands with my poor 6-8-1 infantry"

OK, its possible I include one with a very high price-tag.

"Week 4, 1943: In the latter part of 1942 after taking the British Isles, we kicked the French off the European continent and destroyed Spain and took Gibralter and Lisbon. I had considered sending a force to Australia but it would take the transports 14 turns to get there so I continue to feed the war to the east. We have just landed in Northern Africa and taken the new French capital, Algiers, as well as Rabat. Our current numbers stand at 17% of world land and 32% of world population. Viva la Argentina!" KristiB

Its an incredible result!

"My Argentinian (8) bombers don't scare anyone... Try bombing a city with a population of 21 and British tank with a defense of 19 in it and let me know how that goes..." KristiB

It sounds hard.
Thank you and welcome back.

Rocoteh
 
Bob1475,

"It is now week 28 1940

Germany hold Poland, Brussels, Amsterdam and Paris. However, the French have held their remaining home cities, Spain remains with its four cities and the UK holds the British Isles." Bob1475

I think this is very interesting. I mean: Its possible for a human
who plays Germany to occupy France within 6-10 weeks from start.

Here in your playtest France-AI still holds out against Germany-AI
at week 28 1940!
That is facts to consider when one discuss changes in initial Order
of Battles.

"Germany seems very peaceful." Bob1475

AI aggression-level have been set to the lowest possible
for all Civs. Its possible we here see the negative aspect of that.

I will consider changes.

"Russia has taken all of Finland but did not raze a city which is good news"
Bob1475

I agree.

"Someone has razed Jerusalem and Amman just like in my British game"
Bob1475

Will place wonders there also.

"Now for the real shocker - Italy has not lost a city! Usually by now there has been some action in Africa but as far as I can see the Italians have razed a few French cities." Bob1475

A real surprise!

"Another interesting item - the Germans hold Gwadar in India. I had lost this city to the Japanese in my British game. Seems the Persians will let anyone through!" Bob1475

AI makes strange raids!

"In Asia the Japanese have taken Canton, Nanning and Hanoi and have razed Hong Kong. The Russians hold Chengtu, Chungking, Wuhan and Kumming. Very bad news for the Chinese" Bob1475

It seems like China have more problems than Communist-China.

Thank you for the report and welcome back.

Rocoteh
 
Sasebo,

Thank you for the report.

"Rocoteh: I wasn't suggesting you do a 1941 start version, just pointing out that our results will not likely be historical since the US and USSR are more then likely going to be involved heavily early. I am doubting whether I can do what Japan did in sweeping south and getting all those islands since the US will be all over me much sooner then in history" Sasebo

OK I see. Yes what you say is right. BTW: If I only had time I would
make a 1941 version. It could also be interesting. With regard to the
future and Civ 4 I will not rule it out. Then as mentioned earlier whether
I will continue with scenario-creation or not after the release of Civ 4
depends on which new tools Civ 4 will bring.

"Also I have yet to try UK but I urge you not to decide if they are too weak until you get more playtest reports from them" Sasebo

I have not decided anything! Its an estimate.

"I'm not recording specific dates in my notes for this one,just trying to focus on the larger/interesting events. I am up to Week 42? or so of 1939. Japan is indeed a big challenge! I have been surprised by the C.China armor strength and aggressiveness;they are definitely tougher then before I think, Did they start with some armor???" Sasebo

No they did not.

"Italy took Cyprus again, and razed Port Suez again" Sasebo

That is very bad news since there is a Wonder there.

"Even if they don't I am gathering up my heavy forces and heading N to protect the home islands. I am even getting the Kamikaze unit in position in case they threaten Tokyo. Those other 3 CV/BB task forces are still off the Marcus/Wake islands. I have a Carrier Battle Group with 2 BB and CA support down at Borneo;I think they must stay a few turns to secure it and recuperate. I have a lone BB I took from this group heading to the Marshalls to deal with the UK CA bombard group. Another 2BB/2CV group at Marcus Is. weighing our options vs. the US CV groups and trying to defend the easternmost part of our empire. I have shot down a number of US air units with flak/fighters. Wish I had my lone george unit here instead of at Borneo. I am glad I was screening for US transports since now I have 3-4 BBs reasonably close to those US CA/BB groups up north. I am bringing my shore bombardment group of 1 BB and 5 CA from off Foochow to meet them too. I don't know how others play it, but my navy gets spread all over;Japan is worse then most for me." Sasebo

It seems there soon will be many interesting air-naval battles!

Welcome back.

Rocoteh
 
German PanzerGrenadier Division 1944, and German Artillery Brigade.
From the graphic expansion.
 

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Week 51:
Nothing happened in the last turn after my last report, even in the PC turn. I will make in the first turn of the new year a new Oreder Of Battle of the nations where I have spys.
In the very beginning I sank two British CA and a DD without any own casuality of planes. 11 attacks, NO plane lost!
But now to LONDON:

Das Oberkommando der Wehrmacht gibt bekannt:
In the early morning of the day before Christmas eve the German artillery began to fire on the British Capital. From the Coast the ships Bismarck, Scharnhorst, Gneisenau, Schleswig- Holstein, Lützow, Admiral Scheer, Admiral Graf Spee, Admiral Hipper, Blücher and Prinz Eugen supported the advancing troops. In the heavy fights no own divisions were killed, although some badly damaged. However now, on Christmas Eve 1939, the SS division Spanish Blue division was able to eliminate the resistance in the British Capital, which is now under German controle. Plymouth was also very fast liberated after the fall of London. the 3rd light motorized Infantry division had no problems in taking the city. 2 of my armies and a PzKw IIIe division are able to take Birmingham. The very same happens to Liverpool. Although my light division army was nearly destroyed by a MG gunner and my army had to retreat, my PzKw IIIe take the city. Only Wick is still in British hands as well as Belfast. Both will follow before the year is over.

I plan to make an amphibious assault on Belfast and take over Wick conventionally. My spy sent me the plans of the British forces. This allowed my Gibraltar planes to attack two stacks of british SS in the Med sinking several of them.

Now the PC:
The French capture Izmir.
The RN sank 2 Italian warships loosing a DD. most units in the Red Sea return to the Med. I wanted to rebase my planes at Bibraltar but this seems to be no good idea any more...
THoughts: The Soviets are quiete. Shall I attack them or shall I attack turkey to attack the French/ British in North Africa??? But therefore I would need my transports also there...
Italy bomb Corsica.
2 further transports ordered in the yards of Stettin and Königsberg.
Now it is my turn

Adler
 
Adler,

Thank you for the report.

"Das Oberkommando der Wehrmacht gibt bekannt:
In the early morning of the day before Christmas eve the German artillery began to fire on the British Capital. From the Coast the ships Bismarck, Scharnhorst, Gneisenau, Schleswig- Holstein, Lützow, Admiral Scheer, Admiral Graf Spee, Admiral Hipper, Blücher and Prinz Eugen supported the advancing troops. In the heavy fights no own divisions were killed, although some badly damaged. However now, on Christmas Eve 1939, the SS division Spanish Blue division was able to eliminate the resistance in the British Capital, which is now under German controle. Plymouth was also very fast liberated after the fall of London. the 3rd light motorized Infantry division had no problems in taking the city. 2 of my armies and a PzKw IIIe division are able to take Birmingham. The very same happens to Liverpool. Although my light division army was nearly destroyed by a MG gunner and my army had to retreat, my PzKw IIIe take the city. Only Wick is still in British hands as well as Belfast. Both will follow before the year is over." Adler

It seems like the British Isles will fall in record time.

"The Soviets are quiete. Shall I attack them or shall I attack turkey to attack the French/ British in North Africa??? But therefore I would need my transports also there..." Adler

I think its best to go for Soviet first.

"A Jagdpanther as Panzergrenadierdivision??? Wouldn´t be the one from Barbarossa not better?" Adler

PanzerGrenadier Divisions 1944 most of the time had one Tank-destroyer Battalion. Since I want to avoid units representing just one Battalion I think its a good idea.

This Jagdpanther by ripptide is in my opinion a excellent unit and I want
to include it in some way.

No list on which units that will be included in the graphic expansion yet.

Welcome back.

Rocoteh
 
Rocoteh said:
allin1joe,

This sounds very interesting! I doubt Japan-AI will cause much trouble.

After that you have defeated Germany and Italy you will also have a
very good position against Soviet should you choose to continue the
war and attack them.

I am looking forward to follow this playtest.

Thank you and welcome back.

Rocoteh

I am up to week 9 now. I have about 6 Marines in my main strike force and 2 in my Western one (I forget the Mexican city south of San Diego, but that is their target). I now have 7 cities building marines between 5-10 turns, so I'm making progress on the production front. As for the Japanese, they brought down a fleet of 2 battleships, and 7 heavy cruisers to bomb Iwo Jima. My fleet intercepted and sunk them all with loses of 1 battleship, 1 heavy cruiser and about 6 destroyers. I have a new fleet of a battleship, about 4 heavy cruisers and about 16 destroyers that will enter the Pacific arena in about 5 weeks.
 
allin1joe said:
I am up to week 9 now. I have about 6 Marines in my main strike force and 2 in my Western one (I forget the Mexican city south of San Diego, but that is their target). I now have 7 cities building marines between 5-10 turns, so I'm making progress on the production front. As for the Japanese, they brought down a fleet of 2 battleships, and 7 heavy cruisers to bomb Iwo Jima. My fleet intercepted and sunk them all with loses of 1 battleship, 1 heavy cruiser and about 6 destroyers. I have a new fleet of a battleship, about 4 heavy cruisers and about 16 destroyers that will enter the Pacific arena in about 5 weeks.

allin1joe,

Thank you for the report.

Maybe its a good idea to invade Portugal when making a
amphibious invasion of continental Europe. That should hopefully
stop an direct counterattack an give time to a build-up of
the invasion-forces.

Again: I do not think Japan-AI will cause you much trouble.

Welcome back.

Rocoteh
 
Week 52 part 1:
Belfast taken by an amphibious assault. Also Wick is taken. I lose a Pz IIIe, a light division and a Elite infantry division. This town was the most costly of the whole campaign! Nevertheless before the end of the year the British islands are captured!
In the Med 4 British DD are sunk, one by a Me 109.

PC turn:
The British fleet returns to Britain, many ships pass the street of Gibraltar. This time my fleet will intercept them in open sea- the remaining ships! The Italian navy sinks at least 2 British CL.
Now all allies are at war with the Soviets!

Adler
 
Sorry, I am doing it again I think; I meant the Italians razed the city on the middle of the red sea coast, Port Said??? It was not the one near the canal. I am sure it was not a wonder city!

I agree with allin1joe that BB are hard to take down, but I think that is a good thing. Only a BB or maybe a BC has a fair shot at taking one out head to head. if you make them easier to kill they will be much less useful.

In both games with 1.3 I have seen China going to war with Russia, they were able to avoid that in earlier versions. I don't know what is causing it, but that is a big problem. China is dogmeat to Soviet armor,and USSR has easy access to China's western cities.

I am thinking of trying to get a peace treaty with Comm. China as Japan, did you lock them into a war with me or not Rocoteh? I am just curious. Also I remember looking at all the US Heavy Bombers in the Pedia, and I thought that some of the stats were strange. B24s seemed ridiculously weak defensively,and not worth building compared to the B17Gs. Those B17Gs looked incredibly powerful btw!

I like the new graphics for the PzGren. unit, but I have to say it does look more like an armor unit. There are no Halftrack graphics out there yet?
 
Adler17 said:
Week 52 part 1:
Belfast taken by an amphibious assault. Also Wick is taken. I lose a Pz IIIe, a light division and a Elite infantry division. This town was the most costly of the whole campaign! Nevertheless before the end of the year the British islands are captured!
In the Med 4 British DD are sunk, one by a Me 109.

PC turn:
The British fleet returns to Britain, many ships pass the street of Gibraltar. This time my fleet will intercept them in open sea- the remaining ships! The Italian navy sinks at least 2 British CL.
Now all allies are at war with the Soviets!

Adler

Adler17,

France and Britain occupied. Soviet at war with allies.

You now have an incredible good strategic situation!

Thank you and welcome back.

Rocoteh
 
Sasebo said:
Sorry, I am doing it again I think; I meant the Italians razed the city on the middle of the red sea coast, Port Said??? It was not the one near the canal. I am sure it was not a wonder city!

I agree with allin1joe that BB are hard to take down, but I think that is a good thing. Only a BB or maybe a BC has a fair shot at taking one out head to head. if you make them easier to kill they will be much less useful.

In both games with 1.3 I have seen China going to war with Russia, they were able to avoid that in earlier versions. I don't know what is causing it, but that is a big problem. China is dogmeat to Soviet armor,and USSR has easy access to China's western cities.

I am thinking of trying to get a peace treaty with Comm. China as Japan, did you lock them into a war with me or not Rocoteh? I am just curious. Also I remember looking at all the US Heavy Bombers in the Pedia, and I thought that some of the stats were strange. B24s seemed ridiculously weak defensively,and not worth building compared to the B17Gs. Those B17Gs looked incredibly powerful btw!

I like the new graphics for the PzGren. unit, but I have to say it does look more like an armor unit. There are no Halftrack graphics out there yet?

Sasebo,

It was probably Port Sudan. That was good news.

"In both games with 1.3 I have seen China going to war with Russia, they were able to avoid that in earlier versions. I don't know what is causing it, but that is a big problem. China is dogmeat to Soviet armor,and USSR has easy access to China's western cities." Sasebo

Agree. That is really a big problem. I will see what I can do to change this.

Japan are locked in war with Communist-China.

I will look over the US air-unit stats.

On the graphics for the PanzerGrenadier 1944 unit: It was to a large
extent an armoured unit. Halftrack graphics exists.

Thank you and welcome back.

Rocoteh
 
Man this sucks. I conquered all of Europe and was getting ready for a massive invasion in africa when the US declares war with Russia! Even better right? Wrong. The very next turn Japan declares war on Russia as well. So now Im going to be occupied with Russia forever.
 
dreamcrusader said:
Man this sucks. I conquered all of Europe and was getting ready for a massive invasion in africa when the US declares war with Russia! Even better right? Wrong. The very next turn Japan declares war on Russia as well. So now Im going to be occupied with Russia forever.

dreamcrusader,

The diplomatic module is not a strong part of CIV3/Conquests.

We can only hope that Civ 4 will mean a great improvement.

Rocoteh
 
Roco,

I've been doing some playtesting still attempting to deal with the AI razing of cities. I took out most of your great wonders and replaced them with small wonders and replayed the first turn of the scenario several times. Small wonders do NOT offer the same protection as great wonders but they DO seem to make the AI more reluctant to raze. I'd suggest making a generic SMALL wonder and placing one in each city. After the test I've run, I don't think it's the end-all-be-all answer but it will help...
 
Well, I've been AWOL for a while, eh? Some 20 new pages of replies which I will not bother reading through just yet. I have been playing while I was away, and I have my report handy....*clears throat*

Background: As Germany in Version 1.00 (Once I win by house rules, I'll dl the latest version, promise!) I have conquered France, Poland, Norway, the Brittish Isles, and all of Africa. I was last preparing the Invasion of Turkey, then a two pronged invasion of the USSR. Here's how its going...

I take Cyprus on wk1, 1942 as the preclude to invasion. I wanted the base for the Ju87s and 109s. It was taken without loss. On wk8, I finally declare war on Turkey ( I had to wait for the ROP to expire). The southern front, consisting of the 10 or son Inf, SS, and Panzer armies that had taken Africa swept the Southern coast all in one week. I take Adana and Antalya on the coast, and also take Dmascus, which I had up til then left alone. In the north, three Panzer armies, the 29th, 30th and 31st, took Istanbul and Izmir. My battle fleet in the Med, of 8 Bismarcks and accompanying destroyers goes through the bosporus and dardanelles to reach the Black Sea.

Next turn, Ankara was assualted and captured. Worth noting was that there were three armies in the capital, two of them wholly filled. Seems the AI does build Armies after all. It used it too. The counter-attack nearly spelled doom for the 30th Pz army, but it hung on by one hp and saved the day. :goodjob:

Wk10, I take Erzurum, Trabzon, and Samsun; Turkey is destroyed after three weeks of fighting.

After a period of re-deployment, I declared war on Russia. My inf and SS armies had been deployed in the south (Iran; The Soviets had taken Iran earlier, so my conquest started there for the southeren wing), while my Panzer armies were up at the immensely broad Main Front. I held my new Panther army and my individual Panther units in reserve in case the Soviets broke through my other Pz units on the front.

Wk13, I declare war on the USSR, and my sole offensive action was the capture of Basra. I didn't wan't to expose myself in the north. I had a defensive line prepared with forts and machine gunners and even a few 88's manning the front, and I didn't want to wear down my army in a frontal assualt that would be countered next turn, while I could just sit back and let the Soviets kill themselves on my defensive line.

Russia Takes the offensive! But not in the way I had planned. They kill off Romania almost immediatly and took the city of Vilnius, but here's the kicker: They moved their truly massive armour force into Turkey, and proceeded to raze every city in the South by the sea. The Russians also take much of Southern Finland, but for some odd reason, I noticed that Japanese Manchuria hadn't been touched...perhaps they had a secret non-aggression pact or something...:P

On my turn, my large force of artillery went to work on the Russian units that were sort of scattered along the front, and large armored forces were destroyed, though the huge bulk of it was still in Turkey. The fact that it was in Turkey worried me. My battle fleet was still in the Black sea, and if the soviets occupied, or worse razed, the city of Istanbul, the fleet would never get out of it. I sent all of my SS Infantry (around 30) down to Istanbul to defend it from the Russians.

Once that all important city was secured, I re-took Vilnius, and used 3 Pz Armies to reduce the stacks of armor that wer giving me such a fright in Turkey. They still had plenty left though.

Russia's turn again. They take Sofia (Bulgaria dead), Erzurum, Belgrade, Vaasa, Budapest (Hungary dead), Samsun, Hammerest (mine, up in Norway), Tirana, and Kemi (Finns dead). The Soviets do not even assualt Istanbul.

wk15, I captured Budapest, Sofia, and Lwow. My force in the Middle East are trying to deal with the Soviets in Turkey. Because the damn Russkies throw most of their power to the south where my offensive forces were weak, it looks like this will have to be a single-front war after all. Maybe later the damage can be repaired. Most of my armies are still in reserve, for it is plain the Soviets still have a great deal of offensive power, and I do not wish to attack until I feel safe from attack in my homelands.

Soviets then proceed to raze Budapest, and capture Narvik, Basra and Lwow.

wk16. This turn the Soviets have seemed quiet enough, so I make some cautious offensives. I re-take Lwow, capture Oradea, Riga, and Odessa. My Mobile Rockets are proving to be most valuable.:D

The Soviets in Turkey decide that the remaining three cities there are too tough to crack, and they head south and Raze Riyadh, Mecca, and Sakakah. Up north, they re-take Odessa and Riga ( I lost an army in defense of this city :cry: )

wk17, another turn of limited offensive action; I take Riga, Odessa, Kiev, Minsk, Tallinn. By now, the only reserve I have is the Panther army and three Panther divisions stationed in Germany. The rest of my armies are either resting or on the front line.

The Soviets re-take Tallinn, but nothing else.

wk18. I capture Smolensk, Tallinn, Basra. In the MidEast, my infantry armies are having a hard time pushing back the tides of steel, but they are making small gains. At the very least they are drawing lots of soviet troops away from the much more important Northern Front.

Throughout the reast of the world:

America has taken Honto and the Kurile Is.

In wk3, Italy finally captures Batang, finishing China.

Wk5, Japan Razes the city of Rangoon and captures Hue.

Wk8, Japan Razes the city North of Rangoon.

Japan has also by now razed the S most Vietnamese city (Saigon?) and captured the city of Chiangmai. I think Japan is doing quite well!:D now if only they would help out against the Russians...None of the border cities have changed hands at all. :/

Oh, and a general note, whether it is intentional or not, type IX Uboats don't seem to be invisible. I know many people think that the AI sees everything, and it does, generally, but it seems to ignore subs (as we can tell from how they keep getting themselves into odd wars:)). But the AI seemed to almost be hunting for my TIXs because of their low defense. They don't seem to hunt for my normal uboat TVIIs, though, which leads me to ask, are type IX uboats invisible?
 
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