classical_hero
In whom I trust
I was just making a statement of fact. This is a massive project. I do not know why you would not use those naval units.
WW2-Global
- Thread starter Rocoteh
- Start date
Serutan
Eatibus Anythingibus
Rocoteh,
I downloaded the 2.0 files, and whilst looking through the editor,
I noticed that the "Canberra Wonder" was an Improvement,
but from the name I would assume that it is supposed to be
a Wonder. Sorry if this is redundant...
I downloaded the 2.0 files, and whilst looking through the editor,
I noticed that the "Canberra Wonder" was an Improvement,
but from the name I would assume that it is supposed to be
a Wonder. Sorry if this is redundant...
oljb007
Warlord
Roc
just to clarify. I took paris in 10 weeks. but with my numerous errors I think 6 weeks is definately possible.
oljb007
just to clarify. I took paris in 10 weeks. but with my numerous errors I think 6 weeks is definately possible.
oljb007
oljb007
Warlord
Roc,
playing a little bit more tonight and thought I would add a few more comments/questions
Noticed that the AI has a production handicap. what is the percentage?
I spied a couple of british cities and there production is low, maybe handicap makes up for it as German cities are production monsters.
British AI is building recon's like crazy and bombing sea units.
Brit AI is also building, (of course) flotilla's
I took the French city of strasburn in the magninoti line, very difficult. entire luftwaffe bombed for 2 turns. reduced it to size 1.
British Isle seems a little under developed, no mined hillsides. (aware you werent' done with Britian - also awaiting handicap percentage)
US has sent 3 cruisers and a transport across the atlantic, twice.
Japan has sent ships through the artic over N. America into the north atlantic and are attacking Britain! :S May need a "block" and a tower like the old map did.
In regards to German production. its only 1940 week 10 and I feel my production is pretty hefty. (could change when British/American forces are added!
) I have 11 cities over 60 s/t. 5 of which are over 90 per turn. my top citie is 208(iron works), 2nd is 103!!!
olb007
...more later.
playing a little bit more tonight and thought I would add a few more comments/questions
Noticed that the AI has a production handicap. what is the percentage?
I spied a couple of british cities and there production is low, maybe handicap makes up for it as German cities are production monsters.
British AI is building recon's like crazy and bombing sea units.
Brit AI is also building, (of course) flotilla's
I took the French city of strasburn in the magninoti line, very difficult. entire luftwaffe bombed for 2 turns. reduced it to size 1.
British Isle seems a little under developed, no mined hillsides. (aware you werent' done with Britian - also awaiting handicap percentage)
US has sent 3 cruisers and a transport across the atlantic, twice.
Japan has sent ships through the artic over N. America into the north atlantic and are attacking Britain! :S May need a "block" and a tower like the old map did.
In regards to German production. its only 1940 week 10 and I feel my production is pretty hefty. (could change when British/American forces are added!
) I have 11 cities over 60 s/t. 5 of which are over 90 per turn. my top citie is 208(iron works), 2nd is 103!!!olb007
...more later.
oljb007 said:Roc,
playing a little bit more tonight and thought I would add a few more comments/questions
Noticed that the AI has a production handicap. what is the percentage?
I spied a couple of british cities and there production is low, maybe handicap makes up for it as German cities are production monsters.
British AI is building recon's like crazy and bombing sea units.
Brit AI is also building, (of course) flotilla's
I took the French city of strasburn in the magninoti line, very difficult. entire luftwaffe bombed for 2 turns. reduced it to size 1.
British Isle seems a little under developed, no mined hillsides. (aware you werent' done with Britian - also awaiting handicap percentage)
US has sent 3 cruisers and a transport across the atlantic, twice.
Japan has sent ships through the artic over N. America into the north atlantic and are attacking Britain! :S May need a "block" and a tower like the old map did.
In regards to German production. its only 1940 week 10 and I feel my production is pretty hefty. (could change when British/American forces are added!
olb007
...more later.
oljb007,
I do not know the percentage, but since you play on SID-level
it must be very high.
British cities should have high production. I will check it.
Are you sure Britain are building flotillas? It should not be possible.
On Japan and the Arctic:
Yes, I will add a block.
On US cruisers and transport:
Typical AI raiding-strategy that seldom or never pays off!
On German production:
Its possible there will be changes later on.
Thank you for the report and welcome back.
Rocoteh
I've tried that myself and must say it works. While listening nightwish and playing this time just flies by, untill it's 11pm and i have no homework doneComradeDavo said:
on sid level cpu pays only 60% of the original unit/building cost.
checked from the editor, seems like ai has to pay only 40%!!! can that be right
OgrePete
Chieftain
Just wanted to post an unusual development in my 1.9 game over the weekend. Britain and I were leapfrogging each other through Japan's Chinese possessions (just about finished them off, to be frank) when all of a sudden, UK declares war on Russia! 
Now I've posted before about Russia's stacks of Motorized Infantry, T-26's, T-34/75's and KV-1's on the north-western coast of Norway, poised for transport to Britain. I was obviously concerned about it. I don't want to lose my only effective ally. I've got an even stronger hold on Italy now, with D-Day invasion on France and a simultaneous pincer movement from Italy just five to ten turns away now. I also wiped out German-held Gibraltar... it was razed without any input from me.
I'm scared to death of Russian hordes pouring through the German borders only to go directly at ME! I've no idea why the UK would declare war, though... Definitely makes for an interesting challenge. Now I've got to worry about 30 or so Russian submarines let loose on my Pacific shipping routes. I've gotten lazy and have stopped sending escorts with the transports as it's been ages since I've seen Japanese ships in open waters (thanks to Brits and Dutch for that 
).
One problem I noticed is that the US gets the P-39 Aircobra and a light bomber with the Air 1941 tech advancement, but neither one is an improvement from the F4F Wildcat and Dauntless I had access to earlier. The Aircobra has less attack, but costs more. I assume this is a result of many, many changes to the game over time, not deliberate.
I want Rocoteh to know he's created a masterpiece which I am thoroughly enjoying!
Now I've posted before about Russia's stacks of Motorized Infantry, T-26's, T-34/75's and KV-1's on the north-western coast of Norway, poised for transport to Britain. I was obviously concerned about it. I don't want to lose my only effective ally. I've got an even stronger hold on Italy now, with D-Day invasion on France and a simultaneous pincer movement from Italy just five to ten turns away now. I also wiped out German-held Gibraltar... it was razed without any input from me.
I'm scared to death of Russian hordes pouring through the German borders only to go directly at ME! I've no idea why the UK would declare war, though... Definitely makes for an interesting challenge.
Now I've got to worry about 30 or so Russian submarines let loose on my Pacific shipping routes. I've gotten lazy and have stopped sending escorts with the transports as it's been ages since I've seen Japanese ships in open waters (thanks to Brits and Dutch for that ). One problem I noticed is that the US gets the P-39 Aircobra and a light bomber with the Air 1941 tech advancement, but neither one is an improvement from the F4F Wildcat and Dauntless I had access to earlier. The Aircobra has less attack, but costs more. I assume this is a result of many, many changes to the game over time, not deliberate.
I want Rocoteh to know he's created a masterpiece which I am thoroughly enjoying!
andis-1 said:on sid level cpu pays only 60% of the original unit/building cost.
checked from the editor, seems like ai has to pay only 40%!!! can that be right
Yeah, that's probably right. One of the reasons Sid is hard. The AI has plenty of production to do stupid stuff with
.OgrePete said:all of a sudden, UK declares war on Russia!
Sounds like the Brits stumbled on a Russian sub. That happened to me too. I was the Germans, and I had just negotiated a peace with Russia after they prematurely attacked me. It was all I could do to hold on until they'd negotiate for peace. So what happens the very next turn, a dinky, unescorted transport decides he wants to attack my uboat hanging around the West Coast of AFRICA! Oh well, stupid AI.
Adler17
Prussian Feldmarschall
The German Gamestar magazine had a good article about civ IV and even here are good reports. It seems that now blockade measures are possible also naval action seem to become more relevant. We´ll have to see...
Adler
Adler
IarnGreiper
Warlord
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Beta: Do other players have the problem that invading Yugoslavia without Italy grabbing Dubrovnik seems impossible?
2.0: I tried something odd: In my high aggression game with extremly earl sealion and no Fall Gelb I already published I took an alternative road. From the British Islands I shipped my troops directly to Canada.
My landfall near Halifax hit the Canadians and Uncle Sam in total surprise. My forces featured 12 armored and 12 infantry divisions and almost the complete Luftwaffe (in Europe France seemed to lost all their fighters in their invasion of Italy, some of their bombers seem to bombard the Russians on their attack of Damaskus from former Persia). As I took an airport in Greenland I managed to bridge all my planes without using a single carrier. With the artillery support of Gneisenau, Graf Spee and Deutschland Halifax was taken in a week. Because the Tommies featured Matilda tanks the Hauptquatier decided to go south and invade the USA with their weak tanks. Their airforce was no match and destroyed on the ground with a single loss of a DO17 unit in the whole campaign. The next week a force of several dozen destroyers showed up but hessitated to attack the German fleet araound the Gneisenau. Our UBs lurking beneath turned the sea red like a piranha swarm. After we blitzed south up to Boston the Americans counterattacked through the woods north of Cleveland. They are not trained in the combined forces tactics of the Reich. The Luftwaffe pounded them from above and quick Panzer counterstrikes finished the weakened tanks. After a few weeks we destroyed some 20 US tank divisions with any casualities. After the Americans depleted their forces the Wehrmacht was free to intrude deeper into US territory. The US HQ obviously decided on building fighters right now. It turned out to be futile since we are able to take out their weak defended cities so fast that they are all destroyed on the ground.
Kampfgruppe 3 is driving west in the north, Kampfgruppe B is following the railway to san Francisco while Kampfgruppe C is driving south.
The only real resistance we faced was in the Spokane, Las Vegas area where Kampfgruppe A stalled because of British attacks from the north and the rough terrain, while kampfgruppe B lost two Pz divisions in an attempt to relieve Kampfgruppe A while the US surprised us from the west. In August US resistance crumbled everywhere but Puerto Rico and Spokane where the Bristish intervened. We took advantage of the Brits diverting their troops and or fresh reinforcements of 18 divisions landed in Halifax and took east Canada despite their fine tanks. During almost the whole campaign bombers where the main measure of defense along with American build German security divisions. This was neccessary due to extremely limited reinforcements. As a result civil resistance endured until 1941. After we secured Spokane and the Calgary area we reorganized our forces. Kampfgruppe B was slitted between the other two. Kampfgruppe A continued driving north while C cut through Mexico to Panama and Georgetown. Late October all North American but puerto Rico was part of the Reich. We now concentrated on suppressing civil resistance. The invasion of Puerto Rico in December turned out to be bloody as we lost a Marine and a SS unit, both elite.
Maybe we were over confident now because in the coming campaign of the invasion of Brasil we lost both the Graf Spee and the Deutschland to the Brasilian Navy (April 1941).
Meanwhile France invaded Italy and landed in Albania. We managed to drive them back into the Med after they even dared to wrestle Thessaloniki from us.
The brits reorganized extremly well after their capital moved to Calcutta. They took all Italian cities in Africa but Murzuk (by the French). They lost Kabul to the Soviets however. In Asia they took Thailand but one city (Chinese) recaptured Hong Kong and kept driving north. The Japanese didn t seem to matche the Matilda tanks. After the Brits took a few cities the Soviets made peace with the allies and attacked Japan instead in late 1940. Their attacks on the Reich turned out to be weak since we reinforced our cities with German 88s and air defense batteries. In their first wave of attack the Soviets lost some 50 air units on Königsberg. This seemed to intimidate them since they retreated their tanks after a few weeks and agreed to a peace agreement with us after they took the city of Mohe. In the following months the British advanced and took all of China south of the line Penking Port Arthur (in dezember 1941). However Shanghai has been holding out for 6 months as a Japanese stronghold before it was destroyed by the British. We monitored the British Juggernaut with Gneisenau and UBs in the second half of the year.
2nd half of 1941 we took South America but Chile and southern Argentinia. The Argentinians only feature infantry but in such numbers that the even scared our new Panther divisions by swarming them in dozens. Chile seems to have even more troops. Meanwhile our assault on Hawaii failed. The American fleet turned out to be fully intact. In the whole battle of North America we did not see any capital ship but 2 CL and 3 heavy cruisers and they lost their home country while their fleet was out for picnic in the Pazific. Meanwhile we managed to advanced up to Kiew in Europe. As we spent most of our troops to America we can advance only slowly. Our rocket artillery remains the backbone of our forces mixed with 88s and a few Panthers.
Spain razed Lisbon in mid 1941 only to be invaded by the French a few weeks later. The French advanced into Russian Persia from Syria, too. However thei drive to Grozny turned out into a bloody massacre. We took advantage of that and overrun the French after we made peace with Russia. In dezember 1941 we control all continental France. Corsica was destroyed by our invasion after we had to bomb them to dust. The Soviets retook Tabriz. Teheran changed hands between France-Soviets-Persians-Soviets-British in 1941 being the most intense spot of fighting.
A rather odd report reached us theat the French took Mohe from the Soviets.
Final report, new year 1942.
The Reich is the most powerful nation, featuring the most troops, and most people under its control. However unable to forsee our gains we build the forbidden palace in Europe leaving the resources of America prone to corruption. Only New York and Caracas and to a lesser extent Cleveland and Denver turn out to be really productive. Our main production centers are the Reich and the Reichsprotektoriate England and Norway. Milan which we grapped from the French seems to catch up quickly. France will need a few months to become productive while Spain and Italy are in ruins after changing hands twice. The Luftwaffe is still the largest airforce worldwide together with Brits. Whoever we need to invest quite a lot if we ever want to fight them again. Luckily the RAF seems to be concentrated in China, altough they seem to have quite a reasonable force in Egypt. Our Panther tanks are the most advanced but we still lack the numbers of the Soviets. Luckily the Soviets still have more T26 than T34. Our Kampfgruppe Argentinia consists mainly of outdated Panzer IIIg and tons of German Security divisions. Our main Problem is the Kriegsmarine. While we feature tons of UBs we lack capital ships in the Pazific. However the Hauptquatier granted Admiral Dönitz that all major coastal cities now produce Hindenburg class ships. New York and Caracas are ordered to build carriers for close air support. In march 1942 we plan to sent a fleet of 8 Hindenburg class ships with 3 excort carriers into the Pazific, they should see action there in July. We don t think we can invade Hawaii earlier.
Argentinia and Chile should be doable in the first months of 1942. However we are somewhat embarrassed that we can t give or troops there Naval support as the Argentinians outclass our ships there.
The British Exile Empire is our closest rival. They feature fewer tanks than the soviets but almost no obsolete types anymore. They rival our airpower and have the largest surface fleet tied with the US consisting mostly of destroyer flotillas.
However they have the strategic disadvantage that the can not attack us right now because of the Turkish remains as a roadblock and Grozny is a mojor obstacle in invading southern Russia.
In China they have to figh both the remaining Japanese and the Russians.
The US are reduced to Dutch Harbor which is a desolate place, the Philipenes and Hawaii. However they have the most surviving capital ships right now (although we are close in finishing 8 Hindenburg class hips which should turn the tide). Their airforce is reasonable. However whith their lack of production and citizens they are doomed. Right now the are still harassing the coasts of Deutsch-Kalifornien.
France is still a medium power with strong positions in Africa. However their Asian possesions are minor and aren t impressive. Their main advantage is that any attack by me would invite the Tommies to counterattack. Maybe Crete is the only city we can savely take.
Italy is a joke right now, featuring a desolate Sardinian capital and a desperate Cyprus colony. They feature 2 infantry, 1 garrison and a special fortress. Their so called navy is a single sub operating in the Atlantic. I wonder why the Allies hessitate with their final death blow.
The Soviets are still a mojor power. However they missed the opportunity early in the war to take Iraq instead of some Persian cities. They lacked the insight that with the fall of Iraq, the Brits would have been cut in half, disabling their tank and airforce production in Africa. Now the Brits even seem to trade the French everything the French need to build tanks in Algeria. Attacking the Axis was fruitless for the Soviets, too, since they only siezed the hamlet of Mohe. Their airforce is lost to the Königsberg antiaircraft battery and some cities in Europe are lost to us as well (Kiew, Odessa, Sevastopol, Llow and Lublin). Karkov was destroyed by themselves as they tried to recapture the city from us. Their only gains from the Allies are Tabriz which is desolate after changing hands so often and Kabul.
Japan seems to have lost their fleet early to the US. While it was a Phyrrus victory for Uncle Sam as they were unable to defend themselves, the Japanese Empire was fatally wounded too. Without the Imperial Navy support the advance in southern China stalled obviously. The British ability to build Matildas finished them off together with the swarming Chinese. As the current timetable for the invasion of Hawaii is scheduled in late August 1942, it seems that the Japanese Imperial abmitions are most likely doomed. The temporary cease fire with the Soviets give them only limited benefit as we expect the British to be able to defend both to the Soviets and the Japanese.
The Gneisenau is returning badly damaged to Alaska and even if it survives it will take months for us the Kriegsmarine to intercpt a British convoi again. The Imperial Navy is not able to operate in near China because of the British air supperiority and is outgunned by the Americans.
I even wonder if the British will go after the Soviets or the Japanese mainland if the prevail in the Manchurai.
The Chinese are in a desolate condition because of many key cities are now under British protectoriate. Persia is left in ruins. Only Finnland is the only minor power which has not lost anything yet. However the Reich provides them all resources for free or nominal fees.
2.0: I tried something odd: In my high aggression game with extremly earl sealion and no Fall Gelb I already published I took an alternative road. From the British Islands I shipped my troops directly to Canada.
My landfall near Halifax hit the Canadians and Uncle Sam in total surprise. My forces featured 12 armored and 12 infantry divisions and almost the complete Luftwaffe (in Europe France seemed to lost all their fighters in their invasion of Italy, some of their bombers seem to bombard the Russians on their attack of Damaskus from former Persia). As I took an airport in Greenland I managed to bridge all my planes without using a single carrier. With the artillery support of Gneisenau, Graf Spee and Deutschland Halifax was taken in a week. Because the Tommies featured Matilda tanks the Hauptquatier decided to go south and invade the USA with their weak tanks. Their airforce was no match and destroyed on the ground with a single loss of a DO17 unit in the whole campaign. The next week a force of several dozen destroyers showed up but hessitated to attack the German fleet araound the Gneisenau. Our UBs lurking beneath turned the sea red like a piranha swarm. After we blitzed south up to Boston the Americans counterattacked through the woods north of Cleveland. They are not trained in the combined forces tactics of the Reich. The Luftwaffe pounded them from above and quick Panzer counterstrikes finished the weakened tanks. After a few weeks we destroyed some 20 US tank divisions with any casualities. After the Americans depleted their forces the Wehrmacht was free to intrude deeper into US territory. The US HQ obviously decided on building fighters right now. It turned out to be futile since we are able to take out their weak defended cities so fast that they are all destroyed on the ground.
Kampfgruppe 3 is driving west in the north, Kampfgruppe B is following the railway to san Francisco while Kampfgruppe C is driving south.
The only real resistance we faced was in the Spokane, Las Vegas area where Kampfgruppe A stalled because of British attacks from the north and the rough terrain, while kampfgruppe B lost two Pz divisions in an attempt to relieve Kampfgruppe A while the US surprised us from the west. In August US resistance crumbled everywhere but Puerto Rico and Spokane where the Bristish intervened. We took advantage of the Brits diverting their troops and or fresh reinforcements of 18 divisions landed in Halifax and took east Canada despite their fine tanks. During almost the whole campaign bombers where the main measure of defense along with American build German security divisions. This was neccessary due to extremely limited reinforcements. As a result civil resistance endured until 1941. After we secured Spokane and the Calgary area we reorganized our forces. Kampfgruppe B was slitted between the other two. Kampfgruppe A continued driving north while C cut through Mexico to Panama and Georgetown. Late October all North American but puerto Rico was part of the Reich. We now concentrated on suppressing civil resistance. The invasion of Puerto Rico in December turned out to be bloody as we lost a Marine and a SS unit, both elite.
Maybe we were over confident now because in the coming campaign of the invasion of Brasil we lost both the Graf Spee and the Deutschland to the Brasilian Navy (April 1941).
Meanwhile France invaded Italy and landed in Albania. We managed to drive them back into the Med after they even dared to wrestle Thessaloniki from us.
The brits reorganized extremly well after their capital moved to Calcutta. They took all Italian cities in Africa but Murzuk (by the French). They lost Kabul to the Soviets however. In Asia they took Thailand but one city (Chinese) recaptured Hong Kong and kept driving north. The Japanese didn t seem to matche the Matilda tanks. After the Brits took a few cities the Soviets made peace with the allies and attacked Japan instead in late 1940. Their attacks on the Reich turned out to be weak since we reinforced our cities with German 88s and air defense batteries. In their first wave of attack the Soviets lost some 50 air units on Königsberg. This seemed to intimidate them since they retreated their tanks after a few weeks and agreed to a peace agreement with us after they took the city of Mohe. In the following months the British advanced and took all of China south of the line Penking Port Arthur (in dezember 1941). However Shanghai has been holding out for 6 months as a Japanese stronghold before it was destroyed by the British. We monitored the British Juggernaut with Gneisenau and UBs in the second half of the year.
2nd half of 1941 we took South America but Chile and southern Argentinia. The Argentinians only feature infantry but in such numbers that the even scared our new Panther divisions by swarming them in dozens. Chile seems to have even more troops. Meanwhile our assault on Hawaii failed. The American fleet turned out to be fully intact. In the whole battle of North America we did not see any capital ship but 2 CL and 3 heavy cruisers and they lost their home country while their fleet was out for picnic in the Pazific. Meanwhile we managed to advanced up to Kiew in Europe. As we spent most of our troops to America we can advance only slowly. Our rocket artillery remains the backbone of our forces mixed with 88s and a few Panthers.
Spain razed Lisbon in mid 1941 only to be invaded by the French a few weeks later. The French advanced into Russian Persia from Syria, too. However thei drive to Grozny turned out into a bloody massacre. We took advantage of that and overrun the French after we made peace with Russia. In dezember 1941 we control all continental France. Corsica was destroyed by our invasion after we had to bomb them to dust. The Soviets retook Tabriz. Teheran changed hands between France-Soviets-Persians-Soviets-British in 1941 being the most intense spot of fighting.
A rather odd report reached us theat the French took Mohe from the Soviets.
Final report, new year 1942.
The Reich is the most powerful nation, featuring the most troops, and most people under its control. However unable to forsee our gains we build the forbidden palace in Europe leaving the resources of America prone to corruption. Only New York and Caracas and to a lesser extent Cleveland and Denver turn out to be really productive. Our main production centers are the Reich and the Reichsprotektoriate England and Norway. Milan which we grapped from the French seems to catch up quickly. France will need a few months to become productive while Spain and Italy are in ruins after changing hands twice. The Luftwaffe is still the largest airforce worldwide together with Brits. Whoever we need to invest quite a lot if we ever want to fight them again. Luckily the RAF seems to be concentrated in China, altough they seem to have quite a reasonable force in Egypt. Our Panther tanks are the most advanced but we still lack the numbers of the Soviets. Luckily the Soviets still have more T26 than T34. Our Kampfgruppe Argentinia consists mainly of outdated Panzer IIIg and tons of German Security divisions. Our main Problem is the Kriegsmarine. While we feature tons of UBs we lack capital ships in the Pazific. However the Hauptquatier granted Admiral Dönitz that all major coastal cities now produce Hindenburg class ships. New York and Caracas are ordered to build carriers for close air support. In march 1942 we plan to sent a fleet of 8 Hindenburg class ships with 3 excort carriers into the Pazific, they should see action there in July. We don t think we can invade Hawaii earlier.
Argentinia and Chile should be doable in the first months of 1942. However we are somewhat embarrassed that we can t give or troops there Naval support as the Argentinians outclass our ships there.
The British Exile Empire is our closest rival. They feature fewer tanks than the soviets but almost no obsolete types anymore. They rival our airpower and have the largest surface fleet tied with the US consisting mostly of destroyer flotillas.
However they have the strategic disadvantage that the can not attack us right now because of the Turkish remains as a roadblock and Grozny is a mojor obstacle in invading southern Russia.
In China they have to figh both the remaining Japanese and the Russians.
The US are reduced to Dutch Harbor which is a desolate place, the Philipenes and Hawaii. However they have the most surviving capital ships right now (although we are close in finishing 8 Hindenburg class hips which should turn the tide). Their airforce is reasonable. However whith their lack of production and citizens they are doomed. Right now the are still harassing the coasts of Deutsch-Kalifornien.
France is still a medium power with strong positions in Africa. However their Asian possesions are minor and aren t impressive. Their main advantage is that any attack by me would invite the Tommies to counterattack. Maybe Crete is the only city we can savely take.
Italy is a joke right now, featuring a desolate Sardinian capital and a desperate Cyprus colony. They feature 2 infantry, 1 garrison and a special fortress. Their so called navy is a single sub operating in the Atlantic. I wonder why the Allies hessitate with their final death blow.
The Soviets are still a mojor power. However they missed the opportunity early in the war to take Iraq instead of some Persian cities. They lacked the insight that with the fall of Iraq, the Brits would have been cut in half, disabling their tank and airforce production in Africa. Now the Brits even seem to trade the French everything the French need to build tanks in Algeria. Attacking the Axis was fruitless for the Soviets, too, since they only siezed the hamlet of Mohe. Their airforce is lost to the Königsberg antiaircraft battery and some cities in Europe are lost to us as well (Kiew, Odessa, Sevastopol, Llow and Lublin). Karkov was destroyed by themselves as they tried to recapture the city from us. Their only gains from the Allies are Tabriz which is desolate after changing hands so often and Kabul.
Japan seems to have lost their fleet early to the US. While it was a Phyrrus victory for Uncle Sam as they were unable to defend themselves, the Japanese Empire was fatally wounded too. Without the Imperial Navy support the advance in southern China stalled obviously. The British ability to build Matildas finished them off together with the swarming Chinese. As the current timetable for the invasion of Hawaii is scheduled in late August 1942, it seems that the Japanese Imperial abmitions are most likely doomed. The temporary cease fire with the Soviets give them only limited benefit as we expect the British to be able to defend both to the Soviets and the Japanese.
The Gneisenau is returning badly damaged to Alaska and even if it survives it will take months for us the Kriegsmarine to intercpt a British convoi again. The Imperial Navy is not able to operate in near China because of the British air supperiority and is outgunned by the Americans.
I even wonder if the British will go after the Soviets or the Japanese mainland if the prevail in the Manchurai.
The Chinese are in a desolate condition because of many key cities are now under British protectoriate. Persia is left in ruins. Only Finnland is the only minor power which has not lost anything yet. However the Reich provides them all resources for free or nominal fees.
IarnGreiper
Warlord
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Adler, can you provide an online link to the Gamestar article or is it part of the print version only?
DrNick
Chieftain
Hi Rocoteh,
Sorry I have been AWOL again from this thread. I was on vacation for a few weeks and since we go back I am dealing with both a major house remodel and my company moving our building (well the people anyway
).
I have continued my SU game on and off over the last couple of weeks and here are general comments, hopefully it will be either interesting or at least entertaining.
It is now mid-1942 and the SU has conquered all of mainland Eurasia, Africa, the UK, the Japanese home islands and some of the New Guinea archipelago. Very recently I have built up my Atlantic naval forces (after merging the Baltic and Black sea fleets) and took Rekjavick (?sp) and the St Johns. I want to try the Red invasion of mainland North America!
In the Pacific, I used transports and Marines in the north and Paratroops and air support down in Malaysia-New Guinea. I now have the auto production of Paratroopers from my cities plus those of England and Italy. Not sure if those auto-productions are meant to keep functioning after capture, but I sure needed the extra Paras! Also, ChiComm, Hungary and Bulgaria Inf continue to produce after capture.
It's now SU Red on Allies Blue with some Japanese island remenants holding on and getting swept up as I have time. The US bomber forces in the Pacific seem to randomly pick a city or two in the asian mainland and pound away. I just started experiencing similar things in the Atlantic off St Johns. Those B-29s and B-17s are really devastating if you don't put up combo of thick fighters and AA plus building city AA defense ASAP after capture. My own Yaks and Migs just don't do well against allied fighters. Was there no late war Russian fighter with quality near the P-51 or at least the Wildcat?
The red army is hugely powerfull and I have switched over to only production of IS-1s and -2s, but maintain a force of nearly 200 T34s (76s and 85s). The SU militia production has become ridiculous as I have mosterous hordes of the 2-8-1 inf defending every city I own.
I am going to play this game out till I break the back of the Anglo-Americans and then switch to the newest version of the game. This has been and continues to be the best scenario I have played for Civ3 and I look forward to any new versions. Thanks very much.
DrNick
Sorry I have been AWOL again from this thread. I was on vacation for a few weeks and since we go back I am dealing with both a major house remodel and my company moving our building (well the people anyway
).I have continued my SU game on and off over the last couple of weeks and here are general comments, hopefully it will be either interesting or at least entertaining.
It is now mid-1942 and the SU has conquered all of mainland Eurasia, Africa, the UK, the Japanese home islands and some of the New Guinea archipelago. Very recently I have built up my Atlantic naval forces (after merging the Baltic and Black sea fleets) and took Rekjavick (?sp) and the St Johns. I want to try the Red invasion of mainland North America!
In the Pacific, I used transports and Marines in the north and Paratroops and air support down in Malaysia-New Guinea. I now have the auto production of Paratroopers from my cities plus those of England and Italy. Not sure if those auto-productions are meant to keep functioning after capture, but I sure needed the extra Paras! Also, ChiComm, Hungary and Bulgaria Inf continue to produce after capture.
It's now SU Red on Allies Blue with some Japanese island remenants holding on and getting swept up as I have time. The US bomber forces in the Pacific seem to randomly pick a city or two in the asian mainland and pound away. I just started experiencing similar things in the Atlantic off St Johns. Those B-29s and B-17s are really devastating if you don't put up combo of thick fighters and AA plus building city AA defense ASAP after capture. My own Yaks and Migs just don't do well against allied fighters. Was there no late war Russian fighter with quality near the P-51 or at least the Wildcat?
The red army is hugely powerfull and I have switched over to only production of IS-1s and -2s, but maintain a force of nearly 200 T34s (76s and 85s). The SU militia production has become ridiculous as I have mosterous hordes of the 2-8-1 inf defending every city I own.
I am going to play this game out till I break the back of the Anglo-Americans and then switch to the newest version of the game. This has been and continues to be the best scenario I have played for Civ3 and I look forward to any new versions. Thanks very much.
DrNick
Bob1475
Prince
Rocoteh and All -
I have returned from my vacation. If anyone has ability to send me the latest BETA or other tests I will playtest.
I have returned from my vacation. If anyone has ability to send me the latest BETA or other tests I will playtest.
Bob1475
Prince
Found that Rocoteh had sent me a HUGE file before I went on vacation. This is version 1.5 of the HUGE game. It is truly beautiful but may change much of the strategy used in the past.
I started as Soviet Russia on SID level. Quickly found out that the Soviets are not ready to play. Noted that the Poles moved forces WEST probably because of undefended cities in Soviet. Exited game and restarted as Germany SID.
First note - Bombers cannot reach UK from Berlin. Perhaps later generation bombers will have longer range.
Launched attack on Poland will preparing defense in West. Took Danzig in first turn. Weakened much of Polish army and airforce on the ground. Attacks by Belgian and Dutch infantry turned back with minimal casualties. French moving troops around but no attack.
Week 37 - Took Radom and Lublin with light casualties. Pounding Warsaw. French destroyers seen in North Atlantic. French attack Milan and RAZE it!
Week 38 - Warsaw taken. Poles finished. Redeploying forces for Western front.
7 French planes shot down by Luftwaffe and SAM at Freiburg. French navy in action off Amsterdam.
Week 39 - Amsterdam and Rotterdam taken easily.
Week 40 - Blitz continues as we take Antwerp. French moving forces towards Bologna and Innsbruck. Luftwaffe supporting Italians to avoid another front.
Week 41 - Brussels and Namur taken. French counterattacks turned back.
Weeks 42-43 - Luftwaffe concentrates on supporting Italians. Workers beginning on railroads.
Week 44 - Verdun taken after large tank battle. Verdun lost back to the French reserves.
Week 45 - Verdun taken and held.
Week 47 - Lille taken. French now giving up on Southern front.
Week 48 - Huge battle ends in Wehrmacht taking Strasburg - key was Luftwaffe support no longer diverted to Southern front.
Week 50 - Dijon taken. It is now clearly only a matter of time as our Panzers are rolling off assembly lines faster than losses. First army formed!
Week 1 1940 - Lyon is ours!
Week 3 - Marseille taken but French navy escapes to Corsica.
Week 4+ - French navy bombarding Marseilles. Only Luftaffe in position to counter.
Week 5 - Toulouse taken. Italians have been meandering North - not attacking the French! What is it with the Italians? I give them a ROP and they go into Soviet Russian - perhaps to attack China or to attempt to get to Africa??
Week 6 - Torino
Week 7 - Bordeaux
Week 9 - Paris is taken!
I stop the game as their is really no challenge.
Notes - French seem weaker perhaps because I did not have to worry about British or Russian attacks.
Seemed more difficult to keep German people happy even with Temple, Col, Cath and Marketplace. Perhaps this is because of ability of cities to spread out i.e. fewer entertainers?
Research very slow - did not get an advance during this game.
Game certainly will be different but just as much fun! Look forward to additional versions.
I started as Soviet Russia on SID level. Quickly found out that the Soviets are not ready to play. Noted that the Poles moved forces WEST probably because of undefended cities in Soviet. Exited game and restarted as Germany SID.
First note - Bombers cannot reach UK from Berlin. Perhaps later generation bombers will have longer range.
Launched attack on Poland will preparing defense in West. Took Danzig in first turn. Weakened much of Polish army and airforce on the ground. Attacks by Belgian and Dutch infantry turned back with minimal casualties. French moving troops around but no attack.
Week 37 - Took Radom and Lublin with light casualties. Pounding Warsaw. French destroyers seen in North Atlantic. French attack Milan and RAZE it!
Week 38 - Warsaw taken. Poles finished. Redeploying forces for Western front.
7 French planes shot down by Luftwaffe and SAM at Freiburg. French navy in action off Amsterdam.
Week 39 - Amsterdam and Rotterdam taken easily.
Week 40 - Blitz continues as we take Antwerp. French moving forces towards Bologna and Innsbruck. Luftwaffe supporting Italians to avoid another front.
Week 41 - Brussels and Namur taken. French counterattacks turned back.
Weeks 42-43 - Luftwaffe concentrates on supporting Italians. Workers beginning on railroads.
Week 44 - Verdun taken after large tank battle. Verdun lost back to the French reserves.
Week 45 - Verdun taken and held.
Week 47 - Lille taken. French now giving up on Southern front.
Week 48 - Huge battle ends in Wehrmacht taking Strasburg - key was Luftwaffe support no longer diverted to Southern front.
Week 50 - Dijon taken. It is now clearly only a matter of time as our Panzers are rolling off assembly lines faster than losses. First army formed!
Week 1 1940 - Lyon is ours!
Week 3 - Marseille taken but French navy escapes to Corsica.
Week 4+ - French navy bombarding Marseilles. Only Luftaffe in position to counter.
Week 5 - Toulouse taken. Italians have been meandering North - not attacking the French! What is it with the Italians? I give them a ROP and they go into Soviet Russian - perhaps to attack China or to attempt to get to Africa??
Week 6 - Torino
Week 7 - Bordeaux
Week 9 - Paris is taken!
I stop the game as their is really no challenge.
Notes - French seem weaker perhaps because I did not have to worry about British or Russian attacks.
Seemed more difficult to keep German people happy even with Temple, Col, Cath and Marketplace. Perhaps this is because of ability of cities to spread out i.e. fewer entertainers?
Research very slow - did not get an advance during this game.
Game certainly will be different but just as much fun! Look forward to additional versions.
IarnGreiper
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BTW I found an exploit by accident (Oktoberfest here, I was drunk and lazy). If you have a large empire you can set all commerce to science. You will loose one random improvement per turn which is nothing to the tech gained in some cases.
IarnGreiper
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2.0 minor issue: V2 rockets lack a rebase command.
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