I like Epic because it gives me enough time to exterminate my enemies on a conquest run or to complete a space ship for the space race. It gives me breathing room when I play warlord or Noble when I feel lucky. I tried it with Deity just to be stupid. After 30 turns I was out.
Marathon, pretty much because all the reasons ppl said before, it gives a bit of more "real touch", I can take my time which I like, tought I agree, when we reach the 1500 the game like "halts" it's a bit boring sometimes, u need to have "entertaining" (entertaining as agressive ) neighbours to enjoy the game..lol
my first post on forums although i visit it qutie often ;p
just felt i had to post here... ;p
so i play on...
Epic with a lil trick...
well i edited game speed xml and changed the tech rate on epic from 150 to 650 or 750 (gotta check that)
why did i do so?
was sick of units becoming obsolete too fast or just building soo slooow on marathon -on epic with LOWER TECH SPEED (erm its more than 2 times slower than marathon) i have the fell for every age (archer/axe war ) - medieval age (thats really an age) - and so on
the date goes quie obsolete thou (1300-1400 ad and some ppl still stick with ancient units but not often) but its fun as i can wage war in evey time i want - i remeber one game that i played loong with not managing to kill Germany at earlier stages and barely lived tru their panzer era.
so in short
EPIC
with slow tech
monarch difficulty = FUN
Emperror = Fun but harder <- this i play most
Deity = didnt try yet
i think i missed 1 difficulty lvl..
btw - you can edit the time tables too so the date would be more hmmm accuarte to the inventions;p - but i only added few hundgred (or thosand ?) of turns avaiadable
Welcome to the forums, Kozzie! I tried Deity, once: I was being out-teched by Shaka just before my fledgling empire was overrun by Barbs.
I think I was being out-teched by the Barbs as well.
Letely I've been playing a lot of games on Normal speed and I've started to like it more. Don't know if I'd change my vote, but the AI does seem more competent on Normal than on Marathon.
Letely I've been playing a lot of games on Normal speed and I've started to like it more. Don't know if I'd change my vote, but the AI does seem more competent on Normal than on Marathon.
I think another poster put it best: The developers designed the AI around normal speed (and conditions). The Marathon, Epic, and Quick AI are all adjusted to normal conditions and therefore rounding errors and design flaws are bound to... abound.
As I said before, though, for me its because I play the speed most that I enjoy it the most, AI notwithstanding. Memorizing certain beaker limits, numeric requirement conditions, and estimated AI/Barbarian responses make it comfortable.
I've been playing Epic more at the behest of HoF recommendations and I've started grooving with some of the numbers and charts. I'm sure that in time I will like the game speeds near equally.
I like quick when I occasionally play a LAN game with someone. Otherwise it is just takes way too long to finish. Usually its me against the AI, and then I always play normal. It feels right, and marathon seems boring and I don't have all the time in world. Although I might try epic..
I thought Quick changed the game so that it felt faster. That's not true. Quick makes the game not last as long. This is a benefit in itself, but as I stated in another way earlier and am restating now:
"A game of Civ on Quick can often be too short, like a roll in the hay where nobody really feels satisfied, just sticky."
I prefer epic to normal as it gives me some time to focus on what's happening. I haven't tried marathon yet, but I think I'll stick with epic for a while.
You should have seen some Bostonians trying to make sense of my French and Japanese friends talking with me. It took them a good five minutes to figure out that we were all speaking English.
I kind of wish they didn't figure it out, otherwise I would have looked like a total polyglot.
You should have seen some Bostonians trying to make sense of my French and Japanese friends talking with me. It took them a good five minutes to figure out that we were all speaking English.
I kind of wish they didn't figure it out, otherwise I would have looked like a total polyglot.
As for speeds, I tried out Normal just recently. It's not at all bad, but the biggest problem for me is outdated units. I built a wonderful army of 8 CR2 swords, 4 varied axemen, 4 C2 spears, 6 D2 longbows (I managed to Oracle Feudalism), 6 varied catapults and 2 Horse archers. All Alex had was archers and horse archers (he didn't have copper or iron yet.) By the time I got to him, in about 20 turns or so, he had managed to build a city on top of a copper resource, get about 12 phalanxes, and research Feudalism and even Machinery somehow. It's stuff like that that gets more or less eliminated at the Epic game speed.
I was so pissed off (especially after 1 turn of war, then Monty declared on me and brought Mansa along for the ride) that I removed ALL of Alex, Monty, and Mansa's techs.
The rest of the speeds seem like a waste of the franchise. Even movement points for workers matters on normal speeds. It doesn't seem to me like this is what they were going for. I don't blitz the AI with bee-lined technologies (usually), so the unit obsolescence isn't a big issue to me.
Marathon also makes it a hell of a lot more challenging to repel AI invasions, in the case you're not a warmonger. Throw in Aggressive AI and you've got 2x the likelihood of being declared on (well, not that high), nearly 2x the size stack coming at you, and 1/3 of the time to put up garrison troops. It forces me to develop strategies for a standing army. I think it's kind of cheesy that defensive garrisons get mass-produced instantaneously by slave labor anyhow, both when the human and AI do it.
I also tend to play my games with an objective in mind, and quit sometimes when its all down hill, since I know that on marathon it'll take forever. I understand that a lot of people don't have the time for it.
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) neighbours to enjoy the game..lol
