YouTube axing war videos

[Stevenpfo]

I didn't know that the boys were allowed to drive around with video cameras. That sounds kinda stoopid!!! Why would they do that?

It's too bad, though, that 'Turka Turka Mohammed Jihad' song was pretty funny. It pissed off alot of people, though.

It's like if you were an emergency room nurse, would you walk around your job taking videos of emergency room patients?

It's not very nice!

A lot of times there are either military or civilian journalists following the troops around. I know there was with the Canadian troops in Afghanistan who were in firefights.

 

[nonconformist]

I like this policy. There's something a bit disturbing about the way these videos tend to glorify the ease with which our military can kill the enemy. It seems a bit obscene to me to put the violent deaths of people, even enemies, to rock music for people's enjoyment.

It can be an ninteresting case study.

Looking at footage from Fallujah, it shows the pure contempt for the average Iraqi the military has-it's a policy of "blow the building to **** first, occupy it, then apologise to whatever might have been in there and not shooting at us".
Then dubbing it over with the heavy rap that 16 year old kids make the "Own3d" videos with.

 

[Winner]

The cull has already started - doesn't matter if you have permission of all involved, doesn't matter if it's a homemade set to music or your own personal combat experience, they're all being weeded out.

Censoring bastards!

Based on this;-



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/07/26/wtapes26.xml

So, the field is now open for the Jihadis to make all the vids they want, but God help you if you want to make anything even remotely pro Western.

There's a lot of very angry military other ranks about now.

Oh, and if you want to complain about it directly, you can phone YouTube on 650-343-2960. If calling from outside the US, please add the international dialling code.

Good, you're starting to understand what I mean when I say that this civilizations is going down.

 

[Hakim]

Where does it say that YouTube is axing war videos?

 

[CruddyLeper]

Where does it say that YouTube is axing war videos?

I got the news from people who were hosting collections.

Try searching it now... just put in place names like Ramadi, Fallujah, Baghdad.

Maybe 70% of the vids are gone. Up in smoke.

 

[mdwh]

Who cares? Want to post your video? Post it somewhere else.

Its a private site, they can host (and not host) what they please.

Perhaps they thought videos of actual war should not be used for entertainment.

The article says it's Pentagon's doing, not YouTube's, and therefore this would apply to any site. It's just that YouTube is the one which most people use.

Indeed, the article doesn't even focus on YouTube specifically at all - it says "video-sharing sites such as YouTube.com and Ogrish.com". The title of this thread is misleading; that's not what the article says.

 

[warpus]

The article says it's Pentagon's doing, not YouTube's, and therefore this would apply to any site. It's just that YouTube is the one which most people use.

Indeed, the article doesn't even focus on YouTube specifically at all - it says "video-sharing sites such as YouTube.com and Ogrish.com". The title of this thread is misleading; that's not what the article says.

So what? Post it on a server that isn't in the U.S.

 

[mdwh]

So what? Post it on a server that isn't in the U.S.

I doubt that will make any difference. The article talks about the Pentagon and the soldiers - it doesn't matter where the video is posted:

The song's composer, Cpl Joshua Belile, 23, was required to apologise.

An official investigation was launched, but the military discovered that his behaviour did not breach the marines' policy on internet posting, which is aimed only at ensuring confidentiality about planned combat operations and troop deployments.

The most severe action it could take was to require Cpl Belile to undergo informal counselling.

A new code of conduct on video postings is now being considered.

Is YouTube the one who is removing images? Is the Pentagon going after hosting sites? That's what people seem to be assuming - but that's not what I read in the article. It talks about the code of conduct for soldiers, which is between them and the army, and doesn't matter where they post the videos.

 

[warpus]

Is YouTube the one who is removing images? Is the Pentagon going after hosting sites? That's what people seem to be assuming - but that's not what I read in the article. It talks about the code of conduct for soldiers, which is between them and the army, and doesn't matter where they post the videos.

I see. Well.. That's between the soldier and their employers then.

I don't see it as a problem.

 

[Speedo]

What you are saying and what's in the article don't quite jive. Where does it say that YouTube is being ordered to remove the videos, or is even involved in the action of removing the videos?

It's well established that the military is within its rights to censor information coming from soldiers in a war zone.

 

[Jawz II]

some of those iraq videos really did make the us look bad, like the one with the mercenaries shooting at (seemingly random) iraqis from the back of their car, i dont have the link any more, but im sure if youre intrested in the iraq war, you probably have seen it already.

off topic, but once about a year ago, i did a video search in a P2P program on the word "iraq". i got some really strange hits.

1 of them was a video compilation of a sniper in iraq, shooting american troops.

 

[nonconformist]

1 of them was a video compilation of a sniper in iraq, shooting american troops.

The one called "Juaba" or something, is it?

He* is by all aco****s quite an expert sniper, and has gunned down a fair number of coalition troops, in, I believe, Fallujah.

He was always quick to relocate, and whenever his (empty) spot wass discovered, there was always a casing, with a message proclaiming, in broad terms, victory for Iraq.

Eventually, he* was caught after a soldier's body armour caught a bullet, and it was traced back to a van, which had been converted to be rigged as a silent sniper station.

I'll dig a link up.

*I say "he", but it is unsure whether it is all the work of one guy, or of a number.
The Modus Operandi would lead tro the former conclusion, however.

 

[Rossiya]

Just translate the nasty video names into Arabic. If YouTube still moans, sue them for racism.

 

[nonconformist]

Here's a link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juba_(sniper)

This guy is creedited with up to a hundred US servicemen hit

"Juba" is the nickname associated with a character represented as a sniper involved with the Iraqi insurgency, said to have killed and wounded up to a hundred United States soldiers. The sniper is represented as firing only once before moving from his position, leaving behind little evidence of his whereabouts.

Juba's existence has not been certified by any military source, but video footage purporting to be of this character's attack has been disseminated on the internet. It is said that the same individual has carried out a number of such attacks.

A single cartridge case and a note have been found at the location where the sniper was believed to have been. The message says, in Arabic, "What has been taken in blood cannot be regained except by blood. Baghdad Sniper." These items were found after the sniper attack when buildings were searched by U.S. forces. [citation needed] It is not known whether Juba is a single sniper, or a number of people killing people under the "Juba" name as copycats, or if Juba in fact exists at all.

In November 2005, a video appeared on the internet [citation needed], attributed to the Islamic Army in Iraq, which may be a real insurgent group. It contained images of male United States soldiers falling to the ground, allegedly due to Juba's attacks.

 

[Elrohir]

How can you respect US servicemen when you see them prancing around to rap music or whatever while tossing grenades about?

I'm pretty sure the music is added later; they would have to have pretty large speakers to be able to hear that in the middle of a firefight. As for the part about tossing grenades around, what's wrong with that? If they're killing innocents, then they should be punished, and we should be glad that they're posting the video - more evidence to convict them, to send them to jail for the rest of their disgraceful lives. If they're killing terrorists, why should I be disturbed by seeing it, as I support it?

 

[Jawz II]

Here's a link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juba_(sniper)

This guy is creedited with up to a hundred US servicemen hit

ive actually read about the juba guy, but i think the video i got was named something else. in the beginning there was some arabic song with a little political message (faces of bush and blair and a few others with a snipers cross hair moving over them and BANG!).

in the video, there was video footage of 7-8 shootings, i dont know if the shots were heard outside of the hiding place, but they didnt sound like anything bigger than a regular AK.

every shot was followed by an "allahu akbar". there was also photos of the old honey pot tactic from vietnam.

1st pic soldier down, 2 others standing next, 2nd pic q soldier is trying to drag the wounded man into cover (and so on until) last pic where all 3 are down. that made me feel really bad.

 

[jimbob27]

Here's a link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juba_(sniper)

This guy is creedited with up to a hundred US servicemen hit

Juba is a myth. A phantom who lives with the easter bunny. It's just a bunch of sniper videos which people have tried to link to one guy for propeganda reasons.

 

[Jawz II]

Juba is a myth. A phantom who lives with the easter bunny. It's just a bunch of sniper videos which people have tried to link to one guy for propeganda reasons.

propaganda reasons? how is many snipers worse propaganda than 1 sniper?

 

[BaneBlade]

They also show tactics. The last thing we need is jihad johny studying how my nations military conducts ops from thier POV. If your enamy knows how you are waging war they can adjust.

The native population is a far better and reliable source of troop positioning, and the tactics we use are theoretically the same all around the world.

No, that's not what I'm saying. The liberals are not creating the mess, nobody is creating the mess, there is no mess. The liberals are just creating the illusion of mess.

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[AceChilla]

To bad, real war videos always entertain me, from both sides, and the Iraqi sniper wasnt really that good, the videos I saw from him you would clearly see he didnt hit the head but often the body armour instead. They didnt really show the aftermath but I bet alot of guys hit by him only had some bruses on their chest.

Try checking the videos of American snipers hunting Taliban snipers. Thats entertainment