1421

Do you believe Gavin Menzies' book, 1421?

  • Yes!

    Votes: 9 7.8%
  • No!

    Votes: 79 68.1%
  • I don't know what you're talking about...

    Votes: 11 9.5%
  • I like pie.

    Votes: 17 14.7%

  • Total voters
    116
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Im thinking a world with a Ming Dynasty colonization Policies
 
What do the Anglo-Saxons ... i.e. the English ... have to do with Ancient Greece?
Well, the chart only shows the existence of influence, it doesn't show the proportions. Obviously the Anglo-Saxons were influence by their Germanic ancestors more than the Romans, but it's a fact that the Christianisation of Britain brought Greco-Roman influence,even beyond religion. For example, the Anglo-Saxons abandoned their runic alphabet and adopted a form of Latin alphabet (modified to include "W", "ð" and "Þ").
(And the distinction between "Anglo-Saxons" and "English" is, I admit, arbitrary, intended purely to reflect the distinction between the pre- and post-Norse invasion English).

You forgot Poland.
AH, right. Well, just correct the first bit to say:

Poland
V
Mesopotamia
V
Phoenicians
etc.

;)
 
No, Poland rules the world.... :king:

And to think we almost could've....

(...Courland should've been more of a colonizer.... damned dutch taking over polish colonies.... damned russians for everything else :lol: .....)
 
Im thinking a world with a Ming Dynasty colonization Policies

basically like this:


The Priorities of the Ming Colonization are...

1. Sinicize the Aztecs.
2. Sinicize the Incas.
3. Sinicize the Iroqouis.
4. Sinicize the Missisippi Peoples.
5. Sinicize the River Basin Peoples
6. Sinicize the Mayans.
7. Sinicize the Eskimos.

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and so on.
 
basically like this:


The Priorities of the Ming Colonization are...

1. Sinicize the Aztecs.
2. Sinicize the Incas.
3. Sinicize the Iroqouis.
4. Sinicize the Missisippi Peoples.
5. Sinicize the River Basin Peoples
6. Sinicize the Mayans.
7. Sinicize the Eskimos.

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and so on.

forgot the caribs....
 
ah, of course, Khan of Kielbasa. i was thinking of putting in Poland too. :p
 
Needlessly complicated? Maybe. Accurate? Not completely. Worth the twenty minutes it took to create? Almost certainly not.

So, yeah, I have no good reason to post this. ;)

:lol:

Your last line lively sums up what most of the posts on Civfanatics should have as disclaimers.
 
18 points for Greece from beating Moldova, Latvia and Luxembourg twice.
18 points to Switzerland from beating Moldova, Latvia and Luxembourg twice.
18 points to Israel from beating Moldova, Latvia and Luxembourg twice.
from there, Greece will have a hard time playing Israel but still come out on top. probably in a game ending in 1-0 or 3-2 for Greece. 6 points to Greece. greece has 24. Switzerland plays Israel. I'm not sure what the outcome might be. possibly 1 win, 1 draw, or 2 wins (i don't think switzerland will lose twice or lose ounce and tie) getting 22 points or 24 points. Greece plays Switzerland. Greece wins twice. they have 30 points. Greece Tie twice. 26 points to greece, Switzerland either 24 or 26 points. Greece win ounce, tie ounce. 28 points for greece, 25 or 23 points for switzerland. Greece loses ounce, Ties ounce. 25 points for greece, and either 23 or 25 points for switzerland. Greece loses twice, (not sure of that happening...) greece 24 points, switzerland either 30 points or 28 points.

-Remember, that is only my prediction, not including screw ups made by the teams, no mistakes, and just possible outcomes.-
Who knows how different it'd be if greece loses to Latvia or something...

in all of those outcomes, Greece came first 4 times, swtizerland 2. although that list i made above is completely stupid and a waste of a half an hour... And i probably the most innacurate thing ever....

Wc 2010 qualifiers thread. Me in an arguement against some swiss guy he wondered why i thought greece will come first in the group. I answered with this, and it was one of the biggest waste of a half an hour in my life...

Back on topic: what if it was the polynesians instead of the chinese? see last post of page 2 for more info about the polynesians)
 
Then a few tribes were influenced. The Polynesians weren't exactly the stuff of empires.
 
The Chinese or Vikings would have a much better chance if their colonies' economies had taken off. But, the Chinese and Vikings did not have the funds.

Actually, their "colonies" either (in the case of the Chinese) never existed, or (in the case of the Vikings) were a temporary encampment. :p
 
^True. even if the Chinese did go around on their ships in a massive scale, they wouldn't really have colonies.
 
He says he's had DNA samples analyzed and they show evidence of Chinese ancestry all over North and South America. According to some theories the American populations came from Asia across a land bridge 40,000 years ago so common ancestry could mean many things, besides don't all human beings have highly similar DNA. I don't know enough about DNA analysis or the techniques Menzies used to know if his claim is valid.
 
How do you explain the Chinese DNA?

He says he's had DNA samples analyzed and they show evidence of Chinese ancestry all over North and South America. According to some theories the American populations came from Asia across a land bridge 40,000 years ago so common ancestry could mean many things, besides don't all human beings have highly similar DNA. I don't know enough about DNA analysis or the techniques Menzies used to know if his claim is valid.

Try looking around this site.

https://www3.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/atlas.html
 
How do you explain the Chinese DNA?

By pointing out that all humans share most of their DNA, and the Asians and Native Americans quite a lot of it. It's also kind of odd that the Native Americans have several unique genetic markers fairly consistently through their population... Not something you'd see from supposedly widespread genetic mixing...
 
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