2012- a modern catastrophology

[Weik]

Some guy on the internet claims that the real end date for the Mayan calendar is October 28, 2011.

Many people hear about the so-called end date of the Mayan calendar, and today some people have even created the illusion that the Mayan calendar was designed only to point out this end date. In reality, there is nothing to indicate that the ancient Maya who developed the Long Count calendar had any interest in what would happen as this calendar came to an end. Instead what the ancient Mayan scriptures talk about is its beginning. The exact date for this beginning was apparently based on the day of the year, August 11, when the sun was in zenith in Izapa, where most likely this calendar first came into use. Ancient Mayan inscriptions also talk about this time as the time when the First Father erected the World Tree so that the light could enter, a significant event in creation. The various dynasties in the different Mayan city-states would then try to track a relationship to this seminal event by First Father and legitimize their power based on this.

The fact that the Mayan Long Count was based on the day the sun was in zenith in Izapa, has however created a very significant misunderstanding among modern people, and this is that it would end on December 21, 2012. The particular date the sun is in zenith in this location obviously has no relevance in the rest of the world, but because of the power of tradition some will still adhere to it. In reality, the creation cycle that began as the First Father erected the World Tree will end on October 28, 2011. This day is also 13 Ahau in the sacred Mayan calendar, an energy with great prophetical relevance.

 

[Truthy]

The Mayan calendar doesn't end. It just flips over a digit, starts a new cycle. Nothing so exciting as the end of the world. That's a misinterpretation.

Admittedly at equivalent times in previous cycles the world was recreated, but that was because humans were screwed up in one way or another (in the form of jaguars, or monkeys) and didn't honor the gods properly. There are still Mayans around who honor the gods in one way or another, and we have a pretty good track record as a species, so I think we're safe.

Nailed it.

 

[Heretic_Cata]

So is this one of the hundreds of threads about 2012 or a thread where we make up words ?

 

[Ataxerxes]

So why exactly would the Mayans have known when the world ends? And if people actually believe that they did, shouldn't they therefore adhere to the old Mayan religion?

There you go again, inserting reasoning and logical conclusions into these threads.

 

[W|M]

The ENGLISHIFICATION of "megalocatastrophe" would be "megacatastrophe" you know.

Megalocatastrophe sounds way better. Also, it's Anglicization, not Englishification.

 

[Racsoviale]

I thought judgement day began August 27 1997

 

[Terxpahseyton]

And if people actually believe that they did, shouldn't they therefore adhere to the old Mayan religion?

To be vague: Just because they got one thing right they don't have to get everything right.
To be short: No.

 

[Hornblower]

So let me get this right if the hysteria is to be believed...
The Mayan's created a calendar that predicted the end of the world in 2012.
But the same soothsayers that predicted this didn't bother to see their own demise? ....Anyone, anyone?
I'm going with the cynics on this one and take it as a flipping over to the next digit. (Although I'm going to flip it over whilst sitting in my hamster powered bunker that I built for the Y2K catastrophe.)

 

[GoodGame]

NASA says its just an internet hoax.

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2012.html

Q: What is the origin of the prediction that the world will end in 2012?
A: The story started with claims that Nibiru, a supposed planet discovered by the Sumerians, is headed toward Earth. This catastrophe was initially predicted for May 2003, but when nothing happened the doomsday date was moved forward to December 2012. Then these two fables were linked to the end of one of the cycles in the ancient Mayan calendar at the winter solstice in 2012 -- hence the predicted doomsday date of December 21, 2012.

Q: Is there a planet or brown dwarf called Nibiru or Planet X or Eris that is approaching the Earth and threatening our planet with widespread destruction?
A: Nibiru and other stories about wayward planets are an Internet hoax. There is no factual basis for these claims. If Nibiru or Planet X were real and headed for an encounter with the Earth in 2012, astronomers would have been tracking it for at least the past decade, and it would be visible by now to the naked eye. Obviously, it does not exist. Eris is real, but it is a dwarf planet similar to Pluto that will remain in the outer solar system; the closest it can come to Earth is about 4 billion miles.

Fear Eris!




More reading: http://astrobiology.nasa.gov/ask-an...ibiru-and-doomsday-2012-questions-and-answers

 

[Plotinus]

To be vague: Just because they got one thing right they don't have to get everything right.
To be short: No.

To be rational: if they didn't get everything right, or at least if they didn't have access to some kind of supernatural or equally extraordinary knowledge that would make it reasonable to think they had any kind of insight into this kind of thing, why suppose that they did get (this) one thing right?

 

[innonimatu]

NASA says its just an internet hoax.

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2012.html

Oh, never mind that, tell us when is the next end--of-world date in an ancient calendar. There's money to be made of catastrophology, the trick is to stay ahead in the game - writing a bad movie script, a pathetic conspiracy-doomsday book, or something of the kind!

 

[Nick Carpathia]

I have a book on Biblical prophesy at home that clearly documents that the world is going to end sometime in the mid 80s when the Soviet Union and Egypt (Gog and Magog) attack Israel.

Calm down friend I've got this.

 

[sydhe]

The Mayan calendar doesn't end. It just flips over a digit, starts a new cycle. Nothing so exciting as the end of the world. That's a misinterpretation.

Admittedly at equivalent times in previous cycles the world was recreated, but that was because humans were screwed up in one way or another (in the form of jaguars, or monkeys) and didn't honor the gods properly. There are still Mayans around who honor the gods in one way or another, and we have a pretty good track record as a species, so I think we're safe.

In other words, all their computer programs will malfunction.

 

[Fr8monkey]