2K Games Reveals Plans for Colonization Remake

[asioasioasio]

I know no one can know this for sure, but can anyone who played the original tell me is it likely

that other natons than the 4 playables will be in the game?

what year the game will play until (does this got to the modern era?)

Is this strictly a Europe/north America game, or does other continents come into it in any way?

Is this basically a very large mod for civ 4, or is it an entirely distinct game (I'm not putting it down in advance or anything, just never played the original)?

Distinct expansion but nothing more than bigger mod wich we can mod. So if you want to put new nations it won't be bigger problem.
It's the same engine and probably it'll work on xml pythons and c++ in sdk.
I'll buy it for sure. I love improved graphics in the game.

 

[Termitnik]

This is a very good news indeed, col is a great game!

 

[CustodianV131]

Really unexpected!

Still very happy with it and a good way to handle it using the Civ4 engine!

Another must buy for me!

Sid when do you have enough of my money?

 

[Roland Johansen]

It's great to see a remake of this game.

I do remember that there was a lot of micromanagement in this game. It was fun to do at first, but once you got a dozen cities or more, it did get a little tedious. I hope they can create controls to better deal with the transport of goods and training of specialists part of the game.

 

[TyrionLannister]

Woohoo! Colonization is back! Awesome!

I played the original and loved it, I look forward to playing this.

 

[uat2d]

it looks great... at least it seems much better than Revolutions!

BTW, there's no Portugal?
We were a powerhouse in the Discoveries and even though when America was being colonized Portugal was much weaker, no one can deny that Portugal was the most important country in all of the Discoveries and the Colonization that followed that period.
We started the Discoveries, while everyone else was too scared because of the myths of monsters and other stuff... with no Portugal we may all have been stuck in Europe for much more time

I'm just sad Firaxis will never recognize Portugal as a Civilization in their games, at least with no expansions...

If the game had Portugal i'd buy it immediately after it was launched; but without it i'll have much more doubts in spending money for it...

 

[RedRalph]

Distinct expansion but nothing more than bigger mod wich we can mod. So if you want to put new nations it won't be bigger problem.
It's the same engine and probably it'll work on xml pythons and c++ in sdk.
I'll buy it for sure. I love improved graphics in the game.

OK thanks, but what I'm wondering is (I know you cant tell for sure, but if you played the previous version you might make a good guess) is this game going to only contain western European nations and american ones, or will Africa, Asia play any part at all? I know they wont be playable but will they likely feature in the game in any capacity?

 

[Thorn]

Have you tried DOSBox? The site says it works with Vista, which I have not tried it before.

Otherwise you can check out Freecol.

Btw, does anyone knows how to get Colonization (the original) playing sound & music in Ubuntu 8.04's DOSBox?

Yeah, but DOSBox won't run the old Windows version of Colonization (slightly better graphics). So it's kind of a Catch 22 no go for me. I may have to find an old hard drive and install an older version of windows on it just to play this again.

 

[asioasioasio]

OK thanks, but what I'm wondering is (I know you cant tell for sure, but if you played the previous version you might make a good guess) is this game going to only contain western European nations and american ones, or will Africa, Asia play any part at all? I know they wont be playable but will they likely feature in the game in any capacity?

From the screenshots (and choose of the countries) it seems that only north america.

But mods will add for sure extra spice

 

[Lillefix]

But mods will add for sure extra spice

Do I hear aliens??

 

[uat2d]

Do I hear aliens??

i hear Portugal and it sure pleases me!

 

[RedRalph]

What year did the first one run until? Modern times?

 

[pathos]

As long as they stay true to Colonization (and from the... three... screen shots, it looks like they have so far), it'll be a great game!

 

[cephalo]

i hear Portugal and it sure pleases me!

Portugal is the reason why this whole 'new world' was found. They monopolized the eastern route to India around Africa, pressuring other nations to test a possible western route.

One could argue that Portugal's Brazilian colonies were very small and relatively unimportant to Portugals other activities, but then you could say the same thing about the Dutch.

There's still time to add them in!

In the original game, here were the countries traits.

England: increased immigration
France: easier cooperation with natives
Dutch: increased trade profits
Spain: combat bonus with natives (politically incorrect? ya)

What should Portugal have?

EDIT: oooh, I just figured out why Portugal is not in the game. They were the dominant source of African slaves early on, and that is still a very uncomfortable and 'un-fun' issue here in the states. Since slavery won't be in the game, Portugal might have to sit out.

Colonization is really an extremely brutal topic. There's alot of sidestepping and white washing required to make a 'game' out of it. When I was a kid, we were taught mostly the heroic aspects of it.

 

[Ace of Gold]

I think portugal should not be in the game. They were not that important. Hardly had any colonies compered to the major powers, France England, Spain. Spain started it all, then France and England literally took over the new world (not all of it of course). But if I can remember, the only colony Portugal had was Brazil.

 

[Bakaroyna]

I have to go change my pants, 'cause I just came a little.

 

[uat2d]

I just figured out why Portugal is not in the game. They were the dominant source of African slaves early on, and that is still a very uncomfortable and 'un-fun' issue here in the states. Since slavery won't be in the game, Portugal might have to sit out.

the Spanish were much more cruel to the slaves they made with the Mesoamerica... for example, while Portugal made treaties and traded with the natives in America, Spain was conquering them and razing their cities and temples only to get slaves to their gold mines. not to mention that Portugal forbidden slavery before the Spanish did. so now who was more cruel to the natives?

I think portugal should not be in the game. They were not that important. Hardly had any colonies compered to the major powers, France England, Spain. Spain started it all, then France and England literally took over the new world (not all of it of course). But if I can remember, the only colony Portugal had was Brazil.

You barely know about Portuguese story, then... why don't you just make an quick read in the wiki and don't sound that ignorant...

Portugal had many colonies but they mostly only became independent less than 40 years ago... in its golden age, Portugal was the richest nation in the world and far more powerful than Spain or any other nation. the reason for the portuguese to start losing power was corruption: we had just too many territory and it was all to spread out...


I think Sid was something against the Portuguese and that's why we're always out...

 

[uat2d]

I have to go change my pants, 'cause I just came a little.

you waited 9 months to post that???


get a life!!!

 

[asioasioasio]

@ garbageinhere poland was always out, even in expansions. so you may feel lucjy enough to be in bts.

 

[cephalo]

the Spanish were much more cruel to the slaves they made with the Mesoamerica... for example, while Portugal made treaties and traded with the natives in America, Spain was conquering them and razing their cities and temples only to get slaves to their gold mines. not to mention that Portugal forbidden slavery before the Spanish did. so now who was more cruel to the natives?

I suppose all the European powers were deeply involved in slavery. That said I can't think of any good reason to leave out Portugal in any game based on Colonialism. They had a huge worldwide empire after all. Their presence in the new world was greater than that of the Dutch, and they made it in.

One game advantage that Portugal could have is a slightly earlier start.