I dug around on the site and found out that in this case, we all shall have same score and same tiebreak score - and we'll all advance - or so it says here:Even if I win both the three of us will all be tied (and all 1-1 vs. each other), in that case I'm not sure what will happen.
I agree. For example, on move I considered Ne6+ instead of RxR but I rejected it because of Ke8 which gets the king back in time to defend the g-pawn. If I'd taken a bit more time I would have realize Ke8 isn't even possible.@Narz: That did look pretty painful. My analysis is that you didn't use enough time to analyze your moves.
@Yeekim: After 38...Nxa3 the line I would have played is 39. Ne7+ Kd7 40. Nd5 c4 41. Nb4 but this is probably still a loss, I do not see any way to play that gives white any good chances for a draw.
Not what i meant. However, I lied a bit - if black plays right, white still comes in second, but black has no way to use his tempo and take queen by checking king.
My idea was: 39. g4! Nc4 40. gxh5 - and black knight is too late to stop that pawn, as e5 square is still controlled by white's f-pawn. Black's a-pawn still gets in first, but black has no decisive advantage from there, so decent chances for a draw.
If, however, black plays 39. hxg4, white counters with 40. h5 g3 41. Nh4! - black's g-pawn is thwarted and white's h-pawn comes in first, following which white can as minimum force draw with eternal check from c8-b8 That was the variant I originally had in mind.
Hey lovett: How do you like our game so far?
I looked at 39. g4 (which does not deserve an exclamation mark) and I didn't see anything special about that move. Let's take a look.
39. g4 Nc4 40. gxh5 black is indeed not stopping the h-pawn but in such a forcing line you cannot stop halfway into the line and declare a result. 40... a3 41. h6 a2 42. h7 a1=Q 43. h8=Q Qd1+ 44. Ke4 Qd5# Apparently white cannot simply rush his pawn to queen as it leads to mate. This line does not work for white. So let's check out the other one you had.
39. g4 hxg4 40. h5 g3 41. Nh4 and here you claim white will queen first. Let's see if that is correct. 41... Nc2+ 42. Ke4 (42. Kd3 Ne1+ 43. Kd2 g2 44. Nxg2 Nxg2 and black's knight will be able to prevent white's pawns from queening while black's king forces his pawns through) a3 43. h6 a2 44. h7 a1=Q I think we have disproved your remark that white's pawn queens first but it does get to queen second. White is alive and while black is much better perhaps there is some chance for a draw. But black is not forced to play this line. Let's consider a better one.
39. g4 Nc2+ 40. Kd3 (40. Ke4 d5+ 41. Kd3) Ne1+ 41. Kd2 hxg4 small but significant differances from the previous line. On principle black is better because he has a passed pawn on each side of the board. White usually cannot stop both threats. Even if white also has two passed pawns they are next to eachoter and are easier to stop. If you take a look at this position I'm sure you'll come to appreciate that black is indeed winning in this exact position as well. If not, post your line here and I'll take a look at it.
Narz said:I have to beat Sashie & Yeekim both (and Riffaraff) in our final matches or I'm not going to advance (no draws allowed)
Narz said:You should join our largest team game yet BTW if you can handle an extra game.
If there's a tie th player who's beaten the higher rated player in the tournament gets to advance. If two (or three) players have the exact same record they both (all) advance.How does the Tie break system work?
Unfortunately I think you're right.
That's why I haven't moved yet. I'm searching for a win, breakthru, something but I just don't see it.