TimBentley
Deity
grs is up, correct? If you look at my turn log and the save closely enough, you should have some idea of my variants.
5 in 1 (mystery SG with twists) - Emperor
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grs
nameless one
Yes, I got it and...well this time I really have some impressions what you are not allowed to do. As I have some knights, 3 armies and over 4k cash, I hope I will get some things done.
microbe
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viper275 said:Very interesting variants... TimBentley, still haven't gotten a reply as to what they are. According to microbe's post I need to know.
But you are not playing before him? I am?
And I just realized that the order is completely changed. grs used to play after me, and now TimeBentley is inbetween. Apparently it's not a good idea to let everyone know about every player's variant.
So I guess we just live with it.
I'm a bit confused. I thought it went like this now:
TimBentley
microbe
grs
viper275
I thought this because of the list on page 6, which was:
Cuivienen
TimBentley
Kiech
Microbe
GRS
Locomotive
Cuivienen and Kiech gone, I replaced Locomotive. That was my understanding.
TimBentley
microbe
grs
viper275
I thought this because of the list on page 6, which was:
Cuivienen
TimBentley
Kiech
Microbe
GRS
Locomotive
Cuivienen and Kiech gone, I replaced Locomotive. That was my understanding.
TimBentley
Deity
Here's the roster grs provided most recently:
grs
viper275
microbe
TimBentley
grs
viper275
microbe
TimBentley
grs
nameless one
I just proposed this new roster, because you played Tim - microbe - Tim. Keeping the roster would have meant microbe would play again and said himself that this is no good idea and I agree. We can change my proposed roster if you like.
I would not send variants aroung in our case.
I would not send variants aroung in our case.
TimBentley
Deity
grs, any progress?
grs
nameless one
Just finished
Pre: I have 4.930 gold to waste...fine...hurry courts and markets. Switch all research builds. Last tech we need is steam all else is waste and we are tech leader soon anyways. We can research everything in 4, if we like. Research set to 80% - military tradition in 2. Capture Stockholm - Vikings out and war weariness ends. Capture Ur (Pyramids) and Zabalam.
660AD: Renew spices deal with Xerxes for incense and 500 gold.
670AD: Military tradition - physics. Start the military academy.
680AD: Ashak taken.
690AD: Kish taken.
700AD: Kuara taken.
710AD: Bad-tibira and Sumer taken.
720AD: Physics - theory of gravity. Lose iron due to vulcano (so what?). Umma and Kua taken.
730AD: Marad taken - Sumeria is out.
740AD: Silks deal with Korea ends. 10% lux is cheaper than renewing it. We attack them soon anyways.
750AD: Move troops to Mayas and rush some settlers, courts and markets.
Game is pretty much over, we should go for domination, that will be fastest. I would attack Mayas first. You may need to raze and replace, because of their culture, but it is not that fatal.
Pre: I have 4.930 gold to waste...fine...hurry courts and markets. Switch all research builds. Last tech we need is steam all else is waste and we are tech leader soon anyways. We can research everything in 4, if we like. Research set to 80% - military tradition in 2. Capture Stockholm - Vikings out and war weariness ends. Capture Ur (Pyramids) and Zabalam.
660AD: Renew spices deal with Xerxes for incense and 500 gold.
670AD: Military tradition - physics. Start the military academy.
680AD: Ashak taken.
690AD: Kish taken.
700AD: Kuara taken.
710AD: Bad-tibira and Sumer taken.
720AD: Physics - theory of gravity. Lose iron due to vulcano (so what?). Umma and Kua taken.
730AD: Marad taken - Sumeria is out.
740AD: Silks deal with Korea ends. 10% lux is cheaper than renewing it. We attack them soon anyways.
750AD: Move troops to Mayas and rush some settlers, courts and markets.
Game is pretty much over, we should go for domination, that will be fastest. I would attack Mayas first. You may need to raze and replace, because of their culture, but it is not that fatal.
grs
nameless one
Yes I already set up to attack them. Have a go if your variant allows 
We only can waste time now. Attack as long as we are the only ones with cavalries.
We only can waste time now. Attack as long as we are the only ones with cavalries.Preturn- Looks good.
IBT- Theory of Gravity==>Magnetism
1
New Cuzco founded. New Tiwanktu founded.
IBT- Nothing
2
Declare on Smoke Jaguar. Capture Der and Isan. Lots of Mayan units near Isan, trying to destroy them all.
IBT- None
3
Capture Uxmal, kill the Mayan units around Isan. Approaching Mayapan and Dzibilchatltun
IBT- A group of Mayan knights recapture Uxmal.
4
Uxmal autorazed, Mayapan captured, and Dzibilchatltun captured. Ancient Cavalry army dies, very bad RNG.
IBT- War Weariness becomes a bit of a problem. Persia begins Newton's University.
5
New Machu Picchu founded. Coba captured.
IBT- Mayans kill the army guarding Coba and capture the city itself. Magnetism ==> Steam Power. Bring science to 70% because Steam Power would take a long time otherwise. New age!
6
New Ollantaytambo founded. Knight army dies when attacking Cuello originally at over half health points.
IBT- It feels like almost every city riots from WW.
7
Cuello captured.
IBT- Order restored almost everywhere.
8
Upgrade a Knight to Cavalry. Just noticed the Maya enter Industrial Age, probably a turn or 2 ago maximum. I have a feeling they'll get Riflemen soon. Better destroy them fast.
IBT- A city riots.
9
New Corihuayrachina founded.
IBT- Zzzz..
10
Capture Tulum, great RNG there. Horrible RNG at Piedras Niegras. 3/4 health bar army dies without killing anything.
Final Thoughts: Everyone except Korea can build cavalry. War weariness is hitting us badly. End the war with the Maya soon? Perhaps keep going to see if they'll get good techs, then pointy stick? Sorry if I managed it poorly. The next person up could buy Medicine from Persia if they choose to do so.
IBT- Theory of Gravity==>Magnetism
1
New Cuzco founded. New Tiwanktu founded.
IBT- Nothing
2
Declare on Smoke Jaguar. Capture Der and Isan. Lots of Mayan units near Isan, trying to destroy them all.
IBT- None
3
Capture Uxmal, kill the Mayan units around Isan. Approaching Mayapan and Dzibilchatltun
IBT- A group of Mayan knights recapture Uxmal.
4
Uxmal autorazed, Mayapan captured, and Dzibilchatltun captured. Ancient Cavalry army dies, very bad RNG.
IBT- War Weariness becomes a bit of a problem. Persia begins Newton's University.
5
New Machu Picchu founded. Coba captured.
IBT- Mayans kill the army guarding Coba and capture the city itself. Magnetism ==> Steam Power. Bring science to 70% because Steam Power would take a long time otherwise. New age!
6
New Ollantaytambo founded. Knight army dies when attacking Cuello originally at over half health points.
IBT- It feels like almost every city riots from WW.
7
Cuello captured.
IBT- Order restored almost everywhere.
8
Upgrade a Knight to Cavalry. Just noticed the Maya enter Industrial Age, probably a turn or 2 ago maximum. I have a feeling they'll get Riflemen soon. Better destroy them fast.
IBT- A city riots.
9
New Corihuayrachina founded.
IBT- Zzzz..
10
Capture Tulum, great RNG there. Horrible RNG at Piedras Niegras. 3/4 health bar army dies without killing anything.
Final Thoughts: Everyone except Korea can build cavalry. War weariness is hitting us badly. End the war with the Maya soon? Perhaps keep going to see if they'll get good techs, then pointy stick? Sorry if I managed it poorly. The next person up could buy Medicine from Persia if they choose to do so.
TimBentley
Deity
Ouch on the RNG and losing the armies. How are the defenses in Maya? At least Persia only got medicine.
grs
nameless one
Well as I see it, there is nothing left to attack with. It would have been nice to get through to their dyes, but we got their salpeter at least.
grs
viper275 - just played
microbe - up
TimBentley
Edit: Just one tip, get used to adjust the lux slider. It's better than having so many cities riot.
grs
viper275 - just played
microbe - up
TimBentley
Edit: Just one tip, get used to adjust the lux slider. It's better than having so many cities riot.
Maya usually have 1 musketman and 1 spearman/pikeman per city.
I was going to adjust the luxury slider but I thought of it just after MMing a bunch of cities.
Sounds like we should end the war? I don't see it going anywhere from here.
I was going to adjust the luxury slider but I thought of it just after MMing a bunch of cities.
Sounds like we should end the war? I don't see it going anywhere from here.
microbe
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preturn: I ship wines to Persia for 5gpt+8g+MA vs Maya.
MM all cities. Why are we building reg warriors and muskets in our corrupt city? WW is killing us but we have to live with it.
We have too few workers.
IBT Persia asks for too much for Spices, and I have to pay incense+WM+795g for it. Palace expansion.
(1)860AD: Kill a longbow and pike.
I sell Magnetism+WM+wines+22g to Korea for silks+MA vs Maya.
(2)870AD: Korea goes Industrial and both Persia/Korea have Medicine+Steam Power.
I buy it with 12g. We have two coals connected. I sell Coal to Korea for 173g.
Bad-tibira is actually an ironworks city but too corrupt.
Industrialization in 7 turns.
Saltpeter to Spain for 22gpt.
IBT Maya builds Shakespear.
(3)880AD: We lose 2 cavs, kill elite musket and vet pike, and capture Piedras. It is size-9 without any improvements! Should have razed it.
IBT Persia starts JS bach - wait, this wonder hasn't been built?
(4)890AD: IBT Spain and Maya MA vs Korea and Persia.
We lose a cav to Maya's cav but kill a cav plus a longbow.
(5)900AD: Kill 2 reg muskets flawlessly and capture Valencia. It has another coal.
(6)910AD: Capture aother 2 towns and get a leader. I can't believe we don't have an army yet so it forms one immediately.
(7)920AD: movement. IBT Industrialization -> Electricity. Military Acadamy complete.
(8)930AD: capture Bonampak.
(9)940AD: We capture Lagartero which has dyes, so we drop lux to zero and fire many clowns.
IBT Valencia and Mayap despose to Maya. No troops lose. And Manp'o of Korea flips to us.
(10)950AD: Capture Copan. We cannot reach the two flipped city but Maya only got spear in it.
Note:
Let's quickly get rid of Maya. Do not stack too many units in captured towns except the first turn. For example, Army should move out of Copan next turn as it's too likely to flip.
After Maya we need to dogpile Persia.
Tech wise go Electricity -> Replaceable Parts. That's pretty much the only tech we need. After that shut off research and use gold to rush units.
Build more settlers to fill in the gap.
MM all cities. Why are we building reg warriors and muskets in our corrupt city? WW is killing us but we have to live with it.
We have too few workers.
IBT Persia asks for too much for Spices, and I have to pay incense+WM+795g for it. Palace expansion.
(1)860AD: Kill a longbow and pike.
I sell Magnetism+WM+wines+22g to Korea for silks+MA vs Maya.
(2)870AD: Korea goes Industrial and both Persia/Korea have Medicine+Steam Power.
I buy it with 12g. We have two coals connected. I sell Coal to Korea for 173g.Bad-tibira is actually an ironworks city but too corrupt.
Industrialization in 7 turns.
Saltpeter to Spain for 22gpt.
IBT Maya builds Shakespear.
(3)880AD: We lose 2 cavs, kill elite musket and vet pike, and capture Piedras. It is size-9 without any improvements! Should have razed it.
IBT Persia starts JS bach - wait, this wonder hasn't been built?
(4)890AD: IBT Spain and Maya MA vs Korea and Persia.
We lose a cav to Maya's cav but kill a cav plus a longbow.(5)900AD: Kill 2 reg muskets flawlessly and capture Valencia. It has another coal.
(6)910AD: Capture aother 2 towns and get a leader. I can't believe we don't have an army yet so it forms one immediately.
(7)920AD: movement. IBT Industrialization -> Electricity. Military Acadamy complete.
(8)930AD: capture Bonampak.
(9)940AD: We capture Lagartero which has dyes, so we drop lux to zero and fire many clowns.
IBT Valencia and Mayap despose to Maya. No troops lose. And Manp'o of Korea flips to us.
(10)950AD: Capture Copan. We cannot reach the two flipped city but Maya only got spear in it.
Note:
Let's quickly get rid of Maya. Do not stack too many units in captured towns except the first turn. For example, Army should move out of Copan next turn as it's too likely to flip.
After Maya we need to dogpile Persia.
Tech wise go Electricity -> Replaceable Parts. That's pretty much the only tech we need. After that shut off research and use gold to rush units.
Build more settlers to fill in the gap.
TimBentley
Deity
Yet? I think you mean anymore.microbe said:
dumb RNG.Well, I'll try my best (we would have to wait for grs to finish them off anyways). And don't worry, I'll be sure to save some money for rushing. I've got it, and will probably play tomorrow.microbe said:
grs
nameless one
Sadly Xerxes already took their gem-city. I predict that he will wipe out most of them till I get it back.
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