Jokeslayer
Dedicated
We have no pressing need for mysticism right now. I'd hold off on the trade. And definitely settle 1N for the iron and gold.
5CC Regent Training Game
- Thread starter Hawk Chieftain
- Start date
Tasslehoff
Kender
Ok, complete.
Turn 0 (IBT): Settler heads towards Gold Hill.
Turn 1: Science->80% without slowing research. Workers Mining BGs.
Turn 2: Lux-10%, stopping revolt. Warrior sees hut.
Turn 3: Barracks-> Archer. Worker heads to forest, other worker to grassland. Science to 60%, again to save cash without slowing tech. Warrior passes hut because I'm stupid.
Turn 4: Babylonian Settler on Mountain, IW-> Math. Warrior pops CB. Settler 1N to grab Iron. Worker on forest begins road to new city site. Science->10% to gain gold and stay above 0. Math in 40.
Turn 5: Archer->Worker to remove a citizen. Edrine Built. Archer to Edrine.
Spearman in 10. Tax collector created in Istanbul to stop revolt.
7) Palace expanded. Worker->Archer. I MM Istanbul to slow growth. Worker heads to help road.
8) Edrine MMed to work Mountain, Spear in 4 without growth. Another Goody Hut spotted, two spaces away.
9)Archer->Archer. Second Archer to Edrine.
10) Bab escorted Settler spotted. 1sty Archer S to Bab borders. Another worker to help bu ild road. Warrior pops The Wheel. Edrine has horsies too!
Turn 0 (IBT): Settler heads towards Gold Hill.
Turn 1: Science->80% without slowing research. Workers Mining BGs.
Turn 2: Lux-10%, stopping revolt. Warrior sees hut.
Turn 3: Barracks-> Archer. Worker heads to forest, other worker to grassland. Science to 60%, again to save cash without slowing tech. Warrior passes hut because I'm stupid.
Turn 4: Babylonian Settler on Mountain, IW-> Math. Warrior pops CB. Settler 1N to grab Iron. Worker on forest begins road to new city site. Science->10% to gain gold and stay above 0. Math in 40.
Turn 5: Archer->Worker to remove a citizen. Edrine Built. Archer to Edrine.
Spearman in 10. Tax collector created in Istanbul to stop revolt.
7) Palace expanded. Worker->Archer. I MM Istanbul to slow growth. Worker heads to help road.
8) Edrine MMed to work Mountain, Spear in 4 without growth. Another Goody Hut spotted, two spaces away.
9)Archer->Archer. Second Archer to Edrine.
10) Bab escorted Settler spotted. 1sty Archer S to Bab borders. Another worker to help bu ild road. Warrior pops The Wheel. Edrine has horsies too!
Spoiler Final Screenie :
Iron AND Horses? Can it get any better? Wait, yes it can. If Coal is on that hill or that mountain just outside Edrine's current boders, we've got a IW city!
But, we'll have to wait until the IA...
Anyway, who's next? We have this roster so far:
Choxorn
Tasslehoff: Just Played
???: UP
???: On Deck
???
Not Placed: Hawk, Tad, Jokeslayer
But, we'll have to wait until the IA...
Anyway, who's next? We have this roster so far:
Choxorn
Tasslehoff: Just Played
???: UP
???: On Deck
???
Not Placed: Hawk, Tad, Jokeslayer
gmaharriet
Ancient Crone
lurker's comment: You DO realize it's not possible to pop from a hut the tech you are already researching, don't you?
Jokeslayer
Dedicated
It looks in that screenshot like Edrine is size one and not growing. What's that about? I'm also not sure I like the spearman build. It's hardly like the babylonians are crazy-aggressive.
lurker's comment: I've never played a 5CC, so, with that said, take these comments for what they're worth. If you're only going to have 5 cities, I think you'll need them to be as large as possible. That makes Edrine's lack of growth a real problem. Have you considered where to put your other 3 cities? Not that corruption is going to be a huge problem with 5 cities, but it seems to me that you'd want them arrayed around your capitol, so a palace jump to Edrine down the road might be worth considering. And is that a Babylonian settler pair standing there all alone and helpless next to your archer? 
Tasslehoff put Edrine to work the Mountain to finish the Spear Quicker. I can see his reasoning, but by now, it should probably be sent back to the field.
@Aabra: I was thinking the same thing about the archer, but he's going to mvoe in the IBT, probably to a square the archer can't get.
@Aabra: I was thinking the same thing about the archer, but he's going to mvoe in the IBT, probably to a square the archer can't get.
Hawk Chieftain
Prince
I got the next turnset. I should be able to play tomorrow.
Do you think I should build a settler in Istanbul next? If we do, should I sent it to the lakes near the grapes?
After the Spear is created in Edrine, should I move the citizen to the field to get growth? Should I build a granary there next? Or Barracks?
Do you think I should build a settler in Istanbul next? If we do, should I sent it to the lakes near the grapes?
After the Spear is created in Edrine, should I move the citizen to the field to get growth? Should I build a granary there next? Or Barracks?
Move the citizen to the grass that has the horse for growth, and build a rax afterwards.
As for the capital, Settler after archer, and time it to make it grow to size 5 and build a settler at the same time.
Send the built settler to the tile that is 1 tile East of the Wines.
As for the capital, Settler after archer, and time it to make it grow to size 5 and build a settler at the same time.
Send the built settler to the tile that is 1 tile East of the Wines.
Tasslehoff
Kender
I moved the archer with the intent of being able to reach the settler if we wanted to, but I was a turn late. Still, if the archer follows the pair, we could get a quickly razed city. With that in mind, I started working the mountain to produce a faster spear, so if we declare war earlier, we don't have to worry about the spear not being built in time to save Edrine.
@Hawk: Choxorn's post pretty much says what I would suggest, too. Other than using the archer, we also have the option of attacking with the warrior on the hill, if possible. Note that the warrior has move orders to keep moving south for exploration.
@gmaharriet: Oops. I knew that, but I forgot. Ah well. It (probably) isn't a game-killing mistake.
@Hawk: Choxorn's post pretty much says what I would suggest, too. Other than using the archer, we also have the option of attacking with the warrior on the hill, if possible. Note that the warrior has move orders to keep moving south for exploration.
@gmaharriet: Oops. I knew that, but I forgot. Ah well. It (probably) isn't a game-killing mistake.
Tad Empire_0_o
GAHH... Puberty
ill go last I guess =)
Hawk Chieftain
Prince
Tassle- where's the save?
Tasslehoff
Kender
Sorry, could've sworn I posted it. Here it is:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/117283/Hawk01_Tasslehoff_2550_BC.SAV
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/117283/Hawk01_Tasslehoff_2550_BC.SAV
Hawk Chieftain
Prince
Turn 0 (2550 BC)- Babylon settler pair move E
Istanbul- Archer-Settler (2 turns)
Turn 1 (2510 BC)- move workers toward Edrine
Tate the Warrior moves SE towards Babylon
Archers keep in contact w/Babylon settler pair
North Warrior contacts Arabian scout, they offer Mysticism for Alpha, decline
IBT- tried to MM Istanbul so it will grow at same time as when Settler is done, but couldn't find a combination
- Babylon settler pair moved toward the sea
- Edrine- Spear<Barracks (20 turns)
- move Edrine citizen to field, growth in 6 turns
Turn 2 (2470 BC)- Move archers to be in contact w/settler pair
- Workers irrigate field where Edrine citizen works
IBT- Babylon founds city
Istanbul riots, move Luxury up to 70%
Turn 3 (2430 BC)- Fortify archers in Babylonian territory
- Move Tate the Warrior into Babylonia
- Workers move NE
IBT- Babylon tells me to get out. I declare war on them.
Istanbul- Settler<Spear (2 turns)
Turn 4 (2390 BC)- Workers finish irrigating
- Tate the Warrior moves W toward Ninevah
- Archers move across river at Ninevah to negate defensive advantage
- Lower Luxury to 10%, Science at 30%, Math in 29 turns
- move citizen at Edrine to work irrigated field, growth in 5 turns
IBT-Istanbul- Spear<Archer (2 turns)
Turn 5 (2310 BC)- Move Spear to cover settler
- Consolidated archers w/Tate the Warrior
- Workers road iron on mountain
IBT- zzzzzzzzzzz
Turn 6 (2270 BC)- Stack attacks Ninevah, kills spear & 2 warriors (3-0)
- Found Bursa, start Barracks (20 turns), put citizen on grapes, growth in 5 turns
- Increase luxury to 70% to prevent rioting, science at 30%, Math in 19 turns
IBT- Istanbul- Archer<Worker (1 turn), to start getting Bursa & grapes hooked up
Turn 7 (2230 BC)- Stack moves SW, sees Bowman
IBT- Bowman attacks stack, kills archer (3-1)
Istanbul-Worker<Sword (2 turns)
Turn 8 (2200 BC)- move worker toward Bursa
- move worker stack toward Bursa, I couldnt put them on Horses b/c of Babylonian Warrior
- move archer into Edrine
- stack kills Bowman (4-1)
IBT- Babylonian warrior retreats
- Barb approaches Istanbul from N
Turn 9 (2150 BC)- Worker stack roads toward Bursa, then goes back to Horses
- move archer to protect them
- stack retreats N instead of attacking Bowman on mountain
- MM Edrine so citizen works mountain, Barracks in 1 turn
IBT- Babylonian Warrior kills Tate the Warrior (4-2)
- Bowman comes off on mountain
- Istanbul- Sword<Sword (2 turns), grows to size 6
- Edrine- Barracks<Sword (4 turns)
- MM Edrine so citizen is working grass, growth in 5 turns, sword in 5 turns
Turn 10 (2110 BC)- send 1 worker to road Horses, send 1 worker to road towards Bursa
- Sword kills Barb N of Istanbul
- Archer stack kills Babylonian Warrior, promotes to Elite (5-2)
And, here's the save:
Istanbul- Archer-Settler (2 turns)
Turn 1 (2510 BC)- move workers toward Edrine
Tate the Warrior moves SE towards Babylon
Archers keep in contact w/Babylon settler pair
North Warrior contacts Arabian scout, they offer Mysticism for Alpha, decline
IBT- tried to MM Istanbul so it will grow at same time as when Settler is done, but couldn't find a combination
- Babylon settler pair moved toward the sea
- Edrine- Spear<Barracks (20 turns)
- move Edrine citizen to field, growth in 6 turns
Turn 2 (2470 BC)- Move archers to be in contact w/settler pair
- Workers irrigate field where Edrine citizen works
IBT- Babylon founds city
Istanbul riots, move Luxury up to 70%
Turn 3 (2430 BC)- Fortify archers in Babylonian territory
- Move Tate the Warrior into Babylonia
- Workers move NE
IBT- Babylon tells me to get out. I declare war on them.
Istanbul- Settler<Spear (2 turns)
Turn 4 (2390 BC)- Workers finish irrigating
- Tate the Warrior moves W toward Ninevah
- Archers move across river at Ninevah to negate defensive advantage
- Lower Luxury to 10%, Science at 30%, Math in 29 turns
- move citizen at Edrine to work irrigated field, growth in 5 turns
IBT-Istanbul- Spear<Archer (2 turns)
Turn 5 (2310 BC)- Move Spear to cover settler
- Consolidated archers w/Tate the Warrior
- Workers road iron on mountain
IBT- zzzzzzzzzzz
Turn 6 (2270 BC)- Stack attacks Ninevah, kills spear & 2 warriors (3-0)
- Found Bursa, start Barracks (20 turns), put citizen on grapes, growth in 5 turns
- Increase luxury to 70% to prevent rioting, science at 30%, Math in 19 turns
IBT- Istanbul- Archer<Worker (1 turn), to start getting Bursa & grapes hooked up
Turn 7 (2230 BC)- Stack moves SW, sees Bowman
IBT- Bowman attacks stack, kills archer (3-1)
Istanbul-Worker<Sword (2 turns)
Turn 8 (2200 BC)- move worker toward Bursa
- move worker stack toward Bursa, I couldnt put them on Horses b/c of Babylonian Warrior
- move archer into Edrine
- stack kills Bowman (4-1)
IBT- Babylonian warrior retreats
- Barb approaches Istanbul from N
Turn 9 (2150 BC)- Worker stack roads toward Bursa, then goes back to Horses
- move archer to protect them
- stack retreats N instead of attacking Bowman on mountain
- MM Edrine so citizen works mountain, Barracks in 1 turn
IBT- Babylonian Warrior kills Tate the Warrior (4-2)
- Bowman comes off on mountain
- Istanbul- Sword<Sword (2 turns), grows to size 6
- Edrine- Barracks<Sword (4 turns)
- MM Edrine so citizen is working grass, growth in 5 turns, sword in 5 turns
Turn 10 (2110 BC)- send 1 worker to road Horses, send 1 worker to road towards Bursa
- Sword kills Barb N of Istanbul
- Archer stack kills Babylonian Warrior, promotes to Elite (5-2)
And, here's the save:
Tasslehoff
Kender
choxorn's right, especially now that we have multiple cities. Why waste cash from other cities when you could just use a little from Istanbul. I think Jokeslayer's next, but he needs to evaluate Hawk's set first.
Jokeslayer
Dedicated
I don't really like declaring with troops in babylonian territory. The rep/attitude hit is something we can do without. That lux tax in turn 6 is way way too high. Using a specialist and/or building a worker is almost certainly better.
I don't agree with that swordsman heading north after the barbarians. If we're fighting the babs this early (also not something I like, but I'll work with it) I think we need to hit them with as much as we can. Much better to take them down in one go than to have to make peace with them.
If I'm up next, I'll have to play tomorrow.
I don't agree with that swordsman heading north after the barbarians. If we're fighting the babs this early (also not something I like, but I'll work with it) I think we need to hit them with as much as we can. Much better to take them down in one go than to have to make peace with them.
If I'm up next, I'll have to play tomorrow.
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