Grohan
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There are two different school subjects: Religion and biology. And I see no reason why religion should be taught in biology classes. It's like teaching chemistry in P.E classes 
64% in US think creationism should be taught in school.
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Thorgalaeg
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I dont even know why they should teach personal beliefs in school, much less in science class. School should be to learn objetive things. In any case they could teach a bit of history of religions in history class, or maybe dedicate some lesson to the bible and such in literature class. If you wanna know about your religion go to church.
Insane_Panda
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Canada is looking mighty fine right about now.
MobBoss
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Speciou5 said:
Never seen a person cured of terminal illness and science cant explain it? It happens.
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MobBoss said:
Science may not be able to explain it at the time but logically it can be expected that science will be able to explain in eventually.
No one knew how to cure the plauge back in the Middle Ages and when certain people did'nt get it it was attributed to "god"
It was actually found later that there was a certain gene the increased immunity to plauge and that it was passed on through generations.
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RoboPig said:
It was closest to my position.
I think creationism should be what is primarily taught with evolution taught as part of the current events aspect of science as well as history aspect of science or as an example of junk science
So i think BOTH should be taught but NOT cuz I believe in evolution (I don't) and also NOT cuz I am not sure which is right (I am sure).
Leonel
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Insane_Panda said:
HAHAHA that reminds me of my friend that said that she would flee to Canada if Bush got re-elected. And when I saw her on AIM and asked "So how's Canada?" and I laughed and laughed and laughed. I never laughed so hard before. She's still in the US.
BUT SERIOUSLY yeah I don't think Creationism should be taught in science class either. I can't put my finger on it but it just doesn't seem right. The only reason I think creation should be taught in a classroom setting is for a Religious Education class, of which I had when I went to school in Hong Kong. We'd do all these religious practices and I remember I forgot to bring my fish for when we did a reenactment of Passover. And in RE, as we called it, we not only learned of just Christianity, but ALL religions. Taoism, Buddhism, Islam etc etc. And we even do several creation lessons for all the religions we review. I especially loved hearing about all the different creation stories from all the religions and how they were different and the same.
MobBoss
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Teach the merits of both and let the kiddies make up their own minds about it.
GrandAdmiral
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Is this pole even valid because the one I made up says the opposite?
But religion doesn't explain that either.MobBoss said:
No one is claiming that science currently explains everything. However, I think Speciou5's point was that science is about finding out how the Universe works (eg, trying to cure cancer), and creationism does not do that.
Bluemofia
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cierdan said:I think creationism should be what is primarily taught with evolution taught as part of the current events aspect of science as well as history aspect of science or as an example of junk science
It is (very briefly though). We spent 5 whole minutes on the topic last year in biology.
Bluemofia
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MobBoss said:
Lets teach alchemy and chemistry in the same class! Turn lead into gold (alchemy)! No, it's impossible (chemistry)!
Lets teach magic and physics in the same class! Unexplained things happen because of magic! No, they happen because they follow certain defined laws!
Lets teach astrology and astronomy in the same class! Mars alligned to Gemini will cause war in some very complexy way of complexness for some reason (which is complex)(astrology)! No, Mars is only between us and Gemini due to orbits and them happening to allign, and will have no impact on human events (astronomy).
Get my point?
MobBoss
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Sure it does or we would not be having this discussion. Let me tell you of a personal experience I recently had.
I was driving home on a Friday night about midnight and came up on an accident just past a river bridge in a country area. I was maybe the 3rd car on the scene of a 3 car accident. It spanned both lanes of the two lane highway. I pulled to the side just past the accident and got out to render aid. The first thing that I saw was one of the folks in the accident was trying, unsuccessfully to light a road flare to divert traffic..he was so shaken he couldnt get it to work, so I grabbed the flares and did that. While I did this I noticed a woman down on the side of the road with a couple of people giving her help. Seeing that she was being helped I then checked the other cars for people...everyone else involved in the accident seemed to be ok..only the woman was the one significantly injured. So I went back to check on her...by this time she had maybe 10 people around her with her feet propped up and covered in coats. All of a sudden the poor woman starts to have seizures and I think omg here we go she is going to die. I looked at the people around her...everyone looked scared, but were doing all they knew to do. The only thing I could think of to do that no one was doing was pray. So I started praying for this woman I didnt know while people were trying to keep her covered as it was raining. After a min or so of this the womans eyes shot wide open and I swear to God it looked like she looked me right in the eye...not anyone else..just me. Then slowly her breathing settled down and she stopped having the seizure. I had been praying the whole while. Thinking she was going to be ok, I stopped praying and started to walk away to check on someone else....and here is where the really odd thing happened...the second I started to walk away she started having another seizure. I immediately turned around and started praying for her again and amazingly her seizures once again stopped. At that point I felt God was telling me to just continue to pray for her which I did until the ambulance arrived. By the time she was being loaded onto the ambulance she more alert and trying to speak. It turned out that a van had stalled in the middle of the highway just past the bridge..a second car had slowed behind the van and was commencing to pass it on the right when a car driven by the woman hit the passing car. A pretty nasty accident. All in all it was a totally amazing experience.
Now I tell you that story fully realizing that what I experienced is possibly explainable by science or even coincedence. But, my spirit and my heart speaks to me differently and tells me I was there for a specific reason that night. To me, it validated my faith and speaks to a purpose in life that maybe I hadnt felt before. It was amazing.
I have no idea if creationism as they want to teach it is valid or not...and I am smart enough to not discount evolution outright either. I guess my point is if you are able to feel what I felt that night...well...it makes the whole thing seem moot in a way. I mean, if God is big enough to touch me and the people around me at that accident that way, then he is big enough to incorporate both evolution AND creationism in his plan. Faith isnt about worrying about that stuff...its about the relationship...totally the relationship.
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