A Brave New World Part 2

[bombshoo]

In the Republic of China, the major difference has been the political domination of several families from the North. This is due to the Russian influence exerted on the area and the fact many of them were educated there or served in the Russian Armed Forces.

The OTL leaders were still fairly important but the major differences are Sun Yat-sen spent most of the time overseas collecting funds and acting as an ambassador for the wars. This also isolated Chaing Kai-Shek some and caused him to never rise above a mid-level General until recently. Chaing is now an adamant supporter of President Xue Yue and currently serves as his chief-of-staff.

I will assume Mao never rose to prominence since this China's communist movement seems to be based more around Chen Duxiu's ideals which were based on the urban class and not the rural peasants. This is also probably one of the reasons they never gained as much support as they could have.

I imagine China as a whole being significantly more Christian, though they are still a minority (Maybe 10-15% of the total population). This is due to greater Western penetration as well as the lack of a strong Qing dynasty to suppress it.

 

[Tyrion]

Secretly Churchill is Captain England... yes thats right the first hero with a pot belly! I shall attempt to think of a real one...

 

[Circuit]

To: Uruguay socialists
From: SUSA

Again, do you have terms for which you'd lay down your arms and rejoin the Socialist Union? We are willing to used armed force, and if we do not receive a response soon, we will assume that there are no terms...which would be to your own disadvantage. Not only would you be annihilated, the issues that irk you to the point of rebellion would not be resolved.

 

[EQandcivfanatic]

To: SUSA
From: Uruguayan Collective

We are not rebelling. We are simply choosing to end our membership in the Union. We were promised rights to autonomy when the Union was formed, and we no longer recognize the foreign policy interests of SUSA to be in line with our ideal nation.

 

[Circuit]

To: SUSA
From: Uruguayan Collective

We are not rebelling. We are simply choosing to end our membership in the Union. We were promised rights to autonomy when the Union was formed, and we no longer recognize the foreign policy interests of SUSA to be in line with our ideal nation.

OOC: This is long for a diplomatic message, but it is also a message to our own people as well.

IC:

To: Uruguayan socialists
From: SUSA
CC: The people of the Socialist Union (i.e. this is published in our papers; byline is Luis Carlos Prestes, a high-ranking Socialist Party member)

First: realize that our Leader, Jose Batlle y Ordonez, was one of your own before the Socialist Union was created, so you cannot say that your interests have not been represented.

Second: if you refer to the war in North America, we were not the ones who started the war; it was the Capitalists. But regardless of who started it, we have not sent any more troops to North America and our fleets have not been engaging those of the enemy. The only reason the expeditionary force remains in North America is that we have no safe means of bringing them home. We remain mobilized only because we have seen a demobilization as risky, and would like to remain prepared should the Capitalists decide to extend the war into South America...and potentially harm you. When the war ends (which we hope will be soon), we will demobilize.

Third: we recognize a higher cause than mere constitutional commitments. The protection of socialism on an international scale is indeed in line with the tenets of socialism. What is socialism? In essence, ensuring that the workers are guaranteed the means of survival, and thus allowing them a practical freedom that is not guaranteed by the constitutional freedom provided by the capitalist nations (for who is truly free when he is a slave to survival?). Should we not ensure that the workers on the international level also be guaranteed access to this freedom? If we were to say no, we would be no better than capitalists ourselves, hoarding our freedom as they hoard their wealth. That is how our foreign policy has been functioning for the majority of the time in the international theater. We tried to ensure that the Communist government of Jamaica had the means to ensure the people of Jamaica the prerequisite condition of survival for a greater freedom. Again, we did not start that war.

In regards to Bolivia and Paraguay: would it have been just to sit on our hands and do nothing while Salazar abused the Bolivian people? We entrusted Bolivia to Paraguay on the condition that the Paraguayan government did not abuse the Bolivian people, and guarantee the Bolivians the rights any citizen of a socialist nation has. Not only did Paraguay cease to be a socialist nation, Paraguay, under Salazar, began to outright abuse the Bolivians and violate the rights to survival (and therefore freedom) the Bolivians had. To allow this to happen under our watch, after we entrusted Bolivia to Paraguay, would be unjust, immoral, and a violation of the socialist cause. We had a moral imperative to intervene in the Bolivian affair. And now, Bolivia is capable of starting anew, of guaranteeing its people the means of survival that were not present in Paraguay. Do you honestly think that it would be right to sit back and do nothing before?

You do not have a leg to stand on.

Fourth: the socialist cause also gives us the right to forcibly annex you. What good does it do for the socialists to be disunited? We would end up like the nations of North America; disunited and war torn. The failure of the United States did them no good, and the failure of the Socialist Union will do us and the socialist cause no good. If you leave, what's to stop others from leaving? Where would we be then? At the hands of the Capitalists. It is not only a disfavor to the workers of your nation for us to allow you to leave; it is a disfavor to our own. There may be bloodshed early on, but for us to do nothing would be to invite greater catastrophe in the future.

We realize that at the beginning you were guaranteed autonomy. But times have changed; union is more critical now than it ever was. You would be guaranteed the autonomy to make decisions specific to your collective if you were to remain, as any collective in the Union ought have. But that does not mean that you can leave when the situation does not fit you and the going gets tough. If that were the case, what would be the point of the Socialist Union in the first place? Even if the Socialist Union were purely defensive, if the defensive war were going badly and every collective decided to leave, then they might as well have never been united. The creation of the Socialist Union itself means that you cannot claim autonomy.

We hope you change your mind. If not, at least don't deceive yourselves into thinking you hold the moral high ground.

 

[Crezth]

To: Denmark
From: France

We invite the Danes to consider that it was they who invaded sovereign French territory. Had we been cowardly enough to sit on our haunches and watch you advance, doing nothing but ask you to leave, then the Cape would have been lost. This is unacceptable and for your unlawful transgressions we demand 5 EP be paid in reparations for the families of those brutally murdered by your lawless ruffians and for overtime pay for the bureaucrats forced to sit and translate your barbarian language.


To: Germany
From: France

France has taken extensive acts to prevent a repeat of this incident, but notes soberly that many of those who were attacked by so-called "unruly mobs" were in fact socialists and anarchists bent on destabilizing France once more. Through one way or another, it maintained the peace in France. We reiterate that we have no desire for war.

To: England
From: France

Your attitude is uncalled for. We are against war. We care only to defend our own lands.

 

[Milarqui]

To: Denmark
From: France

We invite the Danes to consider that it was they who invaded sovereign French territory. Had we been cowardly enough to sit on our haunches and watch you advance, doing nothing but ask you to leave, then the Cape would have been lost. This is unacceptable and for your unlawful transgressions we demand 5 EP be paid in reparations for the families of those brutally murdered by your lawless ruffians and for overtime pay for the bureaucrats forced to sit and translate your barbarian language.

From: Denmark
To: France

Unlawful transgressions? We fear that all the actions taken by our soldiers in the effort to defeat the rebellion of the former inhabitants of Zululand were perfectly legal. It was your soldiers that provoked the issue by attacking our soldiers without any reason, other than claiming that they were in the French side of the border. And even if they were, your soldiers' actions were an overreaction to any possible action our soldiers may have taken. And while we are sorry that part of your soldiers died in the action, you don't seem to realise that we lost many more soldiers and that our soldiers also had to pay for bureaucrats to translate from your language to Danish. Your arrogant claims for money when our losses from your unlawful attack on our troops were four times your losses only make you out as the bully in this situation. We would have more rights to demand money out of you, but as we are far more civilized than you, we will settle for a payment of 1 EP.

 

[EQandcivfanatic]

To: SUSA
From: Uruguayan Collective

1. Ordenz no longer speaks for the good of his people.

2. The war for us should be over. We have no stake in a conflict of aggression by our misguided comrades in the north.

3. If you deny us our freedom as a people, we will not be the only ones who protest.

4. We have no problems fighting in a defensive war against capitalism, but global revolution will come at its own pace throughout the globe. It is not up to us to expand it. We have already stated our desire to remain within the ISCG, but solely in a defensive capacity.

 

[Crezth]

To: Denmark
From: France

Out of no love for you nor any particular agreement, we will make one final counter-proposal: 4 EP, and we together shift our focus to a much greater problem. The North American Communists. We want to organize a massive initiative to defeat the United Collectives in the next few years and believe that the best way to do it is to commit European forces against them on land and sea. There is no doubt that tensions have been high but we want to preserve the peace. Let us ensure the world is safe from the horrors of Red Communism. We wish you to discuss it with your allies and return with a response, so that we may begin coordinating against them.

 

[Milarqui]

To: Denmark
From: France

Out of no love for you nor any particular agreement, we will make one final counter-proposal: 4 EP, and we together shift our focus to a much greater problem. The North American Communists. We want to organize a massive initiative to defeat the United Collectives in the next few years and believe that the best way to do it is to commit European forces against them on land and sea. There is no doubt that tensions have been high but we want to preserve the peace. Let us ensure the world is safe from the horrors of Red Communism. We wish you to discuss it with your allies and return with a response, so that we may begin coordinating against them.

From: Denmark
To: France

What about this counter-proposal: 0 EP. It's a far better offer than what you should pay us. As for collaboration against the Communists, we are willing to talk with our allies over the matter of whether we should collaborate or not.

 

[Crezth]

From: Denmark
To: France

What about this counter-proposal: 0 EP. It's a far better offer than what you should pay us. As for collaboration against the Communists, we are willing to talk with our allies over the matter of whether we should collaborate or not.

To: Denmark
From: France

We are willing to pay Denmark 2 EP if it meant they would consider acting in this initiative. We are reluctant to act alone on this issue.

 

[Circuit]

To: SUSA
From: Uruguayan Collective

1. Ordenz no longer speaks for the good of his people.

2. The war for us should be over. We have no stake in a conflict of aggression by our misguided comrades in the north.

3. If you deny us our freedom as a people, we will not be the only ones who protest.

4. We have no problems fighting in a defensive war against capitalism, but global revolution will come at its own pace throughout the globe. It is not up to us to expand it. We have already stated our desire to remain within the ISCG, but solely in a defensive capacity.

To: Uruguayan socialists
From: SUSA

Ordenz is deeply hurt by your dis-ownership. Very kind of you in his ailing state.

No, we don't have a stake in the conflict in the north. We agree with you. More than anything we would like to demobilize and again focus on domestic matters. The expeditionary force will remain, however, because there is no means of safely returning them home. We just won't grow it with more troops, and once it appears that there is a safe means of returning it, we will take advantage of the opportunity.

If we were to demobilize and focus again on domestic matters, would you reconsider your secession? Your collective would be guaranteed certain local rights as any collective in the Union should have, plus benefit from our national projects.

If you are referring to a protest in the ISCG or in the Socialist Union, realize that we keep this in mind: the premise set by allowing you to leave the Union would be just as crippling, if not more. We'll take our chances. We hold the moral high ground. Trying to claim that we are repressing your people is not a Socialist claim; under Socialism, there are no nations, there are no peoples. There are only the workers.

Will global revolution proceed at its own pace? The people of Jamaica attempted and succeeded in establishing a government of the People on the island, and they never attempted aggression against any power. But the New England capitalists intervened and crushed them. The Capitalists will do whatever it takes to suppress the people. So many socialist causes have failed because of Capitalist intervention. The Socialist cause can fail if we allow it. And if you secede from the Union, you too would be responsible for its downfall. We would be responsible if we were to sit back and let you leave. But we will not take the death of Socialism through inactivity into our hands.

 

[EQandcivfanatic]

To: SUSA
From: Uruguayan Collective

Your short-sightedness astonds us. We seek to be members of the larger ISCG, not the single nation of the Socialist Union. Our independence will be for the larger good of the socialist cause as we stand united as a variety of peoples, each choosing our own paths to true socialism. The Union was a means to an end which is more appropriately filled with the ISCG. Your threats of military force have already burned the bridge of any reunification, as how can we trust a government so willing to pursue avenues of violence against its brethren? We will not lay down our arms and will view SUSA military forces as a threat should our sovereignty as a nation not be recognized.

 

[Circuit]

To: SUSA
From: Uruguayan Collective

Your short-sightedness astonds us. We seek to be members of the larger ISCG, not the single nation of the Socialist Union. Our independence will be for the larger good of the socialist cause as we stand united as a variety of peoples, each choosing our own paths to true socialism. The Union was a means to an end which is more appropriately filled with the ISCG. Your threats of military force have already burned the bridge of any reunification, as how can we trust a government so willing to pursue avenues of violence against its brethren? We will not lay down our arms and will view SUSA military forces as a threat should our sovereignty as a nation not be recognized.

To: Uruguayan socialists
From: SUSA

If we were so willing to use military force, why would we still be talking to you? Why didn't we just set the tanks rolling (not saying they are) and settle at that? And why would we promise a demobilization and general pullout from North America (when the opportunity comes) and a refocus on domestic affairs if you remained?

 

[EQandcivfanatic]

To: Uruguay socialists
From: SUSA

Again, do you have terms for which you'd lay down your arms and rejoin the Socialist Union? We are willing to used armed force, and if we do not receive a response soon, we will assume that there are no terms...which would be to your own disadvantage. Not only would you be annihilated, the issues that irk you to the point of rebellion would not be resolved.

To: SUSA
From: Uruguayan Collective

In your own words, your statements of aggression towards fellow socialists. We have stated our position and on that ground we shall maintain our stance. We need not fight, just merely recognition of a sovereign collective within the larger Cooperative Group.

 

[Circuit]

To: Uruguayan socialists
From: SUSA

What makes you think that you will be accepted into the ISCG? You are spouting beliefs that are counter to many beliefs of the major members. The UCNA and SUSA share a belief in supporting Socialist or Communist causes wherever they may appear. The entrance of your tiny collective won't do us any good. Your economic importance is very much minimal; the only reason why we want you to remain is to prevent a dissolution of the Socialist Union! You ask to be protected and you are not willing to aid the causes of the ISCG? How hypocritical! You would be a drag on the ISCG. If we do grant your independence, we will lobby within the group to prevent your membership and the spread of your perverted interpretation of Socialism. It won't do our nation any good to reward your rebellious collective for your ungratefulness.

 

[Lord_Iggy]

The Métis Syndicate believes that a hypothetical independent Uruguay could be a strong contributor to the socialist cause, and that military conflict between the members of the Socialist International would bring about our rapid demise.

 

[Circuit]

After some sleep, some meditation and collective readings of Marx, we have decided that it would be best for all if Uruguay were permitted to leave the Socialist Union. It releases from us an unhealthy burden. But if there is a dissolution of the Socialist Union, it will be on their heads. We are not at all happy with the Uruguayans secession, but we most certainly do not want to go to war (willing does not equal will). The Uruguayans start off with 12 frownie-face stickers on the board; if they want help, don't look to Rio.

 

[Tyrion]

To France
From England:

We are happy to fight alongside you against the scourge that is the communist menace, however you have not yet made your stance clear in regards to Georgia. Do you support their treasonous actions or have you expelled them from your alliance?

 

[Crezth]

To France
From England:

We are happy to fight alongside you against the scourge that is the communist menace, however you have not yet made your stance clear in regards to Georgia. Do you support their treasonous actions or have you expelled them from your alliance?

To: England
From: France

French leadership has gathered in earnest over the issue of Georgia and we have discussed the matter with other Axis nations. We believe that the best course of action is yet to be determined, however in the meantime we have dissolved support for them and when the Communists have been defeated, we will come to a table with Virginia and Louisiana to determine the fate of Georgia.

This meantime means nothing, however, if the Communists are not defeated. A united coalition would be very effective in hastening the demise of their flawed state.