A Brave New World Part 3

[Jason The King]

To Iraq-Oman Alliance
From Virginia

The direction in which Iraq and Oman are heading is dangerous. Foreign companies have a right to continue operating their property in your lands. Without foreign investment, your economic growth would come to a halt.

To France
From Virginia

Virginia hopes France is watching with a close eye the events unrolling in the Persian Gulf/Arabian peninsula. Nationalizing private businesses in these countries could come at a heavy cost to Virginia AND the French Empire, as well as the rest of the world. Should a coordinated effort at containing this risk be needed, Virginia welcomes a private conversation.

 

[DarthNader]

From: Oman
To: Virginia

Petroleum Development of Oman, the largest oil company in Oman, paid an oil company operating in Iraq an extremely large sum of money for its oil wells, refineries, and other facilities. We don't see how this action is anything but a typical business transaction. If Virginia does not see it this way, we are willing to listen to your opinion.

 

[Abaddon]

Great Update EQ!

 

[Agent 89]

To: Iraq
From: Arabistan

While we are upset that you have completely ignored our requests for an alliance in favor of Oman, we still wish to build better relations with our brothers in Iraq, perhaps starting with increased trade.

 

[Jason The King]

From: Oman
To: Virginia

Petroleum Development of Oman, the largest oil company in Oman, paid an oil company operating in Iraq an extremely large sum of money for its oil wells, refineries, and other facilities. We don't see how this action is anything but a typical business transaction. If Virginia does not see it this way, we are willing to listen to your opinion.

Our concern is not the amount of money Petroleum Development spent, but the policy of the Iraqi government that forced oil companies to accept the terms.

Oman's financial resources were turned towards purchasing some foreign held oil wells aggressively while Iraq's government forced them to sell.

 

[Toteone]

I love the unknown investment function. It adds more excitement to the projects and research!
Btw.: EQ would you add my Geofinancial thing to the project counters please? Just to help me keep track. And more importantly I think the stats update missed me and Korea's upped Air Equip from Bombshoo.

 

[sp1023]

I love the unknown investment function. It adds more excitement to the projects and research!

It also adds more reality, cuz sometimes you just throw money at something and it doesn't work out.

 

[Karalysia]

(I'll think of something more suitable EQ.)

New Holland declares war on Pancasila.

This despotic and murderous nation has clearly shown itself unworthy of self determination. For the good of the religious minorities and Muslims alike as well as to hinder the brutal degredation of women, practitioners of the arts, any many more cliques of human society cruelly murdered by this nation the people of Indonesia will be liberated by a coalition of justice!
New Holland hereby calls on all allies in its war of liberation!
(I think I can argue even medieval Europe treated women better than conservative and radical muslim societies do and that our timeline's white men would object to what is likely regular practice in Pancasila.)

OOC:

<----------- These are my rape faces. I'm going to make you a woman.

You would be mistaken btw about women. The status of women in this NES is low, with the majority of countries in the world not having women's sufferage at all, and many don't allow women in the workforce and this includes the European and North American countries and if I'm not mistaken your country as well. So the "oppression" of women wouldn't be seen as an issue here, and furthermore in this NES I haven't singled out women for any special degree of oppression, it's even in my orders beyond the patriarchal enforced domestic roles which every nation except maybe Iceland imposes. So oppression of women is OOC and isn't legitimate grounds for war. Killing large amounts of minorities is a far better justification.

I will respond IC later on.

 

[Ninja Dude]

Story:

Spoiler :

el-Sadat looked at the men through his dirty sunglasses. Sure, it was indoors, and the room itself was dimly lit, but he had heard that this sort of thing was cool. el-Sadat liked to be cool.

The med were tied up, sniveling with a mixture of snot and blood running down their noses. A large window of Plexiglas separated him from their sniveling pleas for mercy. Unfortunately, his cronies on the other side didn't have that luxury. The could only grind their teeth and dream of the moment when they either get the hell out of the room, or gun the men down.

el-Sadat turned to his advisers. These captives had attempted a coup, which could have been rather unpleasant for the el-Sadat regime. Sure, the process of instituting a form of government that didn't involve the military was taking a bit longer than expected. But it's impatient men like this that cause such delays. After a rather quick discussion, Anwar and his men had agreed on these would-be plotters' fates.

"After much deliberation," el-Sadat's voice echoed in the room with the captives. "I have decided to pardon you all."

He could see the men's smiles; their unbridled joy. Even with their blindfolds on, he could see tears of joy getting through.

His men raised their guns.

"Release them."

Their guns thundered. At point blank the restrained men were tore apart. Within a second or two the men were dead, and the guards were exiting the room, glad to finally be rid of the conspirators. As soon as the guns had gone silent they had turned to one another, talking about the Virginia-Colombia game and other mundane things. They all treated it like any other day at the job. All except one.

One soldier, newly added to the ranks of el-Sadat's bodyguard, had just stood there when the guns went off. He had even stood there as the janitor walked in to dispose of the bodies. Only after the calls from his comrades did he leave the room. But as he left, he turned to Anwar, who was still still sitting in front of the window, enjoying a cup of coffee.

"Sir, why did we just kill those men?" The man asked without thinking. He quickly slapped himself on the head and dropped to the ground. "Forgive me sir, it was inappropriate for me to question your commands. Please just kill me and spare my family."

el-Sadat looked at the man before him. He gave a hearty chuckle, and even elbowed one of the generals next to him as if a hilarious joke had been told.

"Because I have mercy," el-Sadat whispered to the man.

The soldier looked up with a puzzled expression.

"Do you not see that I am the most humane man in this country?" el-Sadat continued. "Those men were destined to die. They had committed treason. And I do not harbor traitors in my country, let me tell you. But tell me, would it have better if I had simply told them that they were going to die and that in all likelihood their family and friends were going to pay for their treason as well? No, it wouldn't have. I gave them one last moment of joy and hope before their death. "

The man nodded his head slowly, realizing that even if he disagreed, it would probably be wise to do it anyways.

"And so, now that it is clear that I am a humane and just man, I dismiss you."

The man picked himself up and ran to where his friends were watching the game on an almost comically small TV. Behind him he could hear el-Sadat's eerie chuckle; warm, yet at the same time treacherous.

Kickass diplomacy:

Message to the French Empire from Anwar el-Sadat
I am positive that the rumors of French spying within my country are untrue. I will be sure to eradicate those that attempt to ruin France's good name in my country.

Message to the Rashids from Anwar el-Sadat
I am positive however, that only my prowess as a master of intelligence has prevented your men from destabilizing my lands and causing the deaths of thousands. I demand reparations (10 EP) from you in order to make amends.

 

[Circuit]

OOC: EQ, I did not buy influence in Chile. You attribute the influence I did buy to the wrong nation. Please correct this in the stats.

Great update, though! Any issues with my orders? I figured that one article should have been mentioned, so either you thought it wasn't important or you nullified it. Right?

 

[Terrance888]

Young girl Alisha White Tail survives the Flu!

Alisha White Tail remembered feeling sick when she was eleven. However, this memory was strong because almost everyone she knew at the time was sick. Her father was too sick to carry the news as hard as he might. School was closed for a month and reused as hospitals for distribution of the rare medicine, and to hold the worst. Finally, she remembers feeling like she was burning up.

However, she was one of the lucky ones to survive with a mix of her Father's state connections and her unknown mother's money, which appeared from a hidden strongbox. She was rushed to the once-educational hospital and given fluids and various primitive medicines that gave her the strength needed to fight off the sickness. Her father, incapacitation, wasn't close to death. However, her crush, a boy with wide eyes down the street, died the next day trying to carry his dead mother to the graveyard and collapsing with sickness, no one on the streets to help him.

However, riots never occured due to the sickness, and pamphlets on how to survive were distributing even before her neighborhood was hit. Although many died, they have held together with family and people. Although it was a challenge for the Lakota Sioux, it was a challenge they bravely faced together.

She can remember as the fever slowly left the city. People wandered outside again, businesses opened up. Government officials went too and fro recounting the population and helping those striken. It was the a bad time of death, but also a good time of community.

@ EQ, my training (or equipment? I forgot) didn't go up and there are no Project stats (I lost my PM, I think I deleted already). My economy went down although thankfully, my stability didn't. Wuzzupwidat?

 

[Toteone]

The status of women in this NES is low...

I was aware of it, and thanks for the info, but I'm not sure if I agree its as bad as in Pancasila (I could be wrong about how it is in Pancasila though, but I imagined it was like Afghanistan under the Taliban. But it seems I was wrong as you're not targeting them and thinking more closely about it I think maybe that sect is a bit easier on women (I'm just guessing this since it was mentioned as being similar to the one the Iranians base their government on.).
You seem very knowledgeable about muslims, myself I've been reading a bit about the status of women in different times of western history and most of it while quite repressive isn't as bad as the feminists make it out to be... Ottoman muslims back around the battle of the Curzolariz (late 1500s) for example thought Westerners gave incredible latitude to their women.
As far as I can figure out women have roughly the status they did in the early 1820s when they had begun to rebel and there was a backlash against them in society but before they had begun to reap significant rewards. (I'm not too clear on women's liberation at all though.)
Regardless they were not subjected to as restrictive clothing, employment, legal justice, female circumcision and etc as men in a conservative Muslim society.
Plus Holland is loosely dominated by Dutch culture which has been liberal (though at times xenophobic, justified or not) to varying degrees for centuries.
That said I am open to being convinced otherwise. I had previously thought things were loosening up for women when they got the washing machine, etc., towards the end of ABNW II, but I guess the emphasis was on 'watching the women for if they get too much free time'. ^^

I agree fully on the issues of defending minorities being the flag case though, I'm sure your machete victims would prefer being chained to the kitchen sink.


From New Holland to Nijeria
We demand the return of our assets to our businessmen or immediate compensation for them now and the next ten years.
Failure to comply may very well mean forced collection either at the hands of mercenaries, allies or ourselves when we have the time.
Should you comply we will consider sponsoring an aid program and lobbying for an international development fund for Africa when the war ends.

 

[Karalysia]

I know.
That's why I added that part. You seem very knowledgeable about muslims, myself I've been reading a bit about the status of women in different times of western history and most of it isn't so bad
As far as I can figure out women have roughly the status they did in the early 1820s when they had begun to rebel and there was a backlash against them in society but before they had begun to reap significant rewards.
Regardless they were not subjected to as restrictive clothing, employment, legal justice, female circumcision and etc as men in a conservative Muslim society.

I'm not sure if you're talking about the NES or RL, but there's nothing the things I've bolded applies to women everywhere in both cases. More to the point there's not explictly in the Quaran, or even the Hadith for that matters that warrants the things you've mentioned. Prophet Muhammad even enjoined Muslims to treat women well and fairly and established legal justice for women, with women who are divorced having the right to a portion of their husbands property, and in certain times in Islamic history women had the right to intitate divorce themselves not just men such as with Persia. Furthermore there were very prominent women in Islamic civllizations, and the practice of FGM isn't a Islamic practice, it's an African tribal tradition among some groups, FGM isn't practice throughout the Middle East, the majority of it happens in places like Egypt, Sudan, Somalia, and West Africa so it doesn't really have anything to do with Islam as its being praticed by Christians, Muslims, and Animists. The "special" oppression that women are subjected to I believe can be traced to the rise of Wahabahism and Wahabhi influence, it's countries like Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Afghanistan, Yemen, and Sudan that women are the worst off, while places like Iraq, Syria, Turkey, Malaysia, Pakistan, India, Bangaldesh and Indonesia women really aren't too horribly off and have become presidents or Prime Minsiter and are politcians and so forth. It doesn't have to do with Islam so much as the patriarchial socities that have had a radical backlash under Wahabhi influence and like the feeling of power and control over women that they get.

 

[Toteone]

Reading this level of argument I can tell you know better than me. I'll retract the IC statement then. *edit* Thanks for enlightening me!

 

[sp1023]

I'm not sure if you're talking about the NES or RL, but there's nothing the things I've bolded applies to women everywhere in both cases. More to the point there's not explictly in the Quaran, or even the Hadith for that matters that warrants the things you've mentioned. Prophet Muhammad even enjoined Muslims to treat women well and fairly and established legal justice for women, with women who are divorced having the right to a portion of their husbands property, and in certain times in Islamic history women had the right to intitate divorce themselves not just men such as with Persia. Furthermore there were very prominent women in Islamic civllizations, and the practice of FGM isn't a Islamic practice, it's an African tribal tradition among some groups, FGM isn't practice throughout the Middle East, the majority of it happens in places like Egypt, Sudan, Somalia, and West Africa so it doesn't really have anything to do with Islam as its being praticed by Christians, Muslims, and Animists. The "special" oppression that women are subjected to I believe can be traced to the rise of Wahabahism and Wahabhi influence, it's countries like Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Afghanistan, Yemen, and Sudan that women are the worst off, while places like Iraq, Syria, Turkey, Malaysia, Pakistan, India, Bangaldesh and Indonesia women really aren't too horribly off and have become presidents or Prime Minsiter and are politcians and so forth. It doesn't have to do with Islam so much as the patriarchial socities that have had a radical backlash under Wahabhi influence and like the feeling of power and control over women that they get.

The amusing thing about Bangladesh is that we have yet to have a MALE Prime Minister; they've all been women so far.

EDIT: Scratch that, the two most recent ones have been women... I didn't know about the other ones.

 

[Luckymoose]

The amusing thing about Bangladesh is that we have yet to have a MALE Prime Minister; they've all been women so far.

Totally false. You've had plenty of male prime ministers.

 

[Lord of Elves]

Switching to Sweden if that's at all possible.

 

[Behind The Mask]

Message to the Rashids from Anwar el-Sadat
I am positive however, that only my prowess as a master of intelligence has prevented your men from destabilizing my lands and causing the deaths of thousands. I demand reparations (10 EP) from you in order to make amends.

To: Anwar el-Sadat

Dearest brothers, while we do not appreciate the tone taken, we can excuse that as a misunderstanding considering current events.

Please understand that we have no ambitions in, or around, the land of the Nile. This vicious plot is indeed despicable however in all truth we have invested no means by which to infiltrate our neighbors.

Indeed, we are unaware of the events surronding this matter but should you look into it you will find we truly have no involvement.

We will not pay these reparations; if not only for the fact that there was no damage done but also in that we are entirely innocent. We are open to further diplomacy on the matter as we are eager to clear our name but known that we will not accept any unjust demands built on false beliefs.

Our question is why you so quickly excuse the French yet condemn your brothers in faith? We have no ill designs against you, and this event was quite unfortunant if the some of those involved were of Rashid origin, but have the knowledge they draw no ties to our government.

 

[EQandcivfanatic]

@Lord of Elves you're welcome to Sweden.

 

[Toteone]

To the Splendous Orthodox Russia, From New Holland
Dear Russia, as defender of the Orthodox denomination and Christian faith New Holland hereby respectfully and humbly requests fiscal aid to aid her in her battle against those who would commit war crimes against your co-religionists.

To the Venerable Catholic France, from New Holland
While it is true that we have not always seen eye to eye we believe the current conflict transcends secular concerns as it is a battle for the very survival of all who are not fanatics. We appeal to your caring side and respectfully request fiscal aid to help protect your co-religionists.

To the Great Catholic Mexico, from New Holland
In light of our blossoming understanding we humbly request military support in this conflict.


To his Holiness the Pope, From New Holland
As a nation of a mixed religious identity with a significant Catholic minority we humbly request that the cornerstone of the Church, the successor of Saint Peter, Jesus' representative on Earth, that you bless our soldiers and their efforts to protect your sheep in Indonesia and the flocks of the other false Gods, as the Testaments teach us to show mercy and grace.
For did Jesus even a single time rebuke the Roman soldier? Nay. Then how much more should our cause be sanctified by heaven? The road forward may be treacherous, but for those who overcome there will be victory and the tree of life.
We humbly and politely request that his holiness bless our mission and call upon all faithful Catholics to send part of their regular tiths and irregular donations to a special account with the New Holland revenue services for this war in defense of religious minorities and human rights.

To all other Major Christian Figures
We respectfully and politely request your fiscal support in this conflict.

To Alaska
Due to the difficulty of managing supply lines from your remote location we encourage you to instead offer a financial donation or if you insist dispatch an expeditionary naval force to be put under New Hollander control.