tossi
Der kleine Prinz
for! I can understand that those who contributed something to the pbwiki want it to stay, but I hope that a move will bring more activity towards the project.
A NES Wiki?
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Kozmos
Jew Detective
For! I've complained first about the s****y layout of the PBwiki.
Symphony D.
Deity
In order to eliminate the issue of transfering material as a factor in the debate, I've taken the liberty of copying everything contained in PBWiki to the new Wiki, excluding the following articles: "Guide to NESing" (mainpage link instead), "ITNES I Updates", "ITNES I Updates: IT I", "ITNES I Updates: IT I: Maps", "NES Rules", "RealWorldverse", "SandBox", "SideBar", and the PBWiki specific articles.
The Guide and Rules are rather conditional and best served by the link, in my opinion - the Guide, at least, would require serious textual cleanup to be presentable. The ITNES section was mostly insubstantial and can be added in a more logical fashion later (ideally under a single page... no need for several). RealWorldverse seemed superfluous as it was covered by OTL - TTL and nobody much uses the term. "#NES" was retitled to "Chatroom" as # characters are apparently not acceptable for MediaWiki page titles. "OTL-TTL" was retitled to "OTL - TTL" as a stylistic change. "Significant NESers" was similarly reduced to simply "NESer", and "The" was dropped from "The Creatures of NESing". If anybody is just adamantly opposed to these changes, or the various little stylistic changes (mostly grammar, person, or formatting) that I made, you're free to change them.
You may browse the copied works at your leisure. With that out of the way, votes may continue as they will.
The Guide and Rules are rather conditional and best served by the link, in my opinion - the Guide, at least, would require serious textual cleanup to be presentable. The ITNES section was mostly insubstantial and can be added in a more logical fashion later (ideally under a single page... no need for several). RealWorldverse seemed superfluous as it was covered by OTL - TTL and nobody much uses the term. "#NES" was retitled to "Chatroom" as # characters are apparently not acceptable for MediaWiki page titles. "OTL-TTL" was retitled to "OTL - TTL" as a stylistic change. "Significant NESers" was similarly reduced to simply "NESer", and "The" was dropped from "The Creatures of NESing". If anybody is just adamantly opposed to these changes, or the various little stylistic changes (mostly grammar, person, or formatting) that I made, you're free to change them.
You may browse the copied works at your leisure. With that out of the way, votes may continue as they will.
Gelion
Retired Captain
jalapeno_dude
AKA Panda Judo Eel
Can someone who NESed at Apolyton write an article about NESing there?
Now that the articles have been migrated to the Wikipedia looking wiki, we might as well just stay there. No one seems to be actually making the argument that the orange wiki looks better then the standard one.
@Swissempire: Could you edit your first post to include a link to the wiki? Looking though the thread time and time again to find the link is moderately annoying.
@Swissempire: Could you edit your first post to include a link to the wiki? Looking though the thread time and time again to find the link is moderately annoying.
Symphony D.
Deity
Well, if we're going to use it, random note: interwiki links use two brackets (eg: "[[NESing]]") instead of one. A few other formating changes are also prevalent--looking at styling guides is advised (I had to look up some stuff too while converting everything). On the plus side, if we run with it, whoever works with it will know how to edit Wikipedia proper (and most other major Wikis) fairly intuitively.
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Sheep
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Israelite9191
You should be reading
Anyone know if foolish icarus is still around? I seem to remember seeing him at Apolyton the few times I took a glance. He seems to still be active there and semi-active here, so he should be able to write a good article on Apolyton NESing.
Israelite9191
You should be reading
Could you ask him then Iggy? Thanks and thanks. 
Symphony D.
Deity
Well, I'm irritated. Wiki-Site apparently doesn't currently permit Parser Functions, so setting up infoboxes (like the sidebars you see on Wikipedia) that can be applied as universal templates is impossible. You'd basically have to hand-build each one for each page, which is stupid. It'd be an immensely useful function for NESer and NES information pages too, so that's highly annoying. I'll see about signing up to the help forum and inquiring whether the functions are available or not soon, but it doesn't really ausage my concerns that a lot of MediaWiki's higher functions require upgrading (and paying money) either. Looking back on it with this knowledge, a Scratchpad Wiki at Wikia might've been a better option. Lesson learned for everyone (both from the PBWiki and the new one): do not just rush in and create something on a whim.
Symphony D.
Deity
Doublepost, but I have good news. I've managed to get older-style reference templates working, and have managed to half-ass a decent looking table (based on the Wikipedia Template:Infobox Military Person, because it looks better than the regular ones like Scientist or Writer) that can be added and subtracted to at will.
An example of what can be achieved in terms of user pages can be seen here. Since it's probably the only difficult thing to pull out of studying the page in Edit mode, here's how the infobox works:
Your user name goes up top, your real name down below (you can put "n/a" or your first initials and last name or full name or whatever), and relevent information you want to put in down below in the Subject Fields. By copying one of the Subject Fields formats you can add as much or as little as you want. Subject Field 3 is an example of how to add multiple lines of data after a given subject. Generally only edit things between < and > (except for that <br>, that's a line break) and it should continue to work. Pictures can be added too, although I'd rather address than when it comes up. If somebody's interesting in doing that I could probably help.
Further possibilities worth investigating beyond the obvious include player feedback, story indexes, battle history, etc. If each major NES were then to receive its own page it would become exceedingly easy to cross-reference events in a given NES to the individual players, their thoughts and opinions, game history, and so on.
On the subject of Apolyton, why doesn't somebody just post a link to their forum about the Wiki? They've got their own traditions and history so it makes sense to have them get involved instead of having just a page. We're fairly short on people actually willing to edit the thing so the bigger the pool of potential editors, the better. Plus, if and when we ever go for a full-fledged Wikia, the size and diversity of tradition will help our case that much more.
Oh, yeah, last thought: if you make a profile, you could put it in your sig here in order to draw more interest to the Wiki and NESing as a whole, both of which seem like productive activities.
An example of what can be achieved in terms of user pages can be seen here. Since it's probably the only difficult thing to pull out of studying the page in Edit mode, here's how the infobox works:
Code:
{| align="right" border="1" colspan="3" width="315" style="border: silver;"
|-
! style="background: lightsteelblue; text-align: center; font-size:100%;" | <NESER NAME>
|-
| style="background: lightsteelblue; text-align: center; font-size:95%;" | <REAL NAME>
|-
|
{| border="0" colspan="3" style="background: pale; text-align: left; border: pale; font-size:95%;"
| '''<SUBJECT FIELD 1>''' || <DATA FIELD 1>
|-
| '''<SUBJECT FIELD 2>''' || <DATA FIELD 2>
|-
| '''<SUBJECT FIELD 3>''' || - <DATA ITEM 3A> <br>- <DATA ITEM 3B>
|}
|-
|}Further possibilities worth investigating beyond the obvious include player feedback, story indexes, battle history, etc. If each major NES were then to receive its own page it would become exceedingly easy to cross-reference events in a given NES to the individual players, their thoughts and opinions, game history, and so on.
On the subject of Apolyton, why doesn't somebody just post a link to their forum about the Wiki? They've got their own traditions and history so it makes sense to have them get involved instead of having just a page. We're fairly short on people actually willing to edit the thing so the bigger the pool of potential editors, the better. Plus, if and when we ever go for a full-fledged Wikia, the size and diversity of tradition will help our case that much more.
Oh, yeah, last thought: if you make a profile, you could put it in your sig here in order to draw more interest to the Wiki and NESing as a whole, both of which seem like productive activities.
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