A New Dawn Beta Builds

[Bobisback]

In beta7? They shouldn't be being depleted at all. I only set values for mining resources.

I had this same issue in beta 6, clams where disappearing to...... I have not got to beta 7 yet you are to fast.

p.s i guess I should jsut wait for beta 8 then hahahaha

 

[Sch3nzee]

There is an issue in Beta7 with UN National Wonder, it was there in Beta5 but since it was about when Beta6 came up I thought it was fixed (it worked good in Beta6). At first, UN National Wonder (I do have UN HQ) appears in city screen as (Recommended ???). After some time it's UN ... (???) then (? ?) and then, one turn, something weird happens and the whole city screen (the one that pops up when the city has finished building) doesn't show anything exept for examine city or the unit above and some weird marks, you can enter the city screen and build like usual and after the UN national is build nothing wrong is happening. You can also click the screen and then it starts to build the UN national wonder. If a city cannot build any more national wonders the city building screen is normal.

 

[Afforess]

There is an issue in Beta7 with UN National Wonder, it was there in Beta5 but since it was about when Beta6 came up I thought it was fixed (it worked good in Beta6). At first, UN National Wonder (I do have UN HQ) appears in city screen as (Recommended ???). After some time it's UN ... (???) then (? ?) and then, one turn, something weird happens and the whole city screen (the one that pops up when the city has finished building) doesn't show anything exept for examine city or the unit above and some weird marks, you can enter the city screen and build like usual and after the UN national is build nothing wrong is happening. You can also click the screen and then it starts to build the UN national wonder. If a city cannot build any more national wonders the city building screen is normal.

Can you upload your PythonErr.logs, in the Documents/My Games/Beyond the Sword folder?

 

[Bobisback]

I got a question, when you click on your name and it makes all the scores disappear, is there a hotkey for this, hehe I have to many civs and I am at the top of the list so I cannot click my name and now my game is super slow

dammit that is so annoying......

 

[Afforess]

I got a question, when you click on your name and it makes all the scores disappear, is there a hotkey for this, hehe I have to many civs and I am at the top of the list so I cannot click my name and now my game is super slow

CONTROL-ALT-O and in the Scoreboard tab, change the Maximum displayed scores.

 

[os79]

Or just click off Advanced Scoreboard checkbox. It will return to vanilla scoreboard and speed up the motion of the map.

 

[Afforess]

Alright, Beta 8 is mostly a bug-fix beta, but that's a good thing. I think I've fixed every bug reported to-date. So if you find a bug, please let me know. If not, this week will have a new official release.

Beta8:

New Features:

• Blue Marble Terrain - optional in custom installs
• Dark Ages - New Page in Civilopedia

Bug Fixes:

• Updated to CivTBone's Modular Guilds latest release
• Updated to CivTBone's Modern Corporation's latest release
• Updated to ANM 2.2
• Fixed bug where wonders could be built more than once
• Fixed bug where wonders requiring a set number of other buildings never met the conditions
• Fixed the Claim Territory button
• Fixed the missing wonder movies

Have Fun!!!

 

[Arakhor]

You are officially amazing, Afforess

 

[Munger]

Great, thanks Afforess. I seriously think you may be the quickest working modmaker I have ever come across on the web.

One question regarding dark ages - it appears that they can override golden ages, as I was only 4 turns through a golden age and suddenly a message came up saying my golden age had ended and another saying my dark age had begun. Not sure if it is supposed to work like this?

Also, is there a minimum period of time between when dark ages can occur? I seemed to be getting them one after another for a while, but only for a short number of turn each time.

I can definitely confirm that dark ages can happen to many civs all at once. It was quite common in my game to have lots of messages come up one after the other within the same turn stating that several civs had started a dark age.

I wonder if it would be possible to add an icon in the top right for dark ages like the coin the shows up when you are in a golden age? Not essential by any means, but sometimes it can be difficult to remember whether you are currently in a dark age or not!

My only other comment would be that dark ages seem to happen a little too often; certainly a lot more than golden ages. In a game with 10 civs playing, at least one of them was almost always in a dark age, and sometimes many.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and nice one for adding Blue Marble! You will all become one... with AND.

 

[radiobeaver]

You are officially amazing, Afforess

yep! he is...

I have 2 points for the beta 8:

gamespeedinfo: marathon is still on 1400 (I change it everytime to 1500) I´m sure you just forgot about...

and I still have no wondermovies. It´s not dramatic because it is only aesthetic, but you know...


kind regards

 

[Sch3nzee]

I hope this helps. This problem in beta7 happened on multiplayer hotseat, but probably the error log file is the same. If not, tell me what to upload.

 

[Grathocke]

I've noticed that a Dark Age always seems to happen as soon as a civ ends its Golden Age. Well, let me explain. I started out with just one civ, me the glorious English empire. As civs have appeared and organized, they go into their golden ages, then as soon as that finishes, they revert to a Dark Age. A little severe, don't you think? I have a pretty good empire going (7 cities) and have yet to have a Dark Age. I think I will start a golden age to see if it happens to me as well.

 

[Munger]

I've noticed that a Dark Age always seems to happen as soon as a civ ends its Golden Age. Well, let me explain. I started out with just one civ, me the glorious English empire. As civs have appeared and organized, they go into their golden ages, then as soon as that finishes, they revert to a Dark Age. A little severe, don't you think? I have a pretty good empire going (7 cities) and have yet to have a Dark Age. I think I will start a golden age to see if it happens to me as well.

Agreed, there seems to be some sort of correlation between the two. As I mentioned above, I actually had a golden age interrupted by a dark age at one point!

 

[Grathocke]

Agreed, there seems to be some sort of correlation between the two. As I mentioned above, I actually had a golden age interrupted by a dark age at one point!

I just forced a golden age using world builder. As soon as it ended I went into a dark age. The effect doesn't seem too traumatic, though. Personally, I think in a Dark Age that the wonders should stop working, although I'm not sure that could be made to happen. It would affect the human player most, since I'm sure we all build more wonders than the AI.

 

[radiobeaver]

I think the dark age thing is much too harsh... As others here described it starts immediately after the golden age and since 300 turns my empire is in dark age. as soon it ends, it starts the next turn again. it just sucks.

I like the concept but it must be drastically limited.

 

[CivTbone]

I've downloaded beta8 twice so far and I keep getting an error message. Same thing every time (5 attempts at installing over fresh copies)

I run windows 7 64 bit, and the path is games (x86)/etc etc/Rise of Mankind.

The WoC installer ends just after Action: File processed: etc.. \Assets\XML\AudioDefines.xml
Message: Successfully read etc etc\Assets\XML\Audio
Message: Application done.

In all, there is about 8 lines showing in the WoC installer.

 

[Afforess]

I've downloaded beta8 twice so far and I keep getting an error message. Same thing every time (5 attempts at installing over fresh copies)

I run windows 7 64 bit, and the path is games (x86)/etc etc/Rise of Mankind.

The WoC installer ends just after Action: File processed: etc.. \Assets\XML\AudioDefines.xml
Message: Successfully read etc etc\Assets\XML\Audio
Message: Application done.

In all, there is about 8 lines showing in the WoC installer.

Wait, what? The WoC installer just merges audio, I believe that's a standard completion report from it. Does the game work okay?

 

[Slammer64]

I have Win 7 Pro 64bit and didn't have any problems with the installer, and I have the Civ IV Complete version from 2K Games.

 

[strategyonly]

I've downloaded beta8 twice so far and I keep getting an error message. Same thing every time (5 attempts at installing over fresh copies)

I run windows 7 64 bit, and the path is games (x86)/etc etc/Rise of Mankind.

The WoC installer ends just after Action: File processed: etc.. \Assets\XML\AudioDefines.xml
Message: Successfully read etc etc\Assets\XML\Audio
Message: Application done.

In all, there is about 8 lines showing in the WoC installer.

Wait, what? The WoC installer just merges audio, I believe that's a standard completion report from it. Does the game work okay?

That is absolutely correct, its just notifying you that what was installed, just delete that and you should have no further problems, i hope.

 

[Afforess]

You are officially amazing, Afforess

Was I Unofficially Amazing before this?

One question regarding dark ages - it appears that they can override golden ages, as I was only 4 turns through a golden age and suddenly a message came up saying my golden age had ended and another saying my dark age had begun. Not sure if it is supposed to work like this?

Really? That should not be happening. Golden Ages get priority. I need to check that.

Also, is there a minimum period of time between when dark ages can occur? I seemed to be getting them one after another for a while, but only for a short number of turn each time.

No. There is no minimum delay. If you fail to correct the circumstances for the dark age, expect to repeat it.

I can definitely confirm that dark ages can happen to many civs all at once. It was quite common in my game to have lots of messages come up one after the other within the same turn stating that several civs had started a dark age.

I wonder if it would be possible to add an icon in the top right for dark ages like the coin the shows up when you are in a golden age? Not essential by any means, but sometimes it can be difficult to remember whether you are currently in a dark age or not!

I'm no artist. If someone would design me an icon, I'd add it.

My only other comment would be that dark ages seem to happen a little too often; certainly a lot more than golden ages. In a game with 10 civs playing, at least one of them was almost always in a dark age, and sometimes many.

IDK, sounds like the real world to me...

Seriously though, Dark Ages is a major change and will need lots of changes before it becomes perfectly balanced. In all honesty, I was very tempted to hide the game option from everyone so I could get the Beta into an Official release without all this talk.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and nice one for adding Blue Marble! You will all become one... with AND.

Resistance is Futile!

gamespeedinfo: marathon is still on 1400 (I change it everytime to 1500) I´m sure you just forgot about...

Yep. I realized this about 15 minutes after I uploaded it.

and I still have no wondermovies. It´s not dramatic because it is only aesthetic, but you know...

... that Aesthetics are everything? Yeah. I thought it was because of some python bug, I need to look further into it.

I hope this helps. This problem in beta7 happened on multiplayer hotseat, but probably the error log file is the same. If not, tell me what to upload.

Nope, that's the correct file, thanks!

I've noticed that a Dark Age always seems to happen as soon as a civ ends its Golden Age. Well, let me explain. I started out with just one civ, me the glorious English empire. As civs have appeared and organized, they go into their golden ages, then as soon as that finishes, they revert to a Dark Age. A little severe, don't you think? I have a pretty good empire going (7 cities) and have yet to have a Dark Age. I think I will start a golden age to see if it happens to me as well.

This is an intentional mechanic. Let me explain:

Dark Ages can not occur until you meet one of two requirements:

• Research Fundamentalism
• Or have your first Golden Age

Whichever comes first allows you to get a Dark Age. So often times, after meeting either requirement, you've accrued enough Dark Age points in the early game to set one off immediately.

Agreed, there seems to be some sort of correlation between the two. As I mentioned above, I actually had a golden age interrupted by a dark age at one point!

No just a correlation; causation!

I just forced a golden age using world builder. As soon as it ended I went into a dark age. The effect doesn't seem too traumatic, though. Personally, I think in a Dark Age that the wonders should stop working, although I'm not sure that could be made to happen. It would affect the human player most, since I'm sure we all build more wonders than the AI.

Why would a Dark Age stop wonders? IMHO, I'm worried I made Dark Ages too harsh.

I think the dark age thing is much too harsh... As others here described it starts immediately after the golden age and since 300 turns my empire is in dark age. as soon it ends, it starts the next turn again. it just sucks.

I like the concept but it must be drastically limited.

There are ways to avoid Dark Ages. I added a new Civilopedia Article for it, with lots of detail.

However, I'm going tweak Dark Ages a bit. They shouldn't happen for some turns after a Golden Age and Dark Ages shouldn't loop endlessly as much.