Praetyre
King
Misprint on my part; concrete is now an OR requirement, as it should be.
A Not So Modest Proposal Regarding Buildings, Resources and Units
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JosEPh_II
TBS WarLord
Have you 2 considered reducing the number of prereqs (both OR and AND)?
You have many now with a total of 6 prereqs. And 2 known cases of 7 exceeding the globaldefines limit of 6.
An observation on this process. Since you started this change and as more gets implemented EoT times are also becoming markedly longer. Hence the question above.
JosEPh
You have many now with a total of 6 prereqs. And 2 known cases of 7 exceeding the globaldefines limit of 6.
An observation on this process. Since you started this change and as more gets implemented EoT times are also becoming markedly longer. Hence the question above.
JosEPh
An observation on this process. Since you started this change and as more gets implemented EoT times are also becoming markedly longer. Hence the question above.
JosEPh
That would indicate a bug, which I think Koshling is going to look at tomorrow.
JosEPh_II
TBS WarLord
@ls612,
I posted a savegame in bug thread with a moderate, for my comp, EoT lag.
JosEPh
I posted a savegame in bug thread with a moderate, for my comp, EoT lag.
JosEPh
It would appear that your guess was correct, Koshling found some issues with the CanBuild caching using the profiler. Not everything in this mod you see as bad is intended.
JosEPh_II
TBS WarLord
Just a matter of observation and being aware of what and when things get changed. My father, a mechanic from the age of 14 to 85 tomorrow, always said, If it's not working right go back to the last thing you did and start from there.
And quit trying to get me in trouble!
JosEPh
And quit trying to get me in trouble!
JosEPh
Hydromancerx
C2C Modder
@Praetyre
1. Tweaked Nanofactory and Network Node.
2. Naval Academy is in the Core so you will need to change it.
3. Where/What is "Nomad Granary"?
1. Tweaked Nanofactory and Network Node.
2. Naval Academy is in the Core so you will need to change it.
3. Where/What is "Nomad Granary"?
I don't think it exists yet, it was planned on being something for the Nomad mod.
Hydromancerx
C2C Modder
@Praetyre
1. Tweaked Observatory, Oil Derrick, Olive Press, Opera House and Oxen Mill.
2. Obelisk was already done.
3. Oil Refinery and Orbital Factory are in the core. Please change them.
1. Tweaked Observatory, Oil Derrick, Olive Press, Opera House and Oxen Mill.
2. Obelisk was already done.
3. Oil Refinery and Orbital Factory are in the core. Please change them.
Hydromancerx
C2C Modder
@Praetyre
1. Tweaked Parking Meters and Potter's Hut.
2. Palace Walls and Palisade are already changed.
3. I am not sure what to do with the Park Arcology since it may just be better to require the Arcology. But then what to do when it upgrades into the Colony Arcology?
4. Planning Office, Polis Council, Presidential Monument and Press Agency I think are in the core, so you will need to change them.
5. Parts come too late for the Power Lines I think. Also someone suggested that they have Copper Wires. What do you think? Like wires + pole?
6. Public Pool is redundant with the Aqueduct. No need to list building materials.
7. Ok post the next set.
1. Tweaked Parking Meters and Potter's Hut.
2. Palace Walls and Palisade are already changed.
3. I am not sure what to do with the Park Arcology since it may just be better to require the Arcology. But then what to do when it upgrades into the Colony Arcology?
4. Planning Office, Polis Council, Presidential Monument and Press Agency I think are in the core, so you will need to change them.
5. Parts come too late for the Power Lines I think. Also someone suggested that they have Copper Wires. What do you think? Like wires + pole?
6. Public Pool is redundant with the Aqueduct. No need to list building materials.
7. Ok post the next set.
Praetyre
King
Tweaked all of the core ones you mentioned; they're now in the SVN.
Also, Nomad Granary was a building I recall seeing in the Civilopedia a few versions back; could have been removed as a mere prototype for the Nomadic Camp mod.
One could have them as OR building requirements.
That's a fantastic idea; go ahead.
No Qs, so it's straight to one long R set;
Radar Station: Requires Steel AND Copper Wires OR Fiber Optic Cables
Railroad Station: Requires Bricks AND Coal AND Steel
Ranger Station: Requires Furniture AND Lumber
Recreation Center: Requires Furniture AND Bricks OR Concrete
Recruitment Center: Requires Laboratory
Recycling Center: Requires Factory
Red Curtains Theater: Requires Movie Theatre
Reeducation Center: Requires Jail
Rehabilation Center: Requires Concrete AND Furniture
Reservoir: Requires Bricks
Retirement Home: Requires Suburbs OR Apartments OR Highrises
River Port: Requires Lumber
Royal Monument: Requires Bricks
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Also, Nomad Granary was a building I recall seeing in the Civilopedia a few versions back; could have been removed as a mere prototype for the Nomadic Camp mod.
One could have them as OR building requirements.
That's a fantastic idea; go ahead.
No Qs, so it's straight to one long R set;
Radar Station: Requires Steel AND Copper Wires OR Fiber Optic Cables
Railroad Station: Requires Bricks AND Coal AND Steel
Ranger Station: Requires Furniture AND Lumber
Recreation Center: Requires Furniture AND Bricks OR Concrete
Recruitment Center: Requires Laboratory
Recycling Center: Requires Factory
Red Curtains Theater: Requires Movie Theatre
Reeducation Center: Requires Jail
Rehabilation Center: Requires Concrete AND Furniture
Reservoir: Requires Bricks
Retirement Home: Requires Suburbs OR Apartments OR Highrises
River Port: Requires Lumber
Royal Monument: Requires Bricks
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Hydromancerx
C2C Modder
@Praetyre
1. Tweaked Power Lines, Ranger Station, Recycling Center and River Port.
2. Radar Station is the core so you will need to change it.
3. Red Curtains Theater is a corporation buildings so you will need to change it.
4. Royal Monument is in the core but I think it should be Marble AND Gold since its "royal" and all.
1. Tweaked Power Lines, Ranger Station, Recycling Center and River Port.
2. Radar Station is the core so you will need to change it.
3. Red Curtains Theater is a corporation buildings so you will need to change it.
4. Royal Monument is in the core but I think it should be Marble AND Gold since its "royal" and all.
Hydromancerx
C2C Modder
@Praetyre
1. Tweaked Security Bureau, Skate Park, Ski Resort, Spear Fishermen's Hut and Speedway.
2. Sacrificial Altar is in the core so I need you to change it. However I think it should be Bricks OR Stone OR Marble.
3. Safari Hunters Guide and Standard Ethanol Distillery are corporation building so they are in the core and you will need to change them.
4. Social Justice Organization is in the core so you will need to change it.
5. Steel Mill comes before Factories are invented so it would not make sense for them to require one.
6. Stocks would come too late at Feudalism since they would be replaced with Gallows at Civil Service tech.
7. Ok post the next set.
1. Tweaked Security Bureau, Skate Park, Ski Resort, Spear Fishermen's Hut and Speedway.
2. Sacrificial Altar is in the core so I need you to change it. However I think it should be Bricks OR Stone OR Marble.
3. Safari Hunters Guide and Standard Ethanol Distillery are corporation building so they are in the core and you will need to change them.
4. Social Justice Organization is in the core so you will need to change it.
5. Steel Mill comes before Factories are invented so it would not make sense for them to require one.
6. Stocks would come too late at Feudalism since they would be replaced with Gallows at Civil Service tech.
7. Ok post the next set.
Praetyre
King
Trading Post OR Factory, then, like we did with Brewery?
Fair enough.
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We're very close to the end of buildings, so I'll list the rest in a single chunk;
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This is pointing out some strange things in game play. For example it is cheaper to build a castle than it is to build a trading post.
And housing in the later eras costs about 1/8th of other buildings in that era.
Hydromancerx
C2C Modder
Thanks for the feedback guys.
@Praetyre
Now that you reached the end of the list you should go over all the buildings again, since I noticed there were a bunch of newer buildings not on you list that you probably would have added to your list if they had been there when you first made your list.
@Praetyre
Now that you reached the end of the list you should go over all the buildings again, since I noticed there were a bunch of newer buildings not on you list that you probably would have added to your list if they had been there when you first made your list.
Hydromancerx
C2C Modder
@Praetyre
1. Tweaked Terrace, Tire Factory and Training Dojo.
2. Tar Refinery comes at Mining. That's WAY before Factory becomes available.
1. Tweaked Terrace, Tire Factory and Training Dojo.
2. Tar Refinery comes at Mining. That's WAY before Factory becomes available.
JosEPh_II
TBS WarLord
This is wrong. You don't need glassware for a winery nor furniture, Wood yes, pottery yes.
JosEPh
Praetyre
King
How about Barter Post OR Trading Post OR Factory, then? A bit awkward, but it avoids the issues of having building requirements based on physical infrastructure well into the modern age.
Alright, that seems like a good change to me.
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