Here's the same nebula in blue.
http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/64883main_image_feature_211_jw4.jpg
Riddle me that, oh my wise, and best, belovèd!
(Just So Stories.)
Good point. Another translation of the verse (it's only English that's limiting the meaning of the verse in question here if you're wondering):
Dr. Ghali
Then, when the heaven is cloven so it becomes
rosy-like ointment.
Confirmed yet again. An exploding nebula is definitely rosy-like. Only a daft person would deny that.
Easy. Quran invited photoshop
And yet hundreds of thousands of people verified or saw the verses embroidered on the toddler's skin - either that, or every single one of them was a blind idiot (watch the video if you care).
You're either really dense or completely in denial.
I'm not sure that showing an example of an exceptional child's success is evidence that something is 'easy'.
I can assure you, that verse is very, very false to me. I cannot even read the Qur'an. Saying it's easy to remember is just not true. Again, it takes incredible callousness on your part to suggest it's 'easy'.
If my Korean TV came with a Korean manual but was advertised as 'includes easy-to-understand manual', I'd think the advertisement was a lie. The courts would agree.
Look, I'm not an unreasonable person. I believe that there were dinosaurs. I believe my mom loves me. I believe that Pluto has a Moon. I believe that there are good reasons to say 0.999(repeating) = 1. I'm not overly skeptical.
But if you want me to think the Qur'an is easy to memorize, you're just daft. I cannot even read it. You cannot say God intentionally made it in a language I don't understand (even though I'm a reasonable fellow) and then proclaim that the Qur'an is 'easy' for me. That verse doesn't apply to me, and it's entirely not my fault that verse is false for me.
You're the poster who came up and insists on the idea of a fictitious "bad" spirit as the source of the Qu'ran if I recall correctly, right?
In Islam, angelic spirits follow the will of God at all times because they were commanded to do nothing else and have no free will. However, there are also spirits that seek to deceive humankind and get them to err (Jinn). The devil (Iblis) is one of the Jinn himself.
The Qur’an specifically warns against the spirits who tell humankind to err. Now the question is, if this book was narrated to Muhammad by a spirit that wants to deceive humankind and deviate them from God, why in the world would this same spirit enjoin people to worship Allah and declare itself the enemy? Such a notion is contrary to rational thought or any common sense for that matter. I'm pretty sure I've stated that before. But I'm not surprised, words simply fly over your head it seems.
As for your personal perceived difficulty of memorizing the Qur’an: the Arabic text uses the word, “Dhikr”, which means remembrance. The word for memorization in Arabic is “Hifz”. The Qur’an does not say that it is easy for memorization, but for remembrance, meaning that it is easy to remember what the Qur’an is about, what is enjoins Muslims to do, what it prohibits Muslims from doing, and the meaning of its examples and parables.
Knowing you however, you might bring up the argument by saying that the Qur’an is only easy to remember for those who are dedicated, educated and intelligent. In that case, if that was true, then the Qur’an’s message would only be limited to those who have ample amounts of time to dedicate to its reading, those who were fortunate enough to receive an education and those who were born with the ability to acquire knowledge and skills.
While the last skill applies to every human being and is therefore redundant, not every human in the world has the time or ability to receive an education. That would make remembrance of the Qur’an exclusive for only certain people, which would not make it a universal book.
You may now argue that people with amnesia or mental disabilities cannot easily remember the Qur’an then. False yet again. The Qur’an says that it does not burden anyone beyond their means (In surat at-talaq and elsewhere). And because some of those people cannot even comprehend some of the obligations of the Qur’an, it means that they are not obligated to follow them.
Finally, you may argue that the Qur’an is then hard to memorize for non-Arabic speakers. No. Even though the Qur’an does not mention memorization in that verse, that there are several people around the world who do not know Arabic, yet have memorized it. Example: 3 year old Turkish child who has memorized the entire Qu'ran without even being able to read or know any Arabic. A miracle in itself. Give me an example of any 3 year child out there who has memorized an entire book (600+) in a foreign language that they could not even read or understand?
That proves that knowledge of the Qu'ranic language is not required, because you can easily memorize it by listening to it time and time again.
If you say the that anything can be easy to memorize by listening to it more than once, the Qur’an does not claim to be the only book easy to remember, so there is no argument to be made there.
@Borachio You're alleging that Islam is morally bankrupt? In Islam, murder is the act of one person killing someone else. The crime rests on the killer, and no one else, because every individual is accountable to their own individual actions in Islam. So your assumption that the definition of murder can be changed is false. Just because your definition of murder is morally bankrupt, it does not mean that Islam is morally bankrupt.
@Steph Still waiting for you to show me an example of a 3 year old child (or younger) who has memorized an entire book of over 600 pages in a foreign language that they could not either read or understand. Take your time.
They're the embodiment of goodness. Hint: they're called angels for a reason. And false yet again, no spirit is powerful or all knowing save God. God is the only perfect entity.
