A question for the businesspeople

blackheart

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OK so I'm going to be going to college to major in International Business and my chosen career is in the area of business but I am surprisngly lacking in the understanding of what businesspeople do exactly. Could anyone here in the field of International Business, management, exec, or actually whoever has knowledge of it please explain?
 
I'm not really an expert, but I'm guessing that most business people are either related to managing the economy, or managing a business in relation to economic supply and demand on an international level.

I'm supposing you've got some foundation knowledge so I'd say a trip to the local relevant library would provide useful for when you start.
 
Reminds me of when I used to wonder what exactly goes on in all those towering skyscrapers out there.

I'm still not sure I'm entirely sure. I mean what exactly is 'office-work' :rolleyes:
 
I'm in accounting. What I do is insure that business people do their job by the rules.
in the business world, their are a thousand different things you can do, but your ultimate goal is almost always to make your organisation generate more profits, and their are thousand of ways to achieve that.

Example: You might think that a stable workforce will help you achieve your goal. To have a stable work force, you can come up with many different plans, all of which will require a lot of time to elaborate, to put in place, to supervise, to analyse, etc.

In which case you'd be something like a human ressource guy.

the same example can apply to marketing, finances, external ressources, accounting, budget, fiscality... and many more.

So.. what does a businessman do... I would say that you work on different projects, all of which have the ultimate goal of fulfilling the mission of the company. If your lucky enough it's gonna be something different every day.
 
blackheart said:
OK so I'm going to be going to college to major in International Business and my chosen career is in the area of business but I am surprisngly lacking in the understanding of what businesspeople do exactly. Could anyone here in the field of International Business, management, exec, or actually whoever has knowledge of it please explain?
Chose your area of specialization:
Finance
Marketing
Operations
Human resources
Information technology
Resarch and Development
Sales

There are sub categories in each one. What you do depends on which field you are in. People in CEO type positions are usually skilled in several areas. Negotiation skills are needed in all areas.
 
Is it true that finance is now the largest industry in the US? Is it just me, or is that kind of crazy, in a way?
 
WillJ said:
Is it true that finance is now the largest industry in the US? Is it just me, or is that kind of crazy, in a way?
Certainly could be if you include finance, accounting, auditing, banking, investing, tax and merger and aquisitions.
 
Birdjaguar said:
Certainly could be if you include finance, accounting, auditing, banking, investing, tax and merger and aquisitions.
Hmm, I don't remember if wherever I heard this from included all that.
 
They all fall under the broad category of "finance" in may big firms.

EDIT: a CFO (chief financial officer) would need to be familiar with all of them.
 
Birdjaguar said:
Chose your area of specialization:
Finance
Marketing
Operations
Human resources
Information technology
Resarch and Development
Sales

Add to that CEO,CFO,President, Board of directors and Only share holder with 100% of investments and you have a small buisness owner.
 
skadistic said:
Add to that CEO,CFO,President, Board of directors and Only share holder with 100% of investments and you have a small buisness owner.
Exactly right! :thumbsup: Been there, done that.
 
It's all about "wealth management." Increasing efficiencies, facilitating the economy, that kind of thing. You'd think, for example, that the insurance company for which I work would be primarily concerned about selling insurance. And indeed it does sell insurance, concentrating mostly on smallish policies, since that's its bread and butter. But its executives don't think of insurance as a product that they're selling in the same way that GM sells cars. Rather, an insurance policy is a class of investment, which people use to manage their wealth. The client puts money in, the company invests it, the company profits, and the client gains protection from inflation, and perhaps even makes some gains on interest.

As a businessperson, it could for example be your job to attack pretty much any stage of the operation, to increase the company's profits in whatever way you can think of. This is generally a matter of increasing efficiencies, until you get knowledgeable enough and senior enough to implement profitable policies. You could, e.g., design insurance policies so as to attract more customers, or to manage the company's risks in a more profitable fashion. Or you could research the market and decide what kinds of investment are best for the company to make, or specifically how customers' money should best be handled. Or you could work on figuring out how to maintain and expand the company's niche against competitors for consumers of insurance. Or you could do a human resources type of job, designing office systems, information flow, or communications between different branches of the company's organism. Or you could find ways to improve the company's medical standards for deciding whether to accept applicants, what kind of medical documentation to require from different age groups, how and when to refer cases to reinsurers, etc.

And then of course there's variation within all of those areas: if you're not very talented or bright, then you don't get much room to make business decisions, and instead get a job implementing those decisions. If you are talented and bright, and lucky, then you attain managerial or executive positions, and you can have direct influence on how the company does its business.

I hope this is some help. I only have experience in insurance, and not much at that, but I know it was an eye-opener for me to realise how much of the company's business has little to do with insurance itself.
 
Don't worry about it. You'll have these modern theories when you're done college and then not be allowed to implement them because your boss is a staid old fart. Then you'll spend the next 15 years trying to get enough status to implement some changes, and the young 'uns will be looking at you like you're crazy.

It seems like 99% of the jobs in offices are make-work. Writing reports that no one ever reads, just to cover the company's butt.
 
I find the term "business man" quite empty of specific meaning. A drug dealer is as much a business man as a CEO of a multinational FMCG company, and a self employed window cleaner is a business man as much as a stock broker is. A gangster running rackets in a neighbourhood is a "business man" also...

They all operate businesses, they manage enterprises. Ideally to turn a profit, but that's not always the case. Some business men operate businesses as covers for other (often criminal) enterprisess and sometimes making a profit isn't seen to be important. There are a whole load of different enterprises out there.

I am a "business man" these days. I work in the Financial Services sector, as a broker connecting CEO's around the world with their best possible sources of finance. I help them identify the right kind of finance, help them acquire it, guide them through the rules and hoops, and also advise them on how best to use it for any given operation. In an increasingly globalised economy, with regulatory obstacles to foreign finance being whittled away more and more, there's a role to play and I get to look into all kinds of industries from all over the world. They all need finance. And that's my "business".



WillJ said:
Is it true that finance is now the largest industry in the US? Is it just me, or is that kind of crazy, in a way?
Birdjaguar said:
Certainly could be if you include finance, accounting, auditing, banking, investing, tax and merger and aquisitions.
It is worth noting that many of the industries mentioned under this heading of "Finance" in Birdy's post are usually broken down and mentioned in sub-categories. The most important in studies of what is or isn't the largest industry in mature economies, such as the UK or USA's, is "Financial Services".

Frustratingly, it's quite variable as to whether a banker / accountant / stock broker works in Finance or Financial Services, depending on who is doing the study and for what. But I'm saying this because it's usually "Financial Services" which are cited in the kind of comments that WillJ points out. Such service industries are crucial to said mature economies, especially as we see manufacturing flee to distant lands.

This is very much the case with England's economy. Financial Services play a MAJOR role.
 
PS.

blackheart: I think the two most important areas of knowledge one would gain from such a course of study are:

a) Legal. Knowing the legal / regulatory framework that you and your clients operate in is key to running any business. And you'll have to deal with contracts of course.

b) Administrative. I see this as two fold. Firstly, there's the accountancy, which administers company finances within financial regulations. This is fundamental. Business people need to know how to read accountants' statements at the very least. Secondly, there's the wider administration of the company, which includes knowing the structure, organisational protocols and day-to-day running.

Have you any ideas what specialisations you might make?
 
El_Machinae said:
It seems like 99% of the jobs in offices are make-work. Writing reports that no one ever reads, just to cover the company's butt.

So a future of writing TPS reports eh :p
 
Rambuchan said:
PS.

blackheart: I think the two most important areas of knowledge one would gain from such a course of study are:

a) Legal. Knowing the legal / regulatory framework that you and your clients operate in is key to running any business. And you'll have to deal with contracts of course.

b) Administrative. I see this as two fold. Firstly, there's the accountancy, which administers company finances within financial regulations. This is fundamental. Business people need to know how to read accountants' statements at the very least. Secondly, there's the wider administration of the company, which includes knowing the structure, organisational protocols and day-to-day running.

Have you any ideas what specialisations you might make?

I am going to major in International Business, but I'm really unsure as to where this would lead. I have doubts about whether I want to do management, accounting, etc. But I believe I would like to be a negotiator of sorts.
 
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