Look, from my perspective you are all "butting" genocide all the time when you start in on half-baked notions about what "we" are going to do to save the world. Really? You're gonna save the world? With what, the UK government? Please.Where we come from doesn't matter in this context. I'm a freaking Brit, and I don't need to derail the thread with factual accounts on the bunch of ways we suck and have sucked.
It's pretty simple. If you're going to moral high ground about genocide, you don't "but" the genocide you find the most excusable. Because that makes you no different from everyone else who does it.
It's called critical analysis. And please stop with that "illegal invasion" nonsense. What's a legal invasion? Vietnam's invasion of Cambodia? Uh, no, not technically. The incipient ECOWAS invasion of Niger? Oh it's a coalition of nations! That means it's good, right?As for "moral decay", I don't think it's a genius take to say "Putin bad". Look at what he does to his opposition. Look at what he's doing to term limits. You can pontificate about other countries as much as you want, and in another thread you might have a much different reception. But this is the dedicated RD thread for Russia's illegal invasion of Ukraine, and I'm (personally) way past tired of "other countries bad".
Look, it's about understanding the international perspective and taking responsibility for being a high-ranking citizen of the empire. My voice counts for more than a Ukrainian's. I'm sorry, but it does. And I am not going to use it providing implicit support to the hawks that run the biggest imperial war machine in history (interestingly: neither Russian nor Chinese). You want to say I'm giving license to Russia? What, for criticizing the notion of an incipient NATO involvement in Ukraine? I say it's the consumerist pigs who refuse to find their own moral center who keep the war machines running.Yes, other countries bad. Yes, the Red Scare is still a thing (effectively). Yes, noble West vs. evil East is a trope that keeps on being played out. But that doesn't change the reality of the invasion. It doesn't mean that it's "morally correct" to abandon Ukraine to an impossible aid scenario that'll never play out. Even putting aside the genocide apologia, China aren't going to aid Ukraine.
Which makes your answer is "eff them lol, US bad". It's . . . not a very smart answer? We both agree reality is more complicated. Any solution is going to relate to international politics by definition.
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