A Question of Ettiquette

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If the door has a lock, then A is at fault.
If not, B is at fault.

Ultimately, it is not much of a deal in either case.
 
If the bathroom door is closed and the light is on, it's definitely a violation of good manners to barge in without knocking.

B is in the wrong.
 
If you don't lock the door, you pay the price!

What if you don't know whether there's a lock?

The scenario states they live in the same house... B knows there's a lock!
 
Person A. If that person is taking a poop, why isn't that person properly grunting with the effort?
 
Our bathrooms don't have locks and I don't really mind if this situation happens at my house. I think the situation is worse for person B, because he just walked into someone taking a stinky crap.

For those who are uncomfortable with bathrooms without locks: usually we knock around here, unless you suppose nobody's in the bathroom or if it's really, really urgent.
 
I can't believe half the people here think it's fine to just barge into a bathroom when the door is closed.

I think what we have here is a cultural clash of some sort. For example, some posters saying that bathroom doors do not have locks (WHAT???) or not locking them.

Where I live, everyone locks the door and no-one knocks in 99% of Bathroom situations. In your own home, at home with guest, as someone else's guest, public bathrooms. The only possible exception might be if you are alone at home. A closed door at home does not imply that it is being engaged. It just means that the door is closed.
 
Who the hell just opens a bathroom door without knocking??

We never locked the door in my family, because we are civilized people. ;) But we don't just close doors of empty bathrooms, either - so closed door means "OCCUPIED."

Must be a cultural thing, though. When I was a kid, my friend's dad would use the bathroom without even closing the door. It was really disconcerting to turn the corner to go take a leak and he's just sitting there on the can with his newspaper. :eek:
 
Must be a cultural thing, though. When I was a kid, my friend's dad would use the bathroom without even closing the door. It was really disconcerting to turn the corner to go take a leak and he's just sitting there on the can with his newspaper. :eek:
You know, if there's anything that doors are for.. :D
 
Around here pretty much every toilet has a lock. I can't remember ever seeing a toilet without one. As for the proper etiquette, a locked door means occupied. This works in reverse too: an unlocked door means unoccupied. Closed door does not mean occupied: it could be closed for a number of other reasons: maybe the door is in a hallway, so it has to be closed. Maybe the toilet has some odour issues. Who knows? But unlocked means unoccupied, locked means occupied.
 
I'm putting a bloody sign on my door when I get home tonight, just in case some of you B people ever visit.

"IF IT IS CLOSED
KNOCK BEFORE ENTERING
BECAUSE THIS HOUSE IS
CIVILIZED"
 
Okay, the first one of you B people who walk in on my little niece who was too young to figure out the lock are getting shot.
Honor killings:
bringing Muslim and Christian fundamentalists together since time immemorial.

:rolleyes:
 
I'm putting a bloody sign on my door when I get home tonight, just in case some of you B people ever visit.

"IF IT IS CLOSED
KNOCK BEFORE ENTERING
BECAUSE THIS HOUSE IS
CIVILIZED"

My situation: I never had to lock the door while I was in it. If anyone in my household ever walked in on me once, it was to their regret and never happened again. :lol:
 
I think what we have here is a cultural clash of some sort. For example, some posters saying that bathroom doors do not have locks (WHAT???) or not locking them.

Where I live, everyone locks the door and no-one knocks in 99% of Bathroom situations. In your own home, at home with guest, as someone else's guest, public bathrooms. The only possible exception might be if you are alone at home. A closed door at home does not imply that it is being engaged. It just means that the door is closed.
The few times I've talked about it with other people, it entirely depends on the person, their family's habits, and upbringing (such as if there was a working lock on the bathrooms in their homes). I also got the feeling that many (though not all) people who demand that the person inside is always at fault if they didn't lock the door are butthurt over walking in on someone and don't want to take the blame.

Around here pretty much every toilet has a lock. I can't remember ever seeing a toilet without one. As for the proper etiquette, a locked door means occupied. This works in reverse too: an unlocked door means unoccupied. Closed door does not mean occupied: it could be closed for a number of other reasons: maybe the door is in a hallway, so it has to be closed. Maybe the toilet has some odour issues. Who knows? But unlocked means unoccupied, locked means occupied.
That is only consistent in public/communal (ie in a work place) washrooms where most doors are designed to only remain closed if locked. Which is a very different situation from someone's home.

Should also note that the convention of knocking is discriminatory against deaf people, and mute people (who can't reply to a knock). With locks, if you're blind you can feel them or try the door, and you are presented with no issues if you are deaf or mute.
Most people are not deaf, and if a deaf person is involved then yeah locking is right.

There's also children who may not be able to reach the lock and you may not want them to lock themselves into the washroom for safety reasons. It really takes no effort to quickly knock on the door and try the lock before barging in. Even a simple "is anyone there? Because I'm coming in" is appreciated.

I think I've only walked in on maybe 4 people. And hadn't really been walked in on until I lived with roommates, and I was the only one who didn't walk in on someone.
 
Person B is at fault. Always knock before.
 
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