A very Special unit request....

Sword_Of_Geddon

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This object (shown in sketch) was found in 1898 in a tomb at Saqquara, Egypt and was later dated as having been created near 200 BCE. As airplanes were unknown in the days when it was found, it was thrown into a box marked "wooden bird model" and then stored in the basement of the Cairo museum.

It was rediscovered by Dr. Khalil Messiha, who studied models made by ancients. The "discovery" was considered so important by the Egyptian government that a special committee of leading scientists was established to study the object.

As a result of their findings, a special exhibit was set up in the center hall of the Cairo museum, with the little model as its centerpiece. It was even labelled as a model airplane.

To elucidate the reasons for the decision of the committee, almost unprecedented in the field of archeology, let's consider some aspects of the model. The model has the exact proportions of a very advanced form of "pusher-glider" that is still having "some bugs ironed out". This type of glider will stay in the air almost by itself—even a very small engine will keep it going at low speeds, as low as 45 to 65 mph., while it can carry an enormous payload. This ability is dependent on the curious shape of wings and their proportions. The tipping of wings downward, a reversedihedral wing as it is called, is the feature behind this capability. A similar type of curving wings are implemented on the Concorde airplane, giving the plane a maximum lift without detracting from its speed.

In that context, it seems rather incredible that someone, more than 2,000 years ago, for any reason, devised a model of a flying device with such advanced features, requiring quite extensive knowledge of aerodynamics. There were no such things as airplanes in these times, we are told by archeologists and historians. But this case seems to be an exception, living in the midst of the rather unimaginative and rigid paradigm of contemporary science. It is also necessary to point out that Egyptians are known to have nearly always made scale-models of projects and objects which they planned to create or build.

Precolombian Airplane Models
Is the concept of an airplane limited to Egypt? That doesn't seem to be the case. Gold trinkets were found in an area covering Central America and coastal areas of South America, estimated to belong to a period between 500 and 800 CE, but since they are made from gold, accurate dating is impossible and based essentially on stratigraphy which may be deceptive. However, we can safely say that these gold objects are more than 1000 years old.

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Apparently that gold airplane was a relic from the Teotihuacan.......
 
The Ancient Indians also refer to flying craft. Some texts can even be interpreted to say that the Great Sandy Desert of Australia is the result of WMDs fired from them. I would like a craft of this type to use for modding also.
 
Way to tottaly copy and apste off of soemthing witgout giving credit, swogster
 
Hmm... I also remember reading somewhere that in India (where some ruins dating back over 10000 years have been found), a layer of soil that is about the same age as the Biblical (and Greek Mythological and Incan Mythological and Iroquois Legendary) Great Flood had Certain radioactive isotopes associated with U-235 Fission fallout were found.... And it wouldn't actually require a huge amount of technology to make a U-235 A-bomb either, just a certain amount of U-235... Although these "airplanes" found in Egypt and MesoAmerica might give some credence to the existence of an advanced civilization 10,000 years ago that was virtually destroyed by the Flood... Or possibly of the existance of Atlantis, who knows... This is just more proof that there are still some real mysteries about civilization that need solving.
 
I believe there is an author (Erik Von Daniken or something close) who theorized that the many different "airplane" type statuettes/cave paintings etc... were proof in Aliens visiting the ancient world...he says Aliens used to visit all the time, and didnt hide it. But when mankind got more powerful weapons the aliens got sneakier...

ANYway...

Snakelover...if you Model it, I'll give it a Shot at animation(Im sure there are Plane animators who would help with the finer points)...Id like to see this one, it would fit into someones "Mythology" mod I remember being talked about...we could make it a "Joint Entry" for this(more like 2-3) month(s from now)...
 
Also, re-reading the article about the Egyptian model, it sounds almost exactly like a Goa'uld Death Glider from Stargate, especially the part about the down-swept wings......

Maybe the Stargate series is closer to the truth than we might think.....
 
Sword_Of_Geddon said:
Am I the only one that thinks it seems like some bearded guy in a wide-open raincoat? :crazyeye:

It would be fun to model this one, I think I'll take the challenge.
Finally proof that Stargate is based on reality... ;)


Hikaro Takayama said:
Hmm... I also remember reading somewhere that in India (where some ruins dating back over 10000 years have been found), a layer of soil that is about the same age as the Biblical (and Greek Mythological and Incan Mythological and Iroquois Legendary) Great Flood had Certain radioactive isotopes associated with U-235 Fission fallout were found.... And it wouldn't actually require a huge amount of technology to make a U-235 A-bomb either, just a certain amount of U-235...
In the right circumstances nuclear reactions can even occur naturally in the ground: http://www.ocrwm.doe.gov/factsheets/doeymp0010.shtml
Luckily these circumstances are not met anymore anywhere in the world due to nuclear decay...
 
Flamand said:
Am I the only one that thinks it seems like some bearded guy in a wide-open raincoat? :crazyeye:

It would be fun to model this one, I think I'll take the challenge.
Finally proof that Stargate is based on reality... ;)



In the right circumstances nuclear reactions can even occur naturally in the ground: http://www.ocrwm.doe.gov/factsheets/doeymp0010.shtml
Luckily these circumstances are not met anymore anywhere in the world due to nuclear decay...

Thankyou again ;) Flamand
 
Flamand said:
Am I the only one that thinks it seems like some bearded guy in a wide-open raincoat?
Yeah, not only is he ithyphallic, but you can tell by that fishy tail of his that he's the Dogon-inspired space-alien pseudo-deity from "The California Voodoo Game".
 
Flamand, The soil found around (and in) the 10,000 year old ruins in N. India contained a layer of Heavy Iodine and whatever else is the result of splitting U-235, and these elements never occurr in nature. in addition, the layer of radioactive soil was spread over the area much like the fallout from the A-bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.... While a sustained fission reaction is difficult to achieve, an uncontrolled reaction involving U-235 is quite simple... All one needs is enough U-235.
 
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