[Addons] Additional Wonders
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I did splashes for the Moai and Sphinx
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I've attached below the dds conversion of the Pouakai pics above
Furthermore, I've added a different (low quality) Ishtar Gate splash
To use them simply replace the existing dds in your CiV mod folder
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Panama Canal & Three Gorges Dam Wonders are out 
You may download it at the link below or using CiV mod browser:
Panama Canal
Three Gorges Dam
Three words about these wonders...
First: splash screens and icons are 2K productions. These arts are included, although not used, in vanilla CiV. May be there was a 2K design to use them at the beginning, but there is no reference to them in the current CiV code. Thus I've used these arts and built the wonder mods accordingly.
Second: my initial plan was to assign "hidden nationality" to ships as Panama effect, and "free hydro plants" as Gorges effect. Unfortunately, the "hidden" feature doesn't work and the "free building" feature has two bugs: you may sell the plants in every city every game turn gaining lots of money while the plants still remaining there, and you get the "free" plants disregarding of building requirements as aluminium, river and so on. Thus I've ended with the effects you may see in the shots below.
Third: concerning the Canal, it's impossible through XML to define the real geographical position of the city (i.e facing two opposite oceans). Would be fine if someone could implement it with Lua/DLL
Panama Canal Screenshots
Three Gorges Dam Screenshots
You may download it at the link below or using CiV mod browser:
Panama Canal
Three Gorges Dam
Three words about these wonders...
First: splash screens and icons are 2K productions. These arts are included, although not used, in vanilla CiV. May be there was a 2K design to use them at the beginning, but there is no reference to them in the current CiV code. Thus I've used these arts and built the wonder mods accordingly.
Second: my initial plan was to assign "hidden nationality" to ships as Panama effect, and "free hydro plants" as Gorges effect. Unfortunately, the "hidden" feature doesn't work and the "free building" feature has two bugs: you may sell the plants in every city every game turn gaining lots of money while the plants still remaining there, and you get the "free" plants disregarding of building requirements as aluminium, river and so on. Thus I've ended with the effects you may see in the shots below.
Third: concerning the Canal, it's impossible through XML to define the real geographical position of the city (i.e facing two opposite oceans). Would be fine if someone could implement it with Lua/DLL
Panama Canal Screenshots
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Three Gorges Dam Screenshots
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No, there aren't.
There is a Hadron Collider splash, but it's a black image. However it gives me the idea to make a LHC wonder also.
I've updated upcoming wonders list in post #1 accordingly.
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Due to the next Polynesian DLC, I need some tips about what I have to do now with my custom Moai wonder. Remove it? Let it for no-DLC-owner? Modify its effect like the 2K one?
If you have an idea, please let a comment
Thanks
If you have an idea, please let a comment
Thanks
I'd go for option 2. Unless maybe they will get a new type of effect that wasn't possible before with the XML, then I'd take option 3.
I see no reason to remove it. I'll keep it in my mod for sure
I also included an LHC wonder in it btw. It has 2 free scientists and 100% SS production; any weaker and it would probably be pointless to build so late in the game. I'm curious to what artsy splash you come up with (if you go through with it), I just used a photo.
I see no reason to remove it. I'll keep it in my mod for sure
I also included an LHC wonder in it btw. It has 2 free scientists and 100% SS production; any weaker and it would probably be pointless to build so late in the game. I'm curious to what artsy splash you come up with (if you go through with it), I just used a photo.
Take the opportunity to create a new one that replaces it altogether!
Once you're (somehow, i feel the prolific series has more surprises in stock for us all!) through with the whole bunch of "alternatives", i'll consider adding the entire gimmicks into LeoPaRd's Flavor or Re-Balancing Gameplay sections.
I guess it deserves the Package status, at least... instead of individual files.
There was an interesting thread where we offered Wonders (Found it... Here) - have a look at some cool stuff from plenty of people, mine was the CN-Tower, etc.
Once you're (somehow, i feel the prolific series has more surprises in stock for us all!) through with the whole bunch of "alternatives", i'll consider adding the entire gimmicks into LeoPaRd's Flavor or Re-Balancing Gameplay sections.
I guess it deserves the Package status, at least... instead of individual files.
There was an interesting thread where we offered Wonders (Found it... Here) - have a look at some cool stuff from plenty of people, mine was the CN-Tower, etc.
Easter Eggs or Heads?
Civ 4.5, yet again!
Consider this, Sneaks... what we have is a carefully balanced DLC with Polynesia that even multiple Wonders hit wide and sharp.
All of it for pure Fun or strategic context.
What modders can do is add supplemental value that actually provide reasonable (or rational, if you prefer) assets.
ambrox62 stuff deploys huge diversity & of superb quality at that but also some tricky ruleset deviations.
I've got nothing against both and yet, a single Wonder can help you win 250 turns faster than what Vanilla allows.
Factor in many - you get chaos.
Civ 4.5, yet again!
Consider this, Sneaks... what we have is a carefully balanced DLC with Polynesia that even multiple Wonders hit wide and sharp.
All of it for pure Fun or strategic context.
What modders can do is add supplemental value that actually provide reasonable (or rational, if you prefer) assets.
ambrox62 stuff deploys huge diversity & of superb quality at that but also some tricky ruleset deviations.
I've got nothing against both and yet, a single Wonder can help you win 250 turns faster than what Vanilla allows.
Factor in many - you get chaos.
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Thanks everyone for the tips.
After reading your comments, I've decided to let Moai unchanged for a while. I think also there will be many people not buying the Poly DLC, thus they can still use the wonder if they wish.
@Zyxpsilon - You wrote about "Package status" and "ruleset deviations".
One of the purposes of these wonders is to let modders to use them in their modpacks, modifying the effects accordingly if needed. Alternatively, every player can choice one or more wonders to play with at his pleasure in a vanilla game.
An "all-wonders" package results in a huge "ruleset deviations" for sure, although it could be funny for someone. Obviously I prefer to let wonders as separate addons.
A "ruleset deviation" is what I absolutely don't want by these wonders. If you (or someone else) think that there is one or more broken wonders, please point the finger on it and I'll change its effect accordingly. I prefer a useless wonder instead of a unbalanced one. In my games usually I build wonders for pleasure more than for strategic reasons.
@Moriboe - There are no chances to find a LHC painting somewhere. Its splash will be a photo, of course. May be just a bit reworked with graphic tools.
After reading your comments, I've decided to let Moai unchanged for a while. I think also there will be many people not buying the Poly DLC, thus they can still use the wonder if they wish.
@Zyxpsilon - You wrote about "Package status" and "ruleset deviations".
One of the purposes of these wonders is to let modders to use them in their modpacks, modifying the effects accordingly if needed. Alternatively, every player can choice one or more wonders to play with at his pleasure in a vanilla game.
An "all-wonders" package results in a huge "ruleset deviations" for sure, although it could be funny for someone. Obviously I prefer to let wonders as separate addons.
A "ruleset deviation" is what I absolutely don't want by these wonders. If you (or someone else) think that there is one or more broken wonders, please point the finger on it and I'll change its effect accordingly. I prefer a useless wonder instead of a unbalanced one. In my games usually I build wonders for pleasure more than for strategic reasons.
@Moriboe - There are no chances to find a LHC painting somewhere. Its splash will be a photo, of course. May be just a bit reworked with graphic tools.
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As a result of the latest patch, the present effect of Tower of Babel wonder works and should be read as follow:
Culture cost of acquiring new tiles reduced by 25% in this city.
Next version will fix the wonder as follow:
Culture and Gold costs of acquiring new tiles reduced by 50% in this city.
I prefer it will work like a mighty krepost instead of to be a clone of the Angkor Wat.
Culture cost of acquiring new tiles reduced by 25% in this city.
Next version will fix the wonder as follow:
Culture and Gold costs of acquiring new tiles reduced by 50% in this city.
I prefer it will work like a mighty krepost instead of to be a clone of the Angkor Wat.
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None.
I've just noticed that the last uploaded mod is the Parthenon Wonder in the past week (Feb, 23). After that date, nobody uploaded any more.
