AG13 - OCC Demigod

[Aggie]

Rep Parts sounds like a good idea. Then I would go Sanitation or Sci Method, depending on the fact if AI can get to ToE first. I would definately want Sanitation soonish.

 

[microbe]

Good idea! But we have an MA and when that's gone so will probably this great deal. They want to pay extra because of the Sumeria-MA.

Almost certainly. We have almost NOTHING to use to attack. This war is pretty pointless without being able to go on offense. I am very disappointed. We have to make peace, build sipahi, then come back. It's a long time before we could hurt Persia.

 

[microbe]

Rep Parts sounds like a good idea. Then I would go Sanitation or Sci Method, depending on the fact if AI can get to ToE first. I would definately want Sanitation soonish.

If so, then go for Sanitation first.

We need to decide how to proceed with the war plan. If we can't go on offense for a long time, then delay RP to the AI would be good to do, otherwise when we get enough sipahi's they'd already have infantry. I'm afraid we'll lose the window to effectively use our sipahi against rifles.

 

[Aggie]

We have to make peace, build sipahi, then come back.

We can't break the MA deal, unless we choose to have Sumeria declare war. That would mean that we have to fight Sumeria for a while and then get back to Persia. I expect no peace with Sumeria for 10 turns then. But at least we can get Sipahi...

We can end the ROP now (and also some resource lux deals!!).

 

[microbe]

We can't break the MA deal, unless we choose to have Sumeria declare war.

We have to wait until the MA is over, then another 20 turns for peace. That's why I said it's a long time. Even then we'd probably not have enough sipahi. I'd like to see 10-15 sipahi before we take on Persia again.

I think we need to get Sanitation and Industrialization in the mean time to improve our production.

 

[Aggie]

OK, we missed a big opportunity here. But at least Sipahi are very effective until TOW.

 

[microbe]

OTOH, could we afford a war against Hitties? They have saltpeter (although that's pretty far). We could build rifles, so we could manage a big stack of them with those trebs. We have to do this after MA though. If we could kill them, we could even merge their workers to get to max pop immediately.

I think we need to do this anyway at some point, as we need permanent source of saltpeter.

 

[LKendter]

OK, we missed a big opportunity here. But at least Sipahi are very effective until TOW.

I agree with you. I really was hoping for Sipahi during the age of muskets.

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A factory with rails and Hoover could give us 1 turn military units. I would head toward ToE. If nothing else we need to deny Hoover to the AI. They will be hard enough to fight without a production booster.

I would avoid RP as that may speed up the AI getting to Infantry. At that point AI fighting is useless.

 

[microbe]

A factory with rails and Hoover could give us 1 turn military units. I would head toward ToE. If nothing else we need to deny Hoover to the AI. They will be hard enough to fight without a production booster.

I am absolutely against Hoover. This is a rather small world and it takes ages for AI to get to that tech. Even ToE isn't as big a deal to me. We need to push for military. The only thing I think it vital is factory (and MAYBE coal plant).

 

[Gyathaar]

its turn 5, persia allied hittites vs us and inca after first making a trade embargo vs us
hittites captured the incan lux town, and thus broke the ivory and 80gpt incas was paying us, so research at higher than 70% is at a loss...

replacable parts will take 12 turns at 90% and -39gpt.
(sanitation 8 turns, ToE 9 turns, industrialization 10 turns)

The trade embargo will prevent us from buying salt from persia after the war unless persia and hittitites go to war..

 

[microbe]

So the choice is clear. We just take on Hitties. Let's go for Sanitation then.

EDIT: by the way, we shouldn't be blocking Sumeria after we get into the war with Persia.

 

[Aggie]

I'm interested in the way we got to war with the Persians. I await the turnlog. How can we take on the Hittites while at war with Persia? Persia won't talk for a loooooong time (this being the 3rd or 4th war).

 

[Gyathaar]

Persia will talk.. we have been to war with them for around 20 turns...

Both hittites and incas have weak armies vs us, so we can most likely kill off hittites if we want...

Still 6 turns left of our alliance vs Persia with sumeria.. persia has 2 size 1 towns and 1 size 2 town, so getting 2 of them for peace after capturing one town should be no problem...

 

[Aggie]

Sorry Gythaar. Drank too much (1 glass)

 

[Gyathaar]

It costed 2 sipahi ( I should have attacked with knights first ) but we have an empty army now...
I assume I should make a sipahi army?

 

[Aggie]

You assume correctly. This changes a lot. It won't be attacked and is a superb pillaging weapon And of course a lean mean killing machine!

 

[microbe]

Nice! Sipahi army! This means we'll always have sipahi to attack. Backed with an SoD of artillery, which we could always build, plus some riflemen, we could already go on offense toward even Persia. (did we make peace?)

Let's get the saltpeter if possible, then we can win the game!

 

[Aggie]

Nice! Sipahi army! This means we'll always have sipahi to attack. Backed with an SoD of artillery, which we could always build, plus some riflemen, we could already go on offense toward even Persia. (did we make peace?)

Let's get the saltpeter if possible, then we can win the game!

I agree completely! Persia needs to learn a lesson If we have peace we can make them decalre without any effort at all. Just order them to leave. But I like to see Sumeria join the party. We can't fight on two fronts as OCC.

 

[microbe]

Oh, we have a lot of trebs. Upgrading is too expensive. They should be disbanded to accelerate artillery builds.

 

[LKendter]

Oh, we have a lot of trebs. Upgrading is too expensive. They should be disbanded to accelerate artillery builds.

I agree with the condition that we keep the foreign ones. The cost ZERO gold to maintain.