Altered Maps 4: Partitioning Eastern Europe Like In The Good Old Days
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Yes, we know that all ethnic German areas should in fact belong to Poland... 
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Sqounk, there is EU3 for a reason:
At this point, I forgot to rename former Teutonic lands and Pommerania, but I did. I'm now somewhere in the 1430's, I'm allied with a huge Novogorad which I helped destroy all russian minors, and all that is left is a 1PM Muscovy. I also launched a Crusade against Goldenhorde, and annexed ots of Southern Russia, and released Ukraine as a vassal, which has all areas east of Kiev (excluding Kiev, I'm keeping it
) as well as former Golden Horde lands. I gifted Smolensk to Novgorad since than to. (I think it is required for them to form Russia)
At this point, I forgot to rename former Teutonic lands and Pommerania, but I did. I'm now somewhere in the 1430's, I'm allied with a huge Novogorad which I helped destroy all russian minors, and all that is left is a 1PM Muscovy. I also launched a Crusade against Goldenhorde, and annexed ots of Southern Russia, and released Ukraine as a vassal, which has all areas east of Kiev (excluding Kiev, I'm keeping it
) as well as former Golden Horde lands. I gifted Smolensk to Novgorad since than to. (I think it is required for them to form Russia)
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All those poor Lithuanians...
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What version is this? I see a lot more provinces than usual. 
Yes, we know that all ethnic German areas should in fact belong to Poland...
are there actually any ethnic germans left there though
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Not really. Lithuanians probably make 1/16 of the people in this Polish-Lithuania (and in real life to.
What version is this? I see a lot more provinces than usual.
WWM.
I'm one of the modders, and i'm in the work of revamping the whole region. My goal is to give Poland as much detail as Germany. (so there are over 15 Polish provinces now, excluding Lithuanian owned Polish ones, the reworked Teutonic area, and others. I'm also working on Ukraine, Belarus and the Baltic states.
PS. Can a person with some knowledge of Russian give me the romanized russian words for East and West? I want to split of Severia into two as it is to big imo in my modding plans.
I'm just playing a test game with Poland to see what needs to be improved before I start adding random regions.
Also, I'm dividing Slovakia into 4 states. (5 including the Tatra mountains which are also shared with Silesia, Czech and Poland) These states will be Pressburg (bratislava) Ersekujvar (Southern Slovakia) Zemplin (Eastern Slovakia) and a general Slovakia region in the middle.
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Severia? Where's it?
If you're talking about Siberia (Sibir' in Russian), "East" and "west" as in feminine gender singlular form adjectives (Sibir' is feminine gender) are "vostochnaya" and "zapadnaya". Since romanized Russian looks really weird, you'd better just keep English words for East and West, honestly...
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I understand now.
I have to say I find it rather funny that you use the Hungarian name "Szatmar" and the Romanian name "Maramures" for two provinces that are right next to each other. It's even funnier if you consider that the name "Szatmar" has a Romanian origin and "Maramures" has a mixed Hungarian-Vulgar Latin origin.TheLastOne36
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That wasn't my doing. I haven't touched the area of Hungary or Romania yet.
Also since your here, I'm thinking of dividing Silistria into two. One called Dobruja (or the Romanian or Bulgarian version of it) and the other called Silistria. What do you think of this? Also, how can you further divide Romania? I think Romania has too little provinces.
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I don't assume you know East or West in Ukrainian, as Ukrainian could also work for Severia. Although I bet that it is fairly similar.
Maybe i'll keep East and West than.
Also since your here, I'm thinking of dividing Silistria into two. One called Dobruja (or the Romanian or Bulgarian version of it) and the other called Silistria. What do you think of this? Also, how can you further divide Romania? I think Romania has too little provinces.
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I don't assume you know East or West in Ukrainian, as Ukrainian could also work for Severia. Although I bet that it is fairly similar.
Maybe i'll keep East and West than.
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Dividing Dobrudja is a very sensible thing to do, since it was divided for most of its history! Not sure why I've never seen that done in EU3 until now. The (transliterated) Bulgarian version of the name is identical to the English one -> Dobrudja. The Romanian name for it is Dobrogea. It seems like whenever a region of Romania does have a name in English, it's based on foreign names and not on Romanian ones, although it makes sense in this case since this region name is obviously of Slavic origin. But let's not go off-topic.
Anyway, I can't really see Romania on that map (I can just see the northernmost tip), so I'm not sure how you have it divided, and how far you want to go with the division. If you tell me in how many provinces you would like to have it split, I'll definitely think of something right away.
The historical regions are as follows:
Muntenia, Oltenia, Dobrogea (Wallachia)
Banat, Crisana, Maramures, Transylvania (Transylvania)
Moldova, Basarabia, Bugeac, Bucovina (Moldova)
But you can go much further with the divisions - it just depends on what you have in mind!
As for alternative names:
Dobrogea - Dobrudja - Dobruja
Basarabia - Bessarabia
Bugeac - Budjak
Bucovina - Bukovine - Bukovina
Transylvania - Transilvania - Siebenbürgen - Ardeal - Erdely
Here's a map of the regions that might help you:
Attention though, only half of the Banat and Maramures regions are included in that map. It's a map of the Romanian historical regions, as in - places where Romanians live. The Banat was traditionally a place of confluence of 3 cultures, Romanian, Serbian and Hungarian (in this order of size, the Romanian Banat made up about 55% of it, the Serbian part about 35% of it, and the Hungarian one about 10%), therefore the parts of the Banat where Serbians and Hungarians lived are not included as part of the region in that map. Also, disregard the little thing in the south-east called "Cadrilater" ("Quadrilateral" being the English name), it was just an anomaly of history and certainly doesn't deserve to be separated from the Bulgarian Silistra, as it has always been an integral part of it.
Hope this helps.
Anyway, I can't really see Romania on that map (I can just see the northernmost tip), so I'm not sure how you have it divided, and how far you want to go with the division. If you tell me in how many provinces you would like to have it split, I'll definitely think of something right away.
The historical regions are as follows:
Muntenia, Oltenia, Dobrogea (Wallachia)
Banat, Crisana, Maramures, Transylvania (Transylvania)
Moldova, Basarabia, Bugeac, Bucovina (Moldova)
But you can go much further with the divisions - it just depends on what you have in mind!
As for alternative names:
Dobrogea - Dobrudja - Dobruja
Basarabia - Bessarabia
Bugeac - Budjak
Bucovina - Bukovine - Bukovina
Transylvania - Transilvania - Siebenbürgen - Ardeal - Erdely
Here's a map of the regions that might help you:
Spoiler :
Attention though, only half of the Banat and Maramures regions are included in that map. It's a map of the Romanian historical regions, as in - places where Romanians live. The Banat was traditionally a place of confluence of 3 cultures, Romanian, Serbian and Hungarian (in this order of size, the Romanian Banat made up about 55% of it, the Serbian part about 35% of it, and the Hungarian one about 10%), therefore the parts of the Banat where Serbians and Hungarians lived are not included as part of the region in that map. Also, disregard the little thing in the south-east called "Cadrilater" ("Quadrilateral" being the English name), it was just an anomaly of history and certainly doesn't deserve to be separated from the Bulgarian Silistra, as it has always been an integral part of it.
Hope this helps.
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The states I have are as follows:
Wallachia
Oltenia
Bessarabia
Budjak
Maramures
Banat
And Silistria is one bulgarian province.
I'm planning on naming Romanian Silistria simply Silistria, and Bulgarian one Dobruja.
I have Szatmar and Szolnok as Hungarian provinces, but I will try to squeeze in Crisana.
I will try to squeeze Moldova in between Bessarabia and Transylvania.
I like the idea of Bukovina and will fit it in somehow.
Transylvania in game is portrayed with Hungarian culture. Is this correct in the 1400's? Also, is there any way you can split Transylvania?
But this looks promising, a 9-10 province Romania is what I am aiming for. (and I'm also creating a province called Odessa, which I have a feeling will be a target for any Romanian nation.)
I can give you a map of how Romania looks like currently for you to draw borders if you would like?
Wallachia
Oltenia
Bessarabia
Budjak
Maramures
Banat
And Silistria is one bulgarian province.
I'm planning on naming Romanian Silistria simply Silistria, and Bulgarian one Dobruja.
I have Szatmar and Szolnok as Hungarian provinces, but I will try to squeeze in Crisana.
I will try to squeeze Moldova in between Bessarabia and Transylvania.
I like the idea of Bukovina and will fit it in somehow.
Transylvania in game is portrayed with Hungarian culture. Is this correct in the 1400's? Also, is there any way you can split Transylvania?
But this looks promising, a 9-10 province Romania is what I am aiming for. (and I'm also creating a province called Odessa, which I have a feeling will be a target for any Romanian nation.
)I can give you a map of how Romania looks like currently for you to draw borders if you would like?
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