Alternate History NESes; Spout some ideas!

[Insane_Panda]

WE SHALL NEVER PART WITH THIS THREAD! NEVER!!

LET US FIGHT! LET US RESIST THE OPRESSORS!!!

*scatters*

 

[Kozmos]

Has anyone thought about starting a Front Mission NES with wanzers and year 2100?

 

[North King]

das, looks like the Habsburgs got uber big and then there was a communist revolution...

 

[Xen]

Well, India-Rome was important, but I am led to understand there was a maritime trade route as well. Not as convenient, though, but due to a SLIGHTLY poorer/weaker Parthia, it would make sense for Rome to conquer Mesopatamia and establish better trade with India.

indeed, when Trajan conqoured mesopotamia, from the very start thier was scurrying to make offical positions to manage imperial trade routes; though, it woudl be an interesting move to see Rome in Oman, and SOuther arabia, where thie ris arable, and fertile land, subjegateign the arab city states; they controlled the red sea access that was so valubel tot he Roman merchant sheep operating out of the old Hellenistic ports of Bernice, and Myos Hormus, on the red sea coast.

of cours,e fi any of that woudl ead to an empire shatterign civl war, i doubt; mor elikelly the provinces woudl rebell, and rome just woudlnt bother re-conqouring them

 

[blackheart]

indeed, when Trajan conqoured mesopotamia, from the very start thier was scurrying to make offical positions to manage imperial trade routes; though, it woudl be an interesting move to see Rome in Oman, and SOuther arabia, where thie ris arable, and fertile land, subjegateign the arab city states; they controlled the red sea access that was so valubel tot he Roman merchant sheep operating out of the old Hellenistic ports of Bernice, and Myos Hormus, on the red sea coast.

of cours,e fi any of that woudl ead to an empire shatterign civl war, i doubt; mor elikelly the provinces woudl rebell, and rome just woudlnt bother re-conqouring them

Xen, I've become amazed at myself that I am now able to understand most of what you post. It is like learning a whole new language

 

[das]

Ah! Lenin exports his communist ideals throughout Europe rather than in just Russia! Starting a massive Communist uprising...

Lenin barely had anything to do with it... He actually interferred in the process.

Erm...a random farmer dies in 650 bce prematurly and alters all of history.

Technically that's what happened in OTL.

He said Russian Empire, so the czar is still in control.

The tsar is not in control, he's in Britain.

Read again. No tsar is in control, ruled by admiral regent from Hungary.

...Hungary? No, I said that its LIKE in Hungary, i.e. its a monarchy with a regent who is an admiral. Just because he's a regent-admiral doesn't mean he's Horthy. Actually, he's Kolchak.

I must ask a question: WHy is the US of A a little more imperialistic ITTL? Grabbing land?

Read early 20th century US history. At that time they kept occupying small countries, making government changes that didn't seriously matter and withdrawing back from there. Mexico? Well, some borderline Mexican governors "asked" the USA to give them their protection after the civil war begun.

das, looks like the Habsburgs got uber big and then there was a communist revolution...

Why the Hapsburgs? Vienna WAS, in OTL, the cultural center of Europe pre-WWI. It was also the home and meeting place of many philosophers, anarchist bomb-throwers and socialist/communist revolutionaries. Only makes sense to make it a capital of an united communist Europe... Another two candidates were Paris and Zurich, but they decided Vienne would be better as it is generally seen as the "meeting place of Europes West and East".

 

[Kozmos]

Edit:Nevermind,error.

 

[Kozmos]

EDIT:There is no spoon.

 

[das]

-Federal Republic of Zaftra (ZAFTRA)
Formed by Russia, with larger borders in Asia and Middle East.Comprises the nations of Russia, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Ukraine, Lithuania and Easy Germany.Many have called it the "new Soviet Union".

On the map, it seems to only have Russia itself and parts of China.

Rather unrealistic, IMHO (especially the USN part), and its sci-fi, not alt-hist (thus there is a different thread for that).

 

[Kozmos]

Whops sorry for defiling your Alt-historic thread.Will remove it soon.

 

[blackheart]

Whops sorry for defiling your Alt-historic thread.Will remove it soon.

It's alt future

 

[Insane_Panda]

Instead of Lenin being the main proponent of the revolution, it is Trotsky. He ultimately fails in Russia and instead exports his ideas into Europe and eventually forges the Socialist European nation?

edit: Perhaps France turns communist first, and then UK and Germany procede to divide up Frances colonial empire, then, germany is overwhelmed by the Communists and its government flees into west Africa, while French nationalists flee to Algiers?

Meanwhile, Japan takes the French colonies of Indochine in the chaos.

 

[das]

Instead of Lenin being the main proponent of the revolution, it is Trotsky. He ultimately fails in Russia and instead exports his ideas into Europe and eventually forges the Socialist European nation?

Well, Trotsky played a large part, but a large hint here - there are such communists that are NOT Russian.

Perhaps France turns communist first, and then UK and Germany procede to divide up Frances colonial empire, then, germany is overwhelmed by the Communists and its government flees into west Africa, while French nationalists flee to Algiers?

Well... France DOES turn communist first, but Germany is in no position to grab French colonies as nobody cancelled the WWI... The French government flees Algiers-wards, the colonial empire is in chaos (French West Africa is ran by a local governor who made a bid for power). Then the revolution spread across the trenches into Germany and beyond, being stopped only in Russia where the Triumvirate (Kornilov, Wrangel and ofcourse Kolchak, who incidentally was an arctic explorer as well as an admiral and as such had polar bear backing for a later coup to make himself the sole ruler) took control, ceding only some provinces to get regroupping time.

BUT, why did the Umptieth French Revolution take place?

 

[erez87]

THIS IS NOT GUSS THE POD. Just what if I made, what if Napoleon won (and many other things were diffrent in this...)

 

[das]

Not bad, but I'm curious about Gran Columbia (HOW THE HELL DID IT HOLD ON TO SO MUCH, more specifically) and Poland (see Gran Columbia).

 

[erez87]

Ok
All in all it's Napoleon victory. Now to diffrences.

Ottomans were allied to Napoleon agaisnt Austria and later Russia, so was Persia. With more allies Napoleon won agaisnt Russia and created a huge Poland that ruled his eastern lands and was allied to him.
With enough power against Russia Napoleon also won in Spain, annexing the mainland. USA conquered most of Canada and northern Mexico. Mexico, loosign lands, went south to those Spanish lands until stopped by French troops in Panama.
It's not a Culombia. It's the Holy Christian Empire. It's ruler is the pope that left Rome, moved to Spain, and than had to leave that to, he left to the Spanish colonies (Spain was always a great catholic country) In there is was accepted by everyone and ruled a new Vatican, this time with possibilites of expansion...
Ally of Frane as well China is right now the fastest growing and second strongest country... Korea, Japan and SOuth Eastern Asian vassaldom (dark green) are their vassals... France doesn't like that (You know all the revolution stuff are back, with Democrazy...)

 

[Kozmos]

There its all gone now,well I hope you are happy now you ruined my dream of NES with mechs

 

[das]

MUWHAHAHAHA!

Btw, come on, people, my PoD shouldn't be very hard now...

 

[Constantine]

@ French troops munitnyed in OTL did Was the French government unable to deal with and commies seized control?

 

[WarlordMatt]

I just had an interesting idea. What if Hitler was indeed accepted into the Academy of Arts in 1907? He may as well go on to be an artist, and never run out of money and move to Munich. Perhaps he never even develops strong anti-Semite beliefs. Result? No rise to power, no WWII. Germany continues to abide by the Versailles treaty into the 1930's, and the NES would start around 1935. However, this is all assuming that no one else takes the same path as Hitler, and Germany remains bound by Versailles.

Was an althist like this done before?
Also, any big flaws in it? This is my first attempt at an althist.