Am I the only one missing Sweden as a Civ?

Would you like to see Sweden as a Civ?

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I see... Is it much different from the way Norway and Denmark do politics?
 
Ok, Sweden is great and all, but they're already represented by the Vikings. Why don't we have Ukraine? Cause it's already represented by Russia. I'm tired of all these "boo-hoo my heritage isn't represented specificly enough in this game" posts. I'm Irish... but I'm not going to cry forever that Ireland has to be represented by the English civ. Though a Pub for a UU would be kinda sweet...

Apologies to the OP if this seems really mean, I think it's just pent-up rage from all the stupid "Where's Poland?" threads.
 
skallben said:
"Key country" is a slight exaggeration but given that we are only 9 millions we certainly have more impact than one would expect. We have made the EU progress quite a bit in enviromental issues and we've allways been trying to help poor countries as far as our tiny budget allows us. Slightly different social/political model also. Quite a bit less authoritharian/right wingish that the most western countries today. Even our rightwing party is quite "light-blue" so to speak. Yes, it works - we have been one of the richest and most socially developed countries in the world a looong time. Also, we are innovators in techincal/medicine areas and has been for a long time. And we give you the Nobel Prize!
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We're talking Civilization here, capital C, the big cool ones we all know. For sure, the peg has been lowered when it is argued that a nation ought to be in because it's doing it's best to help the poor on a tight budget and overall doing quite allright ;)
 
Ethric said:
For sure, the peg has been lowered when it is argued that a nation ought to be in because it's doing it's best to help the poor on a tight budget and overall doing quite allright ;)
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Great way to put it, had me laughing for a bit for the "overall doing quite allright" thing :)
 
I'd like to see sweeden. They played an important part in european history. There is enough of an argument going on to involve Poland... Sweeden should get in before Poland, they played a much larger part
 
Sweden's part of the Vikings. They're already in.
 
BENdage said:
I'd like to see sweeden. They played an important part in european history. There is enough of an argument going on to involve Poland... Sweeden should get in before Poland, they played a much larger part
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Well that settles it for this thread then :crazyeye:
 
Monkeyfinger said:
Go die for bumping another one of these stupid threads filled with nationalistic retards. This was 2 months old and you revived its stinking, maggot ridden corpse.
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Oh, really, I revived this? I'm a nationalistic ******?
Screw you, Monkeyfinger! Why don't you just go die!: :aargh:
Nobody has to listen to your crap!

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Why not Iceland? We wrote many books and were the first Europeans to discover Greenland and America.

I know why.
Because there have been loads of other bigger nations and we are already represented by the Vikings which is good enough for me and should also be good enough for my fellow Scandinavians.

Reykjavík is even in the game.
 
They've got to have a leader. That's the problem with modren nation Civs. They haven't had time to get a good leader.
 
I know about Sweden, but I voted "whats Sweden" just because it made me laugh out loud.

If they put in Sweden, we also need Finland.

SkippyT said:
Wrong!
I don't want Sweden because I believe Denmark was greater! AND I think a single Scandinavian civilization would be much wiser.
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Only if we have Hamlet as a leader.
 
Ormur said:
Why not Iceland? We wrote many books and were the first Europeans to discover Greenland and America.

I know why.
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Iceland is much better represented by the viking civ than Sweden because it was settled by vikings mostly and it was them who discovered America and wrote the only icelandic books I know of. It's not really a fair comparison, Sweden has done allright independent of the viking age.
 
hoopsnerd said:
I'm Irish... but I'm not going to cry forever that Ireland has to be represented by the English civ. Though a Pub for a UU would be kinda sweet....
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:confused: I think the Celts were included specifically to seel copies in Ireland, Wales and Scotland, I know theyre arent exactly Irish Scottish or Welsh but I consider the Celts a hell of a lot more representative of us than England
 
Yes. Sweden shold be in the game. The Vikings do not represent Sweden, because only 4 of the cities are swedish.
And the Vikings where never a civilization, it was denmark, norway and sweden. # different civs who where called the vikings in a specific time.
I think the viking civ should go, and instead there should be denmark and sweden as 2 new civs.
 
rename vikings to scandinavia
rename berserker to viking
problem solved

and no Sweden shoudn't be in.
btw this thread is stupid, and I bumped it arrrgh!!
 
First of all, sry for going OT... Answers in Bold

Drezn said:
Awesome, someone with historical knowledge :)

Hehe :goodjob:

I don't think I understand this... Denmark being big in the viking era doesn't make it not a danish superpower does it?

Yes, Denmark was a superpower in the Viking era, but the problem is, the Vikings are already in... Which is also the problem if anyone was to include Denmark, our age of prime is closely related to the Viking era (with 400 years afterwards, but still). Sweden represents a 'Renaisscence superpower' which we need a bit of in Civ IMHO. The renaisscence is the only era now which needs more units.

Are you sure about this? There was a large battle in 1801 which Denmark lost due to the paper thing you mention, but the second battle in 1807 when Denmark was bombed with incendiary bombs is the one where our fleet was taken. Or perhaps that happened in both battles? At least that's what I can get out of a quick wikipedia read...

Our fleet surrendered first, but it was ceded after the bombing of Copenhagen as you say, sorry if I wrote otherwise.

Also, we may be getting too far off track here for this not to start looking like a hijack ;)

I feel the same way. Sorry everyone!
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Ethric said:
The Viking civ cover the scandinavian countries well, I think. That's when they were cool and noteworthy. Can't see that any of them deserves to be in on their own, unless we're looking at a 4th expansion and grasping for any nation that's done allright but nothing much more.

As for that map of Denmark, having control of relatively large bits of land at one point doesn't really seem enough.

The areas that Denmark controlled is not important in that century.. Denmark was never a really productive country but rather a nation with a very powerful trade system (Look at the taxations we did in the Baltic, we controlled trade entering Russia, Poland and the Teutonic Order, and on the 1800 century map, can you see the tiny green spot in West Africa, the Caribbean and back to Denmark? We developed an effecient trade route there, trading [insert Danish something something here] for slaves in Africa, then took slaves into the Caribbean, and Sugar back to Denmark. However, I think we lost the trading posts to England with our fleet, and the Carribean Islands were sold to the United States.)
However, in the Kalmar Union, Denmark ruled the north in Europe. And that WAS important, even though the northern provinces were very poor. The Kalmar Union was a political entity and a superpower back then... Damn you Swedes for leaving us... :p :joke:
Omg a long OT. Sorry!! xD
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I still think Sweden should be in - if Firaxis made a third Xpack.










..................With Poland. :p
 
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