American Accent

Originally posted by Azale
I interpreted that as an insult, the smilies dont fool me! :p
damn.
Azale has seen through my cunning ruse :)


I live in the most southern accent saturated place in Texas, which is saying something, and for some reason its only about 1 in 10 or so people that have that stereotypical "twang" to thier voice.

Seriously, I could pass for a Midwesterner or perhaps squeak through as Californian.
but you couldn't fool an outsider into thinking you were anything but american :) some accents can be confused with canadians (only some), the rest are obviously american :)
 
I've read that the English accent has actually changed more in the last 200 years than the American one. I'll look for the source if anyone's interested.
 
Originally posted by Yoshimune


Are you saying that nobody in Scotland (more specifically: Edinburgh, University of) speaks with an English accent? Or are you just exaggerating to disprove a moot point I couldn't easily prove in the first place?

I wonder why someone from the countries in question didn't correct me?

Sheesh. I'll refrain from generalizing about Scotland and England in the future. :rolleyes:

If you here anyone in Scotland speaking with an English accent, then it means they are almost certainly English. I study at Edinburgh, and in the Arts and Sciences, English students make up a larger minority than Scots students. The only reason Edinburgh Uni can boast 50% Scots students, is because of the Law faculty, part-timers and postgraduates, who are preodominantly Scottish. You'll meet fewer Scottish undergrads; sometimes, one can go for days without hearing a Scottish accent - no kidding!
 
Originally posted by sysyphus
The key thing to remeber is that accents change over time. The British accent at the time of the settlement of the present day USA was quite different from the British accent of today.

From what I understand, in those days the British accent was somewhat more like the present day US accent. As the US was settled, the accent there evolved one way and the accent in Britain evolved another way.


British accent. Bah! :p

No such thing. Scots accents have more in common with Irish and some north American accents than they do with most English accents. The accents of southern England have much more in common with Australian accents, than they do with Scottish ones. If you can't tell the difference, it's because cultural preconceptions are confusing you, not because of actual similarity. ;)
 
I love the British accent. Especially those whispery, sexy sounding news readers on the BBC. I could listen to those broads reading aloud from a phonebook all day long.
 
Originally posted by Dumb pothead
I love the British accent. Especially those whispery, sexy sounding news readers on the BBC. I could listen to those broads reading aloud from a phonebook all day long.

"You're watching BBC Wuhlrd"
 
The BBC WALD service on the radio. I watch BBC news on BBC America too. Mishal Hussein is hot as hell. I can barely pay attention to what she's saying half the time because I keep picturing her walking around in lingerie.
 
double post. plese delete.
 
does Ghetto count as a dialect?

also, do us Califronians say words like "like" or "totally" more than other people. i knew this English girl a year ago and she said "like" less than me and my friends.

Californian accent:

Jim: "Do you like wanna go to the movie?"
Marry: "Yeah, I like totally want to!"

cheerleaders do this more than other people.
 
Originally posted by sims2789
does Ghetto count as a dialect?

also, do us Califronians say words like "like" or "totally" more than other people. i knew this English girl a year ago and she said "like" less than me and my friends.

Californian accent:

Jim: "Do you like wanna go to the movie?"
Marry: "Yeah, I like totally want to!"

cheerleaders do this more than other people.

There's a kid from California in my Japanese class who uses "like" when he's speaking in Japanese. It's really hard for me to keep from laughing at him.
 
Originally posted by lord42
Well I'm from pennsylvania and as a residet have no clue about my accent. Anyone have any observations on a PA accent?
Oh and i can fairly fake a brtish accent myself. It's pretty easy as it mainly revolves around useing the proper wording and stressing I and E.

My grandparents lived in Pittsburgh for the fist 30+ years of their lives and they still have a bit of the Pittsburgh "twang." It's hard to explain, but people who've heard it know what I mean. Listen to somebody from Pittsburgh say the words with hard vowels, like "tire." The twang almost sounds like a variation of the Chigagoan accent.
 
Originally posted by Stapel
The spread of accents can be very rapid. In my tiny home country of the Nethelands (150 by 200 miles), we have many different accents. The Hague, Amsterdam, Utrecht and Rotterdam accents are very easy to recognize. And very different! the maximum distance from one to another is 50 miles......

People in Friesland or Limburg simply can not be understood.....

And the minimum distance in Italy is 15 km!!
 
Originally posted by CivCube
When the United States was formed, the new citizens definitely had English accents. However, by the mid-1800s the American accent had already emerged. I'm curious; just when did the latter emerge?

This has probably been addressed, but oh well. When the US was formed, the citizens didn't have English accents, well they did, but not what you're thinking. There was the New England accents and the Southern accent, they existed, but along with American nationalism came a new American vocaulary, spellilng, and accent. The accent had been drifting farther and farther from English since about 1700.
 
thestonesfan said:
Hey! The Midwestern dialect isn't annoying! :)

Actually, people who go to school for public speaking, such as radio people, learn Midwestern speak. I guess it's the most 'neutral'.


Broadcasting we often joked about how our professors always wanted us to speak the queens own English with a typical brit accent – if you have ever heard the CBC Radio you know what I mean.

Thogh TV stations such as CTV and Global seem to copy the northern US accent. – Peter Masbrige on the CBC does this too - though most of Toronto does so it creates a kind of Toronto accent. Though in reality its more word choice than anything else.


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Originally posted by Yoshimune
I probably also couldn't tell the difference between an English accent and an Australian accent if you brought two people up to me and made me guess.

A lot of people can’t I one mistook an austiraln with a weak accent for a brit or a British Colombian. – I’m told some of them have a bit of a British accent Thogh later I was talking to a serever in a coffeshop who said I’d never guess her accent. – oddly enough I got it right. Most people asumed she was from the UK not Australia.


sysyphus said:
The key thing to remeber is that accents change over time. The British accent at the time of the settlement of the present day USA was quite different from the British accent of today.
From what I understand, in those days the British accent was somewhat more like the present day US accent. As the US was settled, the accent there evolved one way and the accent in Britain evolved another way.

My theory is that the people who would become Americans were from the middle and lower classes and as such didn’t speak the queens own English. After the war they were isolated and a new accent took root.

Benderino said:
This has probably been addressed, but oh well. When the US was formed, the citizens didn't have English accents, well they did, but not what you're thinking. There was the New England accents and the Southern accent, they existed, but along with American nationalism came a new American vocabulary, spelling, and accent. The accent had been drifting farther and farther from English since about 1700.

What’s funny is an old Encyclopedia circa 1950 has different sections for English and (American) English. The article says that on the whole American English is different in a number of was since the US often adopts words from other languages, compounds many words and changes the meaning of words.

This says nothing about spelling but that’s already been covered.

A guide to American precondition of English
Word what is sounds like
Creek crik
Roof ruff
Four four - say the word at about half speed.

There are other examples but that’s all I can think of.
Generally speaking I can understand anyone speaking English if the words and grammar are correct. I can hear past even the strongest accents. – I credit 3 years of living in the US back when I was a child for this. What’s interesting is when I came back to Canada I sounded like an American to my relatives.

Subsequent recearch says people get their accent when they learn to speak from age 2-7. Therefoe explaning why even if you move to a place with a difent accent you will still sound like where you were born.

2 stories
1. While in the US my father was talking to someone who said gee you sould just like an american! You don’t have an accent.

2. Once while driving to Flordia we sopped in North carolia not far from the boarder with south carolina and the watress upon hearing we were from up north thought we were from the northern US.
 
MajorGeneral2 said:
As a Dallas resident, I can say that most Texans aren't Texans in this respect. :) Most Texas stereotypes are, of course, false.

Each region has its own accent, depending on what sort of people lived/immigrated there over the years.

On a similar note, I'd like to point out that 90% of Minnesotans and North Dakotans, other than the propensity to say the word youbetcha more often than others (because lets face it, Youbetcha is a sweet word), lack the upper great plains accent made famous in the movie Fargo and posses the flat accent found in Colorado, California, Washington, ect. I do work with a women with that accent though and I will back up the fact that it is anoying and sadly makes her sound less intelegent than she is.
 
Speaking of English accents, this is slightly off topic, but I'll share it nonetheless.

Last night, I was watching British Parliament on C-SPAN. Several MPs from Scotland and Ireland got up to speak, and I could not understand a single word coming out of their mouth. My respect for Tony Blair just about trippled, as he seemed to get the gist of it; its incredible that there is such a difference in the way English is spoken over such a small area as Britain. The various American accents don't even come close.
 
Strangely enough, I watched that as well. Aside from the accent what really freaked me out was the way they "yead" (for lack of a better word)... it sounded like homosexual wookies making love. :eek:
 
The various American accents don't even come close

Try listening to thick Virginian accents (dying out but still spoken by some old timers) and tell me if you can understand one word they say. :)
 
I can really recommend Bill Bryson's book 'Made in America' :)

fun to read and it clears up a lot of things along the way, like the BS about Plymouth Rock, the Liberty Bell, why July 4th is a 'wrong' date after all etc....
 
I'd say one aspect of American Accent is the constant fillers. The "like"s, the "you know"s, the "um"s. I don't know if other countries' speakers have youths who constantly use fillers because their minds are too slow to actually think of what they are going to say and then say it. But I know Americans do.
 
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