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Feistus Raclettus
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Americans-Find the sex offender in YOUR Neighborhood
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Panda
Metal head
Sites like this shouldn't exist, they merely encourage vigilantism.
If these animals are likely to re-offend, they shouldn't be let out of prison. If that isn't the case, the sentence they served means they have 'payed their debt to society' and they should be allowed a fresh start.
Of course, we wouldn't have this problem if we would make more use of the death penalty and / or castration.
If these animals are likely to re-offend, they shouldn't be let out of prison. If that isn't the case, the sentence they served means they have 'payed their debt to society' and they should be allowed a fresh start.
Of course, we wouldn't have this problem if we would make more use of the death penalty and / or castration.
Tank_Guy#3
Lion of Lehistan
There is one within 30 miles of my house, in a town where I used to live.
Wonder how long before this is closed?
Wonder how long before this is closed?
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
Tank_Guy#3 said:
Sex offenders residences have to be publically published in many states. I see nothing wrong with that.
Bluemofia
F=ma
That site seems a bit unreliable, as I have seen ads for it. As in, ads that advertise you to go to that site.
The terms of service also doesn't claim it is reliable.
The terms of service also doesn't claim it is reliable.
EolTheDarkElf
Suspended animation
The main purpose of such sites must be people having something to talk about when they are bored at work (or on an online forum)... AKA chatting, gossip.
"Oh, and you know Susan, yesterday we logged on to t3h Internets and we browsed for t3h sex offenders, we found 213, can you believe it Susan? 213! I believe they all should be shot.... blah blah blah"
There is no practical use for this knowledge unless you plan to force your child to memorize 213 faces. I hope you don't.... but even if, is that so hard for a sex offender to drive 50 miles to kidnap your child?
No, actually I lied. The main purpose of such sites is making money:
Peace of mind indeed..... Maybe a piece of mind is indeed what you are missing if you subscribe to that
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"Oh, and you know Susan, yesterday we logged on to t3h Internets and we browsed for t3h sex offenders, we found 213, can you believe it Susan? 213! I believe they all should be shot.... blah blah blah"
There is no practical use for this knowledge unless you plan to force your child to memorize 213 faces. I hope you don't.... but even if, is that so hard for a sex offender to drive 50 miles to kidnap your child?
No, actually I lied. The main purpose of such sites is making money:
Peace of mind indeed..... Maybe a piece of mind is indeed what you are missing if you subscribe to that
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MobBoss said:
agreed but I don't think having this sort of material freely available will encourage anything but vigilantism as the others said. If you want to know as a concerned parent you should be able to apply to your local government to be informed, not have some web site broadcasting the locations and encouraging hate crimes, whether you think they might be justified or not. As an area near me was accused of housing paedophiles and their locations were revealed in a national paper, people organised small protests against the level of paedophiles in this area result was that a Paediatrician had his house smashed up and a few innocent people who lived in houses that used to be occupied by said people were beaten up? Is it really necessary to encourage vigilantism?
azzaman333
meh
Why does the public need to know where sex offenders live?
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
Sidhe said:
Awareness does not equate to vigilantism.
How does the website encourage hate crimes? Does it say go burn these guys out? No. It gives information, nothing more. What does the local government do? Gives the same type of information. Does the local government in turn encourage hate crime? No. Your allegation that the website encourages hate crime is unfounded.
Quite simply, if someone has their house smashed up or or beaten call the cops. Arrest them or sue them and they will stop. Criminal behavior is still criminal no matter who performs it. But the public still has a right to know if a sexual predator is living in their neighborhood.
I simply refuse to have sympathy for someone who would rape a child. If you cant deal with being a social outcast for the rest of your life then dont do it.
MobBoss said:
I think your missing the point any web site that gives away the location of these people as happened in my country will encourage hate crimes, and this will lead to innocent people getting beaten up mugged and there houses smashed up, I dont disagree that the information should be available, but it should be available on request to your local officials, not spread across the net and freely available to any old tom dick or harry.
A very valuable lesson was learned in this country about the sexual offenders register being available to the public, I would not like to see this say plastered in the papers or on the net for the very reason that innocent people get unfairly treated. I mean some people obviously aren't bright enough to know the difference between a peadiatrician and a peadophile.
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
Sidhe said:
Meh...I would counter by saying that people who rape children encourage hate against them.
Uhm...whats the difference? Before it was linked in this forum, none of us knew of this website, so its not like its a popular one. To my knowledge all it does is take publicly disclosed information and packages it. Where I live it is the law that such information be public and rightfully so. We dont have problems with vigilatism here. But then again, the US does have a lower violent crime rate...
You see, all you are doing is putting the welfare of convicted sex offenders above the welfare of families with kids. To me this is wrong. I refuse to feel sorry for anthing such sex offenders go through as it will never equal the horror and pain that they have inflicted upon defenseless children. I dont endorse violence or vigilantism, but the fear of that is hardly a reason to not have this type of information publically disclosed.
Sidhe said:
You are, I think, using an unconventional definition of 'hate crimes'.
But anyway, what is the redecidivism rate for sex offenders, specifically convicted rapists and convicted child molesters? This chart is interesting (from http://www.csom.org/pubs/recidsexof.html):
I'm on the fence regarding websites like these.
MobBoss said:Meh...I would counter by saying that people who rape children encourage hate against them.
Uhm...whats the difference? Before it was linked in this forum, none of us knew of this website, so its not like its a popular one. To my knowledge all it does is take publicly disclosed information and packages it. Where I live it is the law that such information be public and rightfully so. We dont have problems with vigilatism here. But then again, the US does have a lower violent crime rate...
Oh and our violent crime rate increasing is being attributed in large part to the glorification and sensationalism of american gun culture, so cheers for that as well, people are getting guns to appear like gangsta(no matter how ******** that is)
You see, all you are doing is putting the welfare of convicted sex offenders above the welfare of families with kids. To me this is wrong. I refuse to feel sorry for anthing such sex offenders go through as it will never equal the horror and pain that they have inflicted upon defenseless children. I dont endorse violence or vigilantism, but the fear of that is hardly a reason to not have this type of information publically disclosed.
I'm sorry you still have access to the register under my proposition it just isn't plastered across the tabloids or internet? I'm really not sure where you are coming from now. So any familly has acces to this information should they request it from local government and this equates to endangering famillies how?
You are 100 times more likely to be killed or injured by a gun or GSW(Gun Shot Wound) in your country than in mine to be honest I would rather live here? I work in a hospital where I have regular access and I have never seen a GSW, and I would suspect I never will, how many hospital workers could say that about your country? Na mate you can keep your less violent crime statistic, and I'll keep my not ever seeing a gun much less someone get shot statisitc
And the influence of gangster and gun culture from America has seen gun crime starting to rise in England too, so thanks for that one too.
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
Sidhe said:
Even if it is "plastered across the internet" as you put it, the information doesnt come to you, you go to it. No one is forcing this data upon the public. It doesnt magically appear on your favorites. So your argument is moot.
You are 100 times more likely to be killed or injured by a gun or GSW(Gun Shot Wound) in your country than in mine to be honest I would rather live here? I work in a hospital where I have regular access and I have never seen a GSW, and I would suspect I never will, how many hospital workers could say that about your country? Na mate you can keep your less violent crime statistic, and I'll keep my not ever seeing a gun much less someone get shot statisitc
So I see you think having a higher chance of getting beaten to death or stabbed is preferable to being shot? Ok.
Bugfatty300
Buddha Squirrel
Sidhe said:
Another typical case of blame America first syndrom.
You wouldn't have any evidence to back up that statement by any chance?
As if the UK never had a violent gang culture who never used guns until a few years ago when they saw Americans use them on TV.
I might as well blame you guys for the rising rate of knife homicides.
MobBoss said:Even if it is "plastered across the internet" as you put it, the information doesnt come to you, you go to it. No one is forcing this data upon the public. It doesnt magically appear on your favorites. So your argument is moot.
So I see you think having a higher chance of getting beaten to death or stabbed is preferable to being shot? Ok.
The point is I'm more likely to die if I live in American by violent means than if I live in England. Your mortality from violent crime is far higher than ours so frankly I'd rather live here.
Bugfatty300 said:Another typical case of blame America first syndrom.
You wouldn't have any evidence to back up that statement by any chance?
As if the UK never had a violent gang culture who never used guns until a few years ago when they saw Americans use them on TV.
I might as well blame you guys for the rising rate of knife homicides.
Well there is an opinion that gangsta rap and various other things have lead to an explosion of gun use in black communities in the UK I couldn't say that it's because of the AMerican influence for sure, but it is certainly an idea that is very prevalent and widespread in the media.
Since it's not backed up by scientific study though I withdraw the accusation and apologise, however I would be surprised if increased gun use, which I've seen alot of papers not just UK papers blaming on americas exported gun culture, wasn't in some way linked.
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
Sidhe said:
If the reason you prefer to live in England is because of mortality from violent crime, then I humbly submit that you need therapy as your paranoia is excessive.
Sidhe said:
Am I allowed to blame the UK for the rising spread of public-monitoring cameras that seems to have cropped up over here?
And are we all committing second-degree threadjacking here?
