How touching, that you continously label me an extremist.
You labeled yourself an extremist. I just quote you.
What are you going to do Pat? Use me as some sort of "case study" into the evils of the pro-choice side and label me an extremist,
You are pro choice, you are an extremist, and you are participating in the discussion. Is there a reason I should not address you and your positions for what they are?
all the whole proclaiming how you are "pro-choice" appart from when you feel that I, and I alone, have pushed to completely deny all abortion for women.
1.) I didn't proclaim anything, you called me pro life and I corrected you.
2.) When fighting against people like you who hold such extreme positions you force others to be odd bed fellows. You make the relative gulf between some smaller as you increase the chasm between you and all of us.
Just think about this; because of my posistion you would be more than happy to deny abortions to rape victims, victims of incest, women who need abortions for health reasons, etc.
Who said anything about banning abortions for health reasons?
And as horrible as all of those first two are, none of them are as horrible as murdering innocent children for convienience. There is a reason murder is a more heinous crime than rape of sexual abuse in the rest of the legal sphere useless, and thats why your above tack does and always will fail.
I don't think people understand my position on this issue; I am not for legislating and forcing my morality and opinions on others in this regard; I don't believe gay marriage ceremonies should be held in churches that don't want to do them, I don't believe women should be restricted abortions if they have made a choice and a desire to have one. If on the other hand, they don't want one, I am fine with that as well.
But you do believe in stripping human beings of their rights and murdering them for convienience. If that is not legislating morality I don't know what is.
You are not the first person to attempt this line of acting useless, many have done so before. The results are never good.
Tell us a again about the qualitative difference between a child T-minus 2 weeks and T-plus 1 second from birth. Explain to us what that earth shattering difference is that leads you to support unfettered killing of one but not the other.
I am not for the "murder of children" as Pat would have you believe, I just believe that my opinions on the matter shouldn't result in a woman changing her actions because of my views on the matter, especially when it comes to bodily autonomy.
Why are you restricting my freedom and legislating morality by restriting killing after birth. How dare you force me to change my actions because of your views!
Tell us more about how you desire for all rape victims and victims of incest to be denied abortion, because you personally find the issue to be "icky".
Is that how you normally describe murdering children for convienience? "icky?"
Uh no? Don't you understand that you are punishing women for being raped, by forcing them to give birth because you find the issue to be abhorrent? You're literally saying to the victims that they should suck it up and give birth.
And your solution is to compound the misery of one of the victims by simultaneously inflicting the most capital of crimes upon them? Sounds like a gangbusters trade off there, I hope you don't buy cars by yourself.
Don't you understand you are punishing the child for being the product of rape, and murdering them because you find the issue adhorrent. You are literally saying that innocent children should suck it up and accept death.
