Analysis of Romney's defeat

[AlpsStranger]

I think trying to restrict suffrage will be the next GOP strategy.

They won't do anything so blatant as "white Christian males only," but they'll find a sly way to pitch it.

Property owners, net income taxpayers, something like that. Won't work, of course, and will bury them even deeper in the mud.

 

[GhostWriter16]

Texas is still looking pretty far away right now.

Things may well be bad for the GOP right now, however. I wouldn't be surprised.

But I think they'll (Perhaps unfortunately) win in '16.

 

[AlpsStranger]

Too far ahead to tell about 2016, truth be told.

I'm convinced the GOP will run a crazy person who most people can't vote for, like Santorum or Bachmann. Not because they want to but because the GOP primary is slowly strangling the party to death.

The GOP has too many battles now, too many things it's trying to "fix." It's trying to rollback the sexual revolution. It's trying to roll back religious liberalism. It's trying to roll back "scientism." It's trying to roll back environmentalism. It's base is still vaguely uncomfortable with ubiquitous communications technology. They don't understand that conservatism is actually structurally stifled by the modern world. "Like the 1950s, but with internet access" doesn't make sense. How does one maintain a highly starched, strict set of cultural values when your children can talk to people from half way around the world in their own bedrooms?

The ideological uniformity they dream of is physically impossible. They can't strangle the discourse like they could in the past. Your children will be exposed to people with different religions and different worldviews, unless you chain them up in the basement. It's over, Rock. Libertarianism is the new conservatism, and they'll continue to bleed for their lost theocratic dream until they accept that.

 

[classical_hero]

And since you appear to have done it approximately 30 years before he first entered office, that's impressive foresight, sir!

I am a prophet since I knew what America was going to be like and thus forced my whole family before I was even born to make sure they were here. I am that good.

And this is worse than the WTC attacks why?

Also, citations needed.

The problem I have is that anyone would have seen what was coming with the attacks in Libya. That wasn't as clear for the attacks in NYC and the pentagon. What should have happened in Libya was extra forces sent or the team never sent to Benghazi. It was simply n attack waiting to happen. We weren't prepared for the original 9/11 but after that there should have been no excuse for not being prepared, which is what happened in Benghazi, that the US weren't prepared enough for what might happen.

 

[Camikaze]

I am a prophet since I knew what America was going to be like and thus forced my whole family before I was even born to make sure they were here. I am that good.

We weren't prepared

'We' may give rise to confusion. Who is the 'we' you are referring to?

 

[Dachs]

Libertarianism is the new conservatism, and they'll continue to bleed for their lost theocratic dream until they accept that.

So the solution to the Republican Party's supposedly outmoded worldview is to replace it with one that is two centuries older? It may not be 1950 anymore, but it sure as hell isn't 1750 either.

 

[JollyRoger]

Romney lost because the voting was skewed. We need to institute one acre, one vote or allow corporations to vote on behalf of their employees.

 

[AlpsStranger]

So the solution to the Republican Party's supposedly outmoded worldview is to replace it with one that is two centuries older? It may not be 1950 anymore, but it sure as hell isn't 1750 either.

It may technically be older, but I think it has a better shot.

OTOH I'm on team Blue in the culture wars so my bias may be the issue.

 

[holy king]

Is there anything worse than letting our own flesh and blood die, on the basis of practicality?

they were family?

 

[Cutlass]

I think trying to restrict suffrage will be the next GOP strategy.

They won't do anything so blatant as "white Christian males only," but they'll find a sly way to pitch it.

Property owners, net income taxpayers, something like that. Won't work, of course, and will bury them even deeper in the mud.

where have you been? That was the theme of this election.

 

[Arwon]

Is this election (well the last one too) a realignment of some sort?

 

[kochman]

What's also interesting about this election is Repubs only faired well in one area... The House. After the last election, congressional district lines were redrawn, and in a way favorable to the Repubs who won heavily in 2010.

They lost ground in the Senate... and Romney lost, despite Obama getting millions less votes than 2008.

 

[Camikaze]

Republicans lost the popular vote in the House, so gerrymandering might be papering over the cracks a little. It'd be dangerous for the Republicans to look at their House majority and say everything's fine.

 

[Leoreth]

We learn that the good thing about the EC is that you can't gerrymander state borders.

 

[Arwon]

What's also interesting about this election is Repubs only faired well in one area... The House. After the last election, congressional district lines were redrawn, and in a way favorable to the Repubs who won heavily in 2010.

They lost ground in the Senate... and Romney lost, despite Obama getting millions less votes than 2008.

Turnout doesn't seem to have been that much lower than in 08? Remember they are still counting. Sandy would have been an impact too...

 

[hobbsyoyo]

The problem I have is that anyone would have seen what was coming with the attacks in Libya. That wasn't as clear for the attacks in NYC and the pentagon. What should have happened in Libya was extra forces sent or the team never sent to Benghazi. It was simply n attack waiting to happen. We weren't prepared for the original 9/11 but after that there should have been no excuse for not being prepared, which is what happened in Benghazi, that the US weren't prepared enough for what might happen.

By this logic, after the attack on the USS Cole, the embassy bombings and the original WTC basement bombing, we should have been prepared for 9/11/2001 (oh and then there's those pesky intelligence reports saying OBL was prepared to attack). How quickly the right forgets - it's almost as fast as they rush to judgement.

What's also interesting about this election is Repubs only faired well in one area... The House. After the last election, congressional district lines were redrawn, and in a way favorable to the Repubs who won heavily in 2010.

They lost ground in the Senate... and Romney lost, despite Obama getting millions less votes than 2008.

They lost ground in the House too, but maitained their majority.

 

[Cutlass]

Is this election (well the last one too) a realignment of some sort?

I think calling it that would be premature. As I always say, never underestimate the power of the Democrats to blow an election. The Democrats still need to articulate an actual vision of their program other than "we aren't quite as bad as the other guys." Until they do that they risk losing all their gains to the first articulate and charismatic Republican that comes along.

 

[kochman]

They lost ground in the House too, but maitained their majority.

I think it stayed the same, actually, but I'm not sure it is 100% decided yet, with the close races where some results aren't finalized.

 

[say1988]

I think it stayed the same, actually, but I'm not sure it is 100% decided yet, with the close races where some results aren't finalized.

According to the NYT, Democrats have secured the same amount of seats as they had in 2010 (193), with 9 still undecided. Of those 9, Democrats are leading in 7. Fox news also shows 193 Democrats, but 10 undecided. NBC has 195 Democrat and 7 undecideds.

The Republicans are losing seats in the House, just how many isn't certain yet. If not for them redrawing districts they likely would have lost far more seats, though.

 

[EnglishEdward]

All things considered I think that Romney did quite
well to get as large a share of the vote as he did.


Romney clearly won the white american men vote.


I.e. they'd rather have a representative for the Koch
brothers and tax dodging 1% elite who will tax them all
for wars, but deny them welfare than that other guy
who will tax the 1% elite and provide welfare.

I'd have thought by now that they'd have seen through
that everyone can be a billionnaire fantasy sales line.

This rather appears to validate Michael Moore's
"stupid white men" hypothesis.

I also think that the

"I proved I was not a rascist by voting for Obama"
in 2008, so I don't have to do it again in 2012."

thinking may be of relevance.