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BornInCantaloup

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I give you the Clamcalm Poulalman map.
A busty start for what should be a rewarding game. Don't be fooled by the riches, they're meant as a sort of equalizer. Chances are you're not starting ahead (no worldbuilder actions were taken ; map hasn't been tampered).

The sight :
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The settings :
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9 teams with handpicked opponents.
It's us : Gandhi, Huayna, Lincoln, Ramesses, Darius ;
And them : Mansa, Elizabeth, Hannibal and Willem von Orange (or Wang Kon, I forgot).
(See the trends ?)

Warnings :
- It's a Large map size with Low sea level and standard number of opponents. Barbarians spawn accordingly.
Surviving the early game is a necessary evil before one can enjoy (or not) the map's development. I wouldn't blame you for restarting after an early loss, if that should happen.
- Map settings were defined with a Space victory in mind but, naturally, any form of AD play would do. A diplo win would be a real win and save a lot of time.

Tempted ? Wanna have a go ? Good luck !

If you're not tempted, I can only recommend playing BOTM 119, which has a very nice design.
 

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If somebody is annoyed by barbs and would like to play with tgw, you could use my save.
Playing something else currently so i doubt i will continue, but was curious how a great wall play would look here :)
Then i thought, why not put up that save.
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Delhi can use 3 pop settler whip.
 

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Playing this when I find some time.
Of course, it delays the first settler(s). Not sure how it compares with a Agri, Hunt, AH, Archery opening (I'm inclined to go down that route... "going down", errr... I mean in a figurative manner).
Both pigs are conveniently placed on hills, which makes it easier on the Agri, Mas, BW tech path.
I'm inclined to skip AH. We won't have copper or horse in intitial BFC and we need actual production to build the archers. Pasturing the pigs won't provide that and AH is an expensive tech. Mining the pigs and having the possibility to chop is more useful IMO.
 
@ Fippy :
Was it faster to complete the wonder naturally rather than use settler whip overflow ?
Too bad you don't have an extra warrior to scout with. That won't help choosing city locations.

Not sure what you mean there BiC, i did not have BW yet ;)
Agri, Masonry and then BW takes until turn 38 (large map costs, no commerce on food or pigs).

Turn 37 you already cross your fingers tgw doesn't get built elsewhere, delaying is no option too.

If i had only 1 try in let's say gotm i would always build tgw, Archers are quiet bad units for defending against plunder and i have seen so many stalled games cos of big barb rushes that delaying one first settler is harmless.
If you are not reloading, every single turn becomes an exhausting plan while defending against countless barbs.
 
Those barbs.. ;)
Your land quality is very good thou, floodplains heaven will be nice with pottery.
I still think 3s1w of Delhi would be a good city, picks up cows + 1 new floodplain and there's enuf to share with Delhi and gold city.
 
Oh my, brings back memories from Great Plains map played few days ago... IMM with Raging Barbs :) Got start with stone to settle on, finished it after few tens of barbs killed (3 archers defending must have, 4 welcome - worker only when final whip into finishing GW).... By 1400 BC 4 AI (from 17) dead from Barbs, including barbs controling Judaism Holy city (once Justinian city) :D
 
No even scratch ! :)

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I was thinking for a like 10 min after agc should i (SHOULD I) go AH more safe was just mine the pigs and go for archery....:aargh:
The thing is that be4 pottery we allmoust dont have :commerce:
And i know your maps BiC :mischief: if i wont get a bit of adv i just can click exit game now :) so i assumed that if theres so many ah res there have to be a horses :smug:

Well i think iam safe, barb archer attacked my war but he didnt even scratch him :rotfl:

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T61

I manage to deal with the barbs for now... lost 2 chariots. Now is time to choop and whip:whipped:
Looks promising so far, there will be a lot of use of SPI i think everybody hats each other :clap:.

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750 BC
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A little update.
AH-Pottery-BW-Writing and i stoped a :science: till academy in Cap and iam rexing.
Going preety good, 8 cities couple Lib, some Granaries good :commerce: in general... 81:science:/T without 50% boost in Capitol.

Here's couple of SS's
Core
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A new site barbs decide to invade me with 2 archers ... :). Unfortunatly only 2 stayed in base :mwaha:. So i got my 1st costal city need like 3 more.
Allso heres some sites maybe 2-3 cities depends is there any food on the ocean, which i want to settle.

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And this barb city is so .... it just makeing me sad i need to burn it down asap, but there are 3 prommoted archers :sad:.
My 1st thought was that i will wait for HC and take it with hes help but now i think that i bulid 9 chariots and just smash it :devil:.
I rly need there 2 costal cities.

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Oh yea theres a bigger problem. Darius is out of control with teching, when i meet him 1320BC i belive or sth, he allrdy had Currency. :dubious:

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Now its 750BC and he can res CS :faint:.

@BornInCantaloup what have you done to him :king:






 
1AD
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256:science:/T but maintance is killing me -139:gold: @ 100%, @ 0% only +39:gold:.
So task for now is whip courts everywhere asap i even considering choop this forest around capitol whitch i left for Oxford to get this Market.
I usually dont bulid Markets but heres a must... or maybe i just 3 pop whip it i cannot grow anyway. :think:

So far map was peace teching, Lincoln changed hes rel to Juda so that was ezy whitch rel to pick.
HC is isolated and couple of turns befor Darius and R2 stars plotting on him.
I was wondering should i sw in to hindu for 5T and get MC but... i thing he wont trade it anyway.
I will have to stop this war becouse if some1 vassal him :shake:
Ok some SS's

Core land
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Capitol
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My costal cities
Takeing this barb city was preety ezy i made little army 4axe 2 chariots but 1 archer from this barb city decide to attack Lincoln's scout and 2nd one left the city and killed my chariot right befor my attack. 4 axe vs 1 archer was preety ezy :rotfl: THE barbs.
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south part of my imperium
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I would love to have this barb city but looks like aim a bit too late, allso (i dont know is it visible) theres a 2 gold spot a bit higher - it would be great for mining inc.
Anyway i have still some place to fill.
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And tech race

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My tech path was Aste-Currency-Drama-Music
I lost Music to Darius by like half a turn if i go reserch in all my cities i would get it but this guy is teching like madman.
When i was starting Music( 5 Turns) he didnt even had Lit. What this guy did is 1T Lit and 2T Music :satan:. He had CS in 475bc i belive.
That was my bad i think :hammer2:but i just didnt though that he can :science: Lit and Music in 3T.

Plan is to get CS -Paper and duble bulb Edu i want event trying win lib vs him.
I could but theres a little problem with this map ... no marble no stone .
Only failed gold whitch i had was out of Shwedagon. I dont have MC producing welth without forges is preety bad ...
I dont know :dunno: if some1 have idea how to make :gold: in this stuation let me know :worship:

Heres save




 

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800AD time to small update
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16 cities, 639:science:/T and - 171:gold: @100%, @ 0% + 174:gold:
But now unfortunatly i have to :whipped::whipped::whipped: my imperium and get rid of HC. Its not fastest Cuirs rush but hes nowhere as far as tech race goes.
So this should be pice of cake. I was even thinking can i win space without any war but ... its not my style [pimp] i have a "need".
I just meet guys from other continent and i was shocked Liz Hannibal WvO and .... Mansa everybody tech monsters. :wow:
It was written in description but i somehow didnt noticed that.
This game starts to be rly interesting, but yea @BornInCantaloup :cooool: and hes maps :mwaha:. I hope i will win one finally.

Basicly what i was doing all the time was chooping whiping and all that stuff.
AP Temples Monasteries Forges Courts Lib Theatres and some Universities, at the end barracks and stables.
I post some SS's how does my land look like.

Core
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Coast
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South
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Tech race
Preety good like i mentioned i was even thinking can i handle this map without war.
Got some decent trades from Liz and Lincol whos turn ago decided that we are friends.
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Diplo
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This is stack of HC i lost there like 3 or 4 spies hope i will have oportunity to make revolt :trouble:
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And save if some1 wants to look.
Ok time for war now :aargh:
 

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Hi BiC

Yea it's a preety good map, like all posted by you. I hope i will manage to win this 1 :).
But iam stuck in 1200AD and dont have a time for playing right now. Maybe in couple of days i will move on with this.

Cheers !
 
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